Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Anyone who buys this tshirt in the next two weeks, 50% of the profits will be donated to the NE Ohio Group. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. This is the M.O. of Autism Speaks. Here's the shirt: http://www.autismlinkstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=137 W. -- In EOHarm , " schaferatsprynet " <schafer@...> wrote: > > > This seems to be a duplicate of their failed tactics used to take over > a Vermont fund raiser for autism earlier this year. Is this the real > message AS " speaks " to the local autism communities -- " we're taking > over, butt out. " ? > > Lenny > > > > Dear Friends of Northeast Ohio Autism Group, > > We have recently learned that Autism Speaks has scheduled an event for > autism almost identical to ours and near the same time. We would like > to clarify some information with all of you so there is no confusion. > > Cleveland Rocks Autism was developed by board members of Northeast > Ohio Autism Group. We chose to donate the proceeds from this event to > Autism Speaks, a national organization, but asked that they keep part > of the funds local to the Cleveland area. We knew that keeping funds > local were just as important to our donors as it was to us. Autism > Speaks informed us of the Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland and > verbally specified that they would donate a portion of proceeds to > them -- and we trusted this. After repeated, unsuccessful attempts to > find how much money actually stayed local, we have found that there is > no Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland after all, and has not been > for quite some time. > > In lieu of this, and the overwhelming need for more help on a local > level, the founding members of Cleveland Rocks Autism developed > Northeast Ohio Autism Group. We can guarantee you, without a doubt, > that all proceeds from our fundraising events will stay local to our > own communities. NEOAG's fundraising event for 2008 has been named > " Rock The Puzzle " in order to start new, so there is no confusion that > it is, indeed, a local event. We are an approved 501©(3) charity, so > all donations will be tax-deductible. > > Please be educated on where your donation will go, no matter who you > choose to donate to. NEOAG agrees with Autism Speaks' ongoing > dedication to research, but does not agree with the desire to compete > with others for the same cause. We simply feel that monies raised > locally should stay local. We also hope that Autism Speaks will decide > to give back to the Cleveland community, which has been so supportive > of them, with proceeds from their upcoming event. > > We hope this has clarified any confusion and if you have any > questions, please contact us -- we are wide open. > Thank you for your support and Happy Holidays! > > NORTHEAST OHIO AUTISM GROUP > nne Seaman, Lindberg, Kathy Pahr, Bergant, le > Osborne > > www.northeastohioautismgroup.org > www.rockthepuzzle.com > www.clevelandrocksautism.com > 440.488.3473 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Give me more ideas for sayings and I'll be happy to design more shirts. cindy@... This makes me ill. > > > > > > > > > This seems to be a duplicate of their failed tactics used to take over > > > a Vermont fund raiser for autism earlier this year. Is this the real > > > message AS " speaks " to the local autism communities -- " we're taking > > > over, butt out. " ? > > > > > > Lenny > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends of Northeast Ohio Autism Group, > > > > > > We have recently learned that Autism Speaks has scheduled an event for > > > autism almost identical to ours and near the same time. We would like > > > to clarify some information with all of you so there is no confusion. > > > > > > Cleveland Rocks Autism was developed by board members of Northeast > > > Ohio Autism Group. We chose to donate the proceeds from this event to > > > Autism Speaks, a national organization, but asked that they keep part > > > of the funds local to the Cleveland area. We knew that keeping funds > > > local were just as important to our donors as it was to us. Autism > > > Speaks informed us of the Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland and > > > verbally specified that they would donate a portion of proceeds to > > > them -- and we trusted this. After repeated, unsuccessful attempts to > > > find how much money actually stayed local, we have found that there is > > > no Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland after all, and has not been > > > for quite some time. > > > > > > In lieu of this, and the overwhelming need for more help on a local > > > level, the founding members of Cleveland Rocks Autism developed > > > Northeast Ohio Autism Group. We can guarantee you, without a doubt, > > > that all proceeds from our fundraising events will stay local to our > > > own communities. NEOAG's fundraising event for 2008 has been named > > > " Rock The Puzzle " in order to start new, so there is no confusion that > > > it is, indeed, a local event. We are an approved 501©(3) charity, so > > > all donations will be tax-deductible. > > > > > > Please be educated on where your donation will go, no matter who you > > > choose to donate to. NEOAG agrees with Autism Speaks' ongoing > > > dedication to research, but does not agree with the desire to compete > > > with others for the same cause. We simply feel that monies raised > > > locally should stay local. We also hope that Autism Speaks will decide > > > to give back to the Cleveland community, which has been so supportive > > > of them, with proceeds from their upcoming event. > > > > > > We hope this has clarified any confusion and if you have any > > > questions, please contact us -- we are wide open. > > > Thank you for your support and Happy Holidays! > > > > > > NORTHEAST OHIO AUTISM GROUP > > > nne Seaman, Lindberg, Kathy Pahr, Bergant, le > > > Osborne > > > > > > www.northeastohioau tismgroup. org > > > www.rockthepuzzle. com > > > www.clevelandrocksa utism.com > > > 440.488.3473 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 > Dear Friends of Northeast Ohio Autism Group, > > Cleveland Rocks Autism was developed by board members of Northeast > Ohio Autism Group. We chose to donate the proceeds from this event to > Autism Speaks, a national organization, but asked that they keep part > of the funds local to the Cleveland area. We knew that keeping funds > local were just as important to our donors as it was to us. Autism > Speaks informed us of the Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland and > verbally specified that they would donate a portion of proceeds to > them -- and we trusted this. After repeated, unsuccessful attempts to > find how much money actually stayed local, we have found that there is > no Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland after all, and has not been > for quite some time. Perhaps I'm a bit touchy about this whole topic, given what happened to me when I showed up at the Cleveland Rocks Autism benefit concert last spring at the House of Blues, with flyers about thimerosal and vaccine damage to hand out to people. But this whole thing has me very confused and skeptical. Why would the Northeast Ohio Autism Group agree to give money to Autism Speaks, with no idea beforehand how much money would go to local groups if this was such an important thing to them? And why would it take them this long—seven months—to discover that the Autism Treatment Network is no longer in existence? The whole idea of having a verbal agreement in the first place strikes me as odd but then I'm not a very trusting person I guess. Especially when it comes to trusting Autism Speaks. > > We hope this has clarified any confusion and if you have any > questions, please contact us -- we are wide open. > Thank you for your support and Happy Holidays! > > NORTHEAST OHIO AUTISM GROUP > nne Seaman, Lindberg, Kathy Pahr, Bergant, le > Osborne > > www.northeastohioautismgroup.org > www.rockthepuzzle.com > www.clevelandrocksautism.com > 440.488.3473 I guess I'm asking the wrong people. Come Monday I will call them and ask them why it took them so long to find this out. And while I'm at it I'll be sure to fill them in on what happens to people who try to hand out information about thimerosal and vaccine damage on the sidewalks of Cleveland, thanks to organizations such as Autism Speaks. Just in case they don't already know. I like the tee shirts. But maybe I'll hold off on purchasing one until after the holidays. Robin Nemeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 What happened to you, Robin? Carolyn in Toledo ....Perhaps I'm a bit touchy about this whole topic, given what happened to me when I showed up at the Cleveland Rocks Autism benefit concert last spring at the House of Blues, with flyers about thimerosal and vaccine damage to hand out to people...Robin Nemeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Didn't you hear? The AS folks beat her with pearls and tried to suffocate her with mink stoles. When she wouldn't drop they tried to poison her with Moet et Chandon and then, at the last minute, attempted to run her over in a stretch Escalade! Thank God she survived by pretending to be a board member of Merck - they backed off immediately. It was a close call. ANOTHER 90 MINUTE DELAY HERE IN CT ARTGGGGGHHHH! KS > > What happened to you, Robin? > Carolyn in Toledo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 >> Didn't you hear? The AS folks beat her with pearls and tried to > suffocate her with mink stoles. When she wouldn't drop they tried to > poison her with Moet et Chandon and then, at the last minute, attempted > to run her over in a stretch Escalade! Thank God she survived by > pretending to be a board member of Merck - they backed off > immediately. It was a close call.> > ANOTHER 90 MINUTE DELAY HERE IN CT ARTGGGGGHHHH!> > KS Lol. Well it wasn't anything quite that bad. They just tried to have me arrested was all. SOMEBODY tried to have me arrested. I assumed it was the lovely ladies of the local chapter of Autism Speaks. The problem is I went out to this Cleveland Rocks Autism benefit concert last spring armed with my thimerosal flyers (all about how thimerosal's mercury and it's in vaccines and there're people who think it causes autism and other chit), and my `autism—it's no mystery it's mercury' tee shirt, and I ran into these women who were all dressed to the nines in shiny glittery dresses, but having only recently gotten involved with the local autism groups here in Northeast Ohio I didn't know the names of any of them. And they acted kind of like as if I were armed not with thimerosal flyers but with anthrax or suicide bombs or Sarin gas, which I promise everyone I wasn't. A couple of police cars came and the police asked me to leave and I said no and they asked my husband if he couldn't maybe get me to go home and he said "well no I don't think so, she's pretty passionate about all of this", good man that he is, and so then the chief of police came and he told me it was alright if I stayed just so long as I didn't harrass anyone and I of course I wasn't harrassing anyone so that wasn't a problem. I did approach a few people who were getting out of their cars in front of the House of Blues, where the valet service was picking up their cars, and the valet service owner didn't like that very much, but that was before I realized there even was a valet service. (I thought it was just guys dropping off their wives and girlfriends at first). When it was all explained to me I agreed to stay on the sidewalk. Anyway the President of the local chapter of AS later claimed, on this local autism support forum, that nobody ever tried to have me arrested. And while I don't know the names of the women who told me I would have to leave or else face arrest, I'm pretty sure they didn't work for the House of Blues Management, unless the House of Blues hires bouncers are women in their thirties or forties who wear shiny clothes and high heels and too much makeup. After Ms. Goldberg took the opportunity on that local forum (where she'd been trying to raise money for some other event) to say that nobody ever tried to have me arrested, I went out of my way to get a copy of the Police Dept. incident report. http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemeth/HOB_incident_report.htm It's not an official police report, which is good I think because I really don't want to have a police record. It's just some record I think that the dispatchers keep, of where the police cars went and why. I went to the trouble of scanning it and posting it on my website, because it really pissed me off that somebody would say that something that happened to me never happened. Well now it turns out that it might not have been the lovely ladies of AS at all who tried to have me arrested that evening, it might have been the ladies of the Northeast Ohio Autism Group (good grief there're so many different groups and so many different acronyms…). Who apparently were the people who sponsored the event that night after all and then just gave the money to AS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Wow... sounds like a bunch of rich posers who pretend to care what's going on with our children. Maybe autism charity functions are the chic thing for the super wealthy, now? > Lol. Well it wasn't anything quite that bad. They just tried to have me > arrested was all. SOMEBODY tried to have me arrested. I assumed it was > the lovely ladies of the local chapter of Autism Speaks. The problem is > I went out to this Cleveland Rocks Autism benefit concert last spring > armed with my thimerosal flyers (all about how thimerosal's mercury and > it's in vaccines and there're people who think it causes autism and > other chit), and my `autism—it's no mystery it's > mercury' tee shirt, and I ran into these women who were all dressed > to the nines in shiny glittery dresses, but having only recently gotten > involved with the local autism groups here in Northeast Ohio I didn't > know the names of any of them. And they acted kind of like as if I were > armed not with thimerosal flyers but with anthrax or suicide bombs or > Sarin gas, which I promise everyone I wasn't. > > > > A couple of police cars came and the police asked me to leave and I said > no and they asked my husband if he couldn't maybe get me to go home and > he said " well no I don't think so, she's pretty passionate about all of > this " , good man that he is, and so then the chief of police came and he > told me it was alright if I stayed just so long as I didn't harrass > anyone and I of course I wasn't harrassing anyone so that wasn't a > problem. I did approach a few people who were getting out of their cars > in front of the House of Blues, where the valet service was picking up > their cars, and the valet service owner didn't like that very much, but > that was before I realized there even was a valet service. (I thought it > was just guys dropping off their wives and girlfriends at first). When > it was all explained to me I agreed to stay on the sidewalk. > > > > Anyway the President of the local chapter of AS later claimed, on this > local autism support forum, that nobody ever tried to have me arrested. > And while I don't know the names of the women who told me I would have > to leave or else face arrest, I'm pretty sure they didn't work for the > House of Blues Management, unless the House of Blues hires bouncers are > women in their thirties or forties who wear shiny clothes and high heels > and too much makeup. > > > > After Ms. Goldberg took the opportunity on that local forum (where > she'd been trying to raise money for some other event) to say that > nobody ever tried to have me arrested, I went out of my way to get a > copy of the Police Dept. incident report. > > > > http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemeth/HOB_incident_report.htm > > > > It's not an official police report, which is good I think because I > really don't want to have a police record. It's just some record > I think that the dispatchers keep, of where the police cars went and > why. I went to the trouble of scanning it and posting it on my website, > because it really pissed me off that somebody would say that something > that happened to me never happened. > > > > Well now it turns out that it might not have been the lovely ladies of > AS at all who tried to have me arrested that evening, it might have been > the ladies of the Northeast Ohio Autism Group (good grief there're > so many different groups and so many different acronyms…). Who > apparently were the people who sponsored the event that night after all > and then just gave the money to AS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Geez, the Ohio faction of the ladies who lunch dropped a dime on you! Maybe it would have been better if they'd attempted to assault you with pearls and pelts. At least then you could have gotten it on tape and sued their fancy, fake-philanthropic butts! > > > > Didn't you hear? The AS folks beat her with pearls and tried to > > suffocate her with mink stoles. When she wouldn't drop they tried to > > poison her with Moet et Chandon and then, at the last minute, > attempted > > to run her over in a stretch Escalade! Thank God she survived by > > pretending to be a board member of Merck - they backed off > > immediately. It was a close call. > > > > ANOTHER 90 MINUTE DELAY HERE IN CT ARTGGGGGHHHH! > > > > KS > > > > Lol. Well it wasn't anything quite that bad. They just tried to have me > arrested was all. SOMEBODY tried to have me arrested. I assumed it was > the lovely ladies of the local chapter of Autism Speaks. The problem is > I went out to this Cleveland Rocks Autism benefit concert last spring > armed with my thimerosal flyers (all about how thimerosal's mercury and > it's in vaccines and there're people who think it causes autism and > other chit), and my `autism—it's no mystery it's > mercury' tee shirt, and I ran into these women who were all dressed > to the nines in shiny glittery dresses, but having only recently gotten > involved with the local autism groups here in Northeast Ohio I didn't > know the names of any of them. And they acted kind of like as if I were > armed not with thimerosal flyers but with anthrax or suicide bombs or > Sarin gas, which I promise everyone I wasn't. > > > > A couple of police cars came and the police asked me to leave and I said > no and they asked my husband if he couldn't maybe get me to go home and > he said " well no I don't think so, she's pretty passionate about all of > this " , good man that he is, and so then the chief of police came and he > told me it was alright if I stayed just so long as I didn't harrass > anyone and I of course I wasn't harrassing anyone so that wasn't a > problem. I did approach a few people who were getting out of their cars > in front of the House of Blues, where the valet service was picking up > their cars, and the valet service owner didn't like that very much, but > that was before I realized there even was a valet service. (I thought it > was just guys dropping off their wives and girlfriends at first). When > it was all explained to me I agreed to stay on the sidewalk. > > > > Anyway the President of the local chapter of AS later claimed, on this > local autism support forum, that nobody ever tried to have me arrested. > And while I don't know the names of the women who told me I would have > to leave or else face arrest, I'm pretty sure they didn't work for the > House of Blues Management, unless the House of Blues hires bouncers are > women in their thirties or forties who wear shiny clothes and high heels > and too much makeup. > > > > After Ms. Goldberg took the opportunity on that local forum (where > she'd been trying to raise money for some other event) to say that > nobody ever tried to have me arrested, I went out of my way to get a > copy of the Police Dept. incident report. > > > > http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemeth/HOB_incident_report.htm > > > > It's not an official police report, which is good I think because I > really don't want to have a police record. It's just some record > I think that the dispatchers keep, of where the police cars went and > why. I went to the trouble of scanning it and posting it on my website, > because it really pissed me off that somebody would say that something > that happened to me never happened. > > > > Well now it turns out that it might not have been the lovely ladies of > AS at all who tried to have me arrested that evening, it might have been > the ladies of the Northeast Ohio Autism Group (good grief there're > so many different groups and so many different acronyms…). Who > apparently were the people who sponsored the event that night after all > and then just gave the money to AS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 >> Wow... sounds like a bunch of rich posers who pretend to care what's going on with our > children. Maybe autism charity functions are the chic thing for the super wealthy, now?> > Well now I don't know about the women of the Northeast Ohio Autism Group. Whether or not they've simply jumped onto what they see as the latest fad philanthropic bandwagon. I don't know anything much about them as I've never met any of them. I do know that one of the women who spoke to me outside of the House of Blues said that she herself had a child with autism. Asked me toleave and told me she had a child with autism and asked me if I could understand that. The idea being, I think, that since she had a child with autism and I didn't, I couldn't understand what she'd gone through and so she felt I think that I had no right to remain there against her wishes. I do believe she was sincere in this. In that she had a child with autism. I have to say that it's really hard for me to fathom why a parent with a child who has autism would support this organization, and yet I see it happen, even when the people supporting them seem perfectly aware of just what it is they are supporting.I don't know what motivates them. I don't know if they hope to get funds or if they have tried the alternative, biomed and nutritional sorts of treatments an they've got the tough nuts that just won't crack that I've heard about, the children who aren't really helped that much by it, or if they've just gotten to be friends with these people over many years and so that makes it hard for them to see things objectively, or if they really think I'm a lunatic in my beliefs about mercury or just very wrong and so AS is justified in wanting to shut me up, or what exactly. I left a phone message with NEOAG. Left my name and phone number and asked them to return my call. I'm curious as to why it took them so long to find out that Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland no longer exists. I'm curious as to what suddenly made them start asking questions about it, if they only recently started questioning where the money went. I'm curious as to whether or not any of them were there that night at the HOB last spring, and told me I had to leave.Robin Nemeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 >> Wow... sounds like a bunch of rich posers who pretend to care what's going on with our > children. Maybe autism charity functions are the chic thing for the super wealthy, now?> > Well now I don't know about the women of the Northeast Ohio Autism Group. Whether or not they've simply jumped onto what they see as the latest fad philanthropic bandwagon. I don't know anything much about them as I've never met any of them. I do know that one of the women who spoke to me outside of the House of Blues said that she herself had a child with autism. Asked me toleave and told me she had a child with autism and asked me if I could understand that. The idea being, I think, that since she had a child with autism and I didn't, I couldn't understand what she'd gone through and so she felt I think that I had no right to remain there against her wishes. I do believe she was sincere in this. In that she had a child with autism. I have to say that it's really hard for me to fathom why a parent with a child who has autism would support this organization, and yet I see it happen, even when the people supporting them seem perfectly aware of just what it is they are supporting.I don't know what motivates them. I don't know if they hope to get funds or if they have tried the alternative, biomed and nutritional sorts of treatments an they've got the tough nuts that just won't crack that I've heard about, the children who aren't really helped that much by it, or if they've just gotten to be friends with these people over many years and so that makes it hard for them to see things objectively, or if they really think I'm a lunatic in my beliefs about mercury or just very wrong and so AS is justified in wanting to shut me up, or what exactly. I left a phone message with NEOAG. Left my name and phone number and asked them to return my call. I'm curious as to why it took them so long to find out that Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland no longer exists. I'm curious as to what suddenly made them start asking questions about it, if they only recently started questioning where the money went. I'm curious as to whether or not any of them were there that night at the HOB last spring, and told me I had to leave.Robin Nemeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Always, always, always get any agreement in writing BEFORE the event, no matter how good of friends/foes the various orgs are. Always. Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Always, always, always get any agreement in writing BEFORE the event, no matter how good of friends/foes the various orgs are. Always. Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 When I visualized it, the cops were on horses. " Mister, can't you git the little woman back to the ranch? " We still have horse patrols in NWO. Carolyn in Toledo ps the link to the report works now. They just tried to have me arrested was all... A couple of police cars came and the police asked me to leave and I said no and they asked my husband if he couldn't maybe get me to go home and he said " well no I don't think so, she's pretty passionate about all of this " , good man that he is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I left a phone message with them at Northeast Ohio Autism Group, a couple of days ago. No one's gotten back to me, but it's the holidays. I'll see if I can contact them by email after the holidays if I don't hear back. I just want to know why it took them seven months to find out that there's no Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 It needs to be something that will rightfully scare the living daylights out of people. How about: " Its not Autism, its Vaccinosis YOU could be next! " That might help lose some of that " its not us, its them " mentality. Gayatri PS: I understand your being ill. Makes me want to throw up too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to be a duplicate of their failed tactics used to take over > > > > > a Vermont fund raiser for autism earlier this year. Is this the real > > > > > message AS " speaks " to the local autism communities -- " we're taking > > > > > over, butt out. " ? > > > > > > > > > > Lenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends of Northeast Ohio Autism Group, > > > > > > > > > > We have recently learned that Autism Speaks has scheduled an event for > > > > > autism almost identical to ours and near the same time. We would like > > > > > to clarify some information with all of you so there is no confusion. > > > > > > > > > > Cleveland Rocks Autism was developed by board members of Northeast > > > > > Ohio Autism Group. We chose to donate the proceeds from this event to > > > > > Autism Speaks, a national organization, but asked that they keep part > > > > > of the funds local to the Cleveland area. We knew that keeping funds > > > > > local were just as important to our donors as it was to us. Autism > > > > > Speaks informed us of the Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland and > > > > > verbally specified that they would donate a portion of proceeds to > > > > > them -- and we trusted this. After repeated, unsuccessful attempts to > > > > > find how much money actually stayed local, we have found that there is > > > > > no Autism Treatment Network in Cleveland after all, and has not been > > > > > for quite some time. > > > > > > > > > > In lieu of this, and the overwhelming need for more help on a local > > > > > level, the founding members of Cleveland Rocks Autism developed > > > > > Northeast Ohio Autism Group. We can guarantee you, without a doubt, > > > > > that all proceeds from our fundraising events will stay local to our > > > > > own communities. NEOAG's fundraising event for 2008 has been named > > > > > " Rock The Puzzle " in order to start new, so there is no confusion that > > > > > it is, indeed, a local event. We are an approved 501©(3) charity, so > > > > > all donations will be tax-deductible. > > > > > > > > > > Please be educated on where your donation will go, no matter who you > > > > > choose to donate to. NEOAG agrees with Autism Speaks' ongoing > > > > > dedication to research, but does not agree with the desire to compete > > > > > with others for the same cause. We simply feel that monies raised > > > > > locally should stay local. We also hope that Autism Speaks will decide > > > > > to give back to the Cleveland community, which has been so supportive > > > > > of them, with proceeds from their upcoming event. > > > > > > > > > > We hope this has clarified any confusion and if you have any > > > > > questions, please contact us -- we are wide open. > > > > > Thank you for your support and Happy Holidays! > > > > > > > > > > NORTHEAST OHIO AUTISM GROUP > > > > > nne Seaman, Lindberg, Kathy Pahr, Bergant, le > > > > > Osborne > > > > > > > > > > www.northeastohioau tismgroup. org > > > > > www.rockthepuzzle. com > > > > > www.clevelandrocksa utism.com > > > > > 440.488.3473 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > #ygrp-mkp{ > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px > 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > > > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px > 0px;} > > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > > margin-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > > padding:0 0;} > > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > > --> > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > > font-family:Arial;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > > --> > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, > sans-serif;} > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > clean, sans-serif;} > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > > #ygrp-text{ > > font-family:Georgia; > > } > > #ygrp-text p{ > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > font-family:Arial; > > clear:both;} > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > padding:0 1px;} > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > clear:both;margin:25px > 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > > #ygrp-grft{ > > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > > #ygrp-ft{ > > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > > padding:5px 0; > > } > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > padding-bottom:10px;} > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > > } > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > font-weight:bold;} > > #ygrp-vital a{ > > text-decoration:none;} > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > text-decoration:underline;} > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > padding:8px 0;} > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > margin:0;} > > o{font-size:0;} > > .MsoNormal{ > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > font-size:120%;} > > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > > .replbq{margin:4;} > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Search. > http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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