Re: Kombuchas euphoric effect?

[Guest guest]

IMHO it's probably more to do with placebo effect or just plain sugar

fix. But that's just MHO. Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

it, no other reason.

Jim

>

> I keep wondering of this effect as well. IMO, may be associated with

> lowering blood pressure. ... immediate bowel pains (not terrible) and

> sometimes a back ache (I can get both with my IBD). Anybody else get

these?

>

....

>

[Guest guest]

IMHO it's probably more to do with placebo effect or just plain sugar

fix. But that's just MHO. Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

it, no other reason.

Jim

>

> I keep wondering of this effect as well. IMO, may be associated with

> lowering blood pressure. ... immediate bowel pains (not terrible) and

> sometimes a back ache (I can get both with my IBD). Anybody else get

these?

>

....

>

[Guest guest]

Jim do you have more colds or is your body throwing out mucous as a detox?

Gayla

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Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

aeranch@...

----- Original Message -----

From: " Jim " <jim.ferments@...>

.. Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

> I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

> years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

> it, no other reason.

>

> Jim

[Guest guest]

Jim do you have more colds or is your body throwing out mucous as a detox?

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

aeranch@...

----- Original Message -----

From: " Jim " <jim.ferments@...>

.. Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

> I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

> years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

> it, no other reason.

>

> Jim

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I keep wondering of this effect as well. IMO, may be associated

with

> > lowering blood pressure. ... immediate bowel pains (not terrible)

and

> > sometimes a back ache (I can get both with my IBD). Anybody else

get

> these?

> >

> ...

> >My wife and I have been drinking Kombucha for 9 months, and don't

know how we got along without it. euphoric? yes......attitude

improvement ?....yes...we had been working a job together co-managers

60-75 hours aweek.........dead tired......clinically exhausted.....no

quality time to spend with kids or grandkids.........high blood

pressure W/ medication.........expensive pills in order to sleep at

night........but it is different now, and THE ONLY CHANGE WE HAVE

MADE DURING THIS TIME FRAME IS WE STARTED DRINKING KOMBUCHA!!!!!

We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is saving us

$$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on, now I can't stand the

taste of those syrupy carbonated beverages........no blood pressure

meds......no sleeping pills...........the Drs we very rarely see

cannot believe that at 68 and 63 my wife and I are not on any

meds!!!!! Nothing.....nada.......zilch......Oh well chalk up another

satisfied Kombucha drinker.........could tell you a lot more

experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I keep wondering of this effect as well. IMO, may be associated

with

> > lowering blood pressure. ... immediate bowel pains (not terrible)

and

> > sometimes a back ache (I can get both with my IBD). Anybody else

get

> these?

> >

> ...

> >My wife and I have been drinking Kombucha for 9 months, and don't

know how we got along without it. euphoric? yes......attitude

improvement ?....yes...we had been working a job together co-managers

60-75 hours aweek.........dead tired......clinically exhausted.....no

quality time to spend with kids or grandkids.........high blood

pressure W/ medication.........expensive pills in order to sleep at

night........but it is different now, and THE ONLY CHANGE WE HAVE

MADE DURING THIS TIME FRAME IS WE STARTED DRINKING KOMBUCHA!!!!!

We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is saving us

$$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on, now I can't stand the

taste of those syrupy carbonated beverages........no blood pressure

meds......no sleeping pills...........the Drs we very rarely see

cannot believe that at 68 and 63 my wife and I are not on any

meds!!!!! Nothing.....nada.......zilch......Oh well chalk up another

satisfied Kombucha drinker.........could tell you a lot more

experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

>

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In message <fgfn8p+bakqeGroups> you wrote:

> ........could tell you a lot more

> experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

> take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

>

> Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

Ahhh, but Lonnie and (I take it it is Lonnie with the Irish gift of the

gab who doing the talking -) .....?

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In message <fgfn8p+bakqeGroups> you wrote:

> ........could tell you a lot more

> experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

> take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

>

> Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

Ahhh, but Lonnie and (I take it it is Lonnie with the Irish gift of the

gab who doing the talking -) .....?

Your input is wonderful, your style inimitable and so entertaining.

Please keep your input coming. There is plenty of space for you on this

forum.

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In message <fgfn8p+bakqeGroups> you wrote:

> ........could tell you a lot more

> experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

> take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

>

> Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

Ahhh, but Lonnie and (I take it it is Lonnie with the Irish gift of the

gab who doing the talking -) .....?

Your input is wonderful, your style inimitable and so entertaining.

Please keep your input coming. There is plenty of space for you on this

forum.

You are much appreciated!

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Lonnie/:

Could you please give some details on the external applications - would be

interesting to learn more?

Thank you!

could tell you a lot more

experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

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Could you please give some details on the external applications - would be

interesting to learn more?

Thank you!

could tell you a lot more

experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in line

Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

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No, they are definitely colds, you know when you get that itchy feeling at the

back of your

throat and the roughens in your chest. But I have to say they don't really take

hold and

make me ill. I just find it strange that I get more.

Jim

>

> Jim do you have more colds or is your body throwing out mucous as a detox?

> Gayla

> Always Enough Ranch

> Acampo, California

> http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

> aeranch@...

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Jim " <jim.ferments@...>

>

> . Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

> > I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

> > years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

> > it, no other reason.

> >

> > Jim

>

[Guest guest]

No, they are definitely colds, you know when you get that itchy feeling at the

back of your

throat and the roughens in your chest. But I have to say they don't really take

hold and

make me ill. I just find it strange that I get more.

Jim

>

> Jim do you have more colds or is your body throwing out mucous as a detox?

> Gayla

> Always Enough Ranch

> Acampo, California

> http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

> aeranch@...

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Jim " <jim.ferments@...>

>

> . Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

> > I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

> > years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

> > it, no other reason.

> >

> > Jim

>

[Guest guest]

....

>...

>

> We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is saving us

> $$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

> fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on,...

Ah, I think giving up Cola was probably the best thing you did. I've never liked

fizzy pop. So

perhaps what people are experiencing is getting better after giving up that

commercial

rubbish. Don't get me wrong I love my KT. I just get a bit nervous when I hear

so much

exaggeration about a things qualities. If only because and exaggerated mind

towards and

object usually ends up flipping the other way to aversion. It's so hard trusting

what our mind

throws at us, it's our biggest deceiver we can't take it too seriously. Anyway

there's worse

things we could drink so don't take me too seriously either. lol.

Jim

[Guest guest]

That is why I am drinking it, it's a good replacement for soda. If it's good

for me to boot, then that's just great!

Jim <jim.ferments@...> wrote: IMHO it's probably more to do with

placebo effect or just plain sugar

fix. But that's just MHO. Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

it, no other reason.

Jim

>

> I keep wondering of this effect as well. IMO, may be associated with

> lowering blood pressure. ... immediate bowel pains (not terrible) and

> sometimes a back ache (I can get both with my IBD). Anybody else get

these?

>

....

>

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That is why I am drinking it, it's a good replacement for soda. If it's good

for me to boot, then that's just great!

Jim <jim.ferments@...> wrote: IMHO it's probably more to do with

placebo effect or just plain sugar

fix. But that's just MHO. Personally I don't get any effect, in fact

I've had more colds since I started drinking KT than in the three

years before having just kefir. I'll still drink the KT because I like

it, no other reason.

Jim

>

> I keep wondering of this effect as well. IMO, may be associated with

> lowering blood pressure. ... immediate bowel pains (not terrible) and

> sometimes a back ache (I can get both with my IBD). Anybody else get

these?

>

....

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> ...

> >...

> >

> > We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is

saving us

> > $$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

> > fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on,...

>

> Ah, I think giving up Cola was probably the best thing you did.

I've never liked fizzy pop. So

> perhaps what people are experiencing is getting better after giving

up that commercial

> rubbish. Don't get me wrong I love my KT. I just get a bit nervous

when I hear so much

> exaggeration about a things qualities. If only because and

exaggerated mind towards and

> object usually ends up flipping the other way to aversion. It's so

hard trusting what our mind

> throws at us, it's our biggest deceiver we can't take it too

seriously. Anyway there's worse

> things we could drink so don't take me too seriously either. lol.

>

> Jim

>

Jim...........you were definitely right about giving up commercial

soda as being a good thing.......however we did not give it up til

after about 3 months on KT........but long before we gave it

up......I was already sleeping without pills.......my wife's achey

joints that kept her tossing and turning all night to shift her

weight off the hurting hip........that was all gone.......she was

actually the first to notice KT improvement........soon other areas

began to be affected and improved......#1- My attitude!! no doubt

because of drug free sleep and dog tiredness that saddled us down.

#2-I had to check my blood pressure regularly as my Dr at the time

could not get it regulated....racing pulse....elevated heart beat and

the general lousy feeling of high BP.........he doesn't have to worry

about it now Me and Kombucha have taken care of it (incidentally my

84 yr old step mom had same identical results from the KT she got off

of BP meds she had been on for years!!!

#3- ENERGY....ENERGY...ENERGY that our fatigue ridden bodies had long

since forgotten about...RETURNED..........Oh yeah I get excited

talking about KT, and while some may appear to exaggerate their

claims I have nothing to gain by that as I am not selling anything,

only enjoy sharing with people the wonderful things that have

directly happened to us as a result of drinking Kombucha!!

I cannot understand why anyone would not want something as good, as

effective and as inexpensive as KT!!

KOmbucha forever~~~Lonnie

[Guest guest]

>

> ...

> >...

> >

> > We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is

saving us

> > $$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

> > fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on,...

>

> Ah, I think giving up Cola was probably the best thing you did.

I've never liked fizzy pop. So

> perhaps what people are experiencing is getting better after giving

up that commercial

> rubbish. Don't get me wrong I love my KT. I just get a bit nervous

when I hear so much

> exaggeration about a things qualities. If only because and

exaggerated mind towards and

> object usually ends up flipping the other way to aversion. It's so

hard trusting what our mind

> throws at us, it's our biggest deceiver we can't take it too

seriously. Anyway there's worse

> things we could drink so don't take me too seriously either. lol.

>

> Jim

>

Jim...........you were definitely right about giving up commercial

soda as being a good thing.......however we did not give it up til

after about 3 months on KT........but long before we gave it

up......I was already sleeping without pills.......my wife's achey

joints that kept her tossing and turning all night to shift her

weight off the hurting hip........that was all gone.......she was

actually the first to notice KT improvement........soon other areas

began to be affected and improved......#1- My attitude!! no doubt

because of drug free sleep and dog tiredness that saddled us down.

#2-I had to check my blood pressure regularly as my Dr at the time

could not get it regulated....racing pulse....elevated heart beat and

the general lousy feeling of high BP.........he doesn't have to worry

about it now Me and Kombucha have taken care of it (incidentally my

84 yr old step mom had same identical results from the KT she got off

of BP meds she had been on for years!!!

#3- ENERGY....ENERGY...ENERGY that our fatigue ridden bodies had long

since forgotten about...RETURNED..........Oh yeah I get excited

talking about KT, and while some may appear to exaggerate their

claims I have nothing to gain by that as I am not selling anything,

only enjoy sharing with people the wonderful things that have

directly happened to us as a result of drinking Kombucha!!

I cannot understand why anyone would not want something as good, as

effective and as inexpensive as KT!!

KOmbucha forever~~~Lonnie

[Guest guest]

> > ........could tell you a lot more

> > experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate

to

> > take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> > learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> > folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in

line

> >

> > Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

>

> Ahhh, but Lonnie and (I take it it is Lonnie with the Irish

gift of the

> gab who doing the talking -) .....?

>

> Your input is wonderful, your style inimitable and so entertaining.

> Please keep your input coming. There is plenty of space for you on

this

> forum.

>

> You are much appreciated!

>

> Margret UK, the English part ..... :-))

> --

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>

> Be Cheerful. Of all the things you wear, your expression is most

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>

Thank you Margaret, and yes it is I, Lonnie with said gift of gab,

but we can but speak of the things which we have seen and heard and

experienced........Yeah Kombucha

[Guest guest]

> > ........could tell you a lot more

> > experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate

to

> > take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> > learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> > folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in

line

> >

> > Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

>

> Ahhh, but Lonnie and (I take it it is Lonnie with the Irish

gift of the

> gab who doing the talking -) .....?

>

> Your input is wonderful, your style inimitable and so entertaining.

> Please keep your input coming. There is plenty of space for you on

this

> forum.

>

> You are much appreciated!

>

> Margret UK, the English part ..... :-))

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>

> Be Cheerful. Of all the things you wear, your expression is most

important

>

Thank you Margaret, and yes it is I, Lonnie with said gift of gab,

but we can but speak of the things which we have seen and heard and

experienced........Yeah Kombucha

[Guest guest]

>

> Lonnie/:

>

> Could you please give some details on the external applications -

would be interesting to learn more?

> Thank you!

>

I will be glad to share a few things w/ you re: external

application of KT........just yesterday my wife was cooking peanut

brittle candy on top of the stove, had just taken pot off to pour up

in pans and some of the candy spilled over onto her thumb-HOT CANDY

STILL COOKING WHILE IT SAT ON HER THUMB......I ran and got a small

bottle of cut up scobies that I have place around the house for

emergencies..........she quickly dipped her whole thumb down in the

jar swished it around a few seconds.....INSTANTLY it quit burning and

there is no blister today or even any tenderness at all on the thumb,

and believe me from years of making this candy and having hot candy

splashed on my hands, that is quite miraculous!!!

Secondly, when I strain my tea for bottling, I use unbleached coffee

filters, to catch all the yeasties, and ooglies, when the fresh KT is

draining into the jars and finally gets clogged up I pinch the

corners of the filter together, squeeze out remaining tea and then

twist the coffee filters together and put them in a jar..........I

use these filters as a face massage after I shave (it's great for

relieving razor burn), facial blemishes, when your skin is chaffed or

galded, nicks or cuts or scrapes you name it KT helps it.

Thirdly, I have given cut up scoby pieces to people all around our

town,and they have reported putting them on warts and boils, only to

see them dry up and heal. But one of the most outstanding stories was

a lady we know who has a ranch here and one of her horses stepped on

the calf of her leg and greatly damaged it, she showed us the ugly

raw oozing sore that her Dr had not been able to do anything with. In

fact it was getting so bad he told her she might lose her leg!!! Our

pastor's wife told her she wanted her to try thses scobies I had

given to her and just about anyone else who will take them A week

or so later she came by and was ecstatic that the wound which the

doctor's had never been able to stop draining, had dried up after 2

or 3 days with continual scoby packing!!! Plus she said that in the

mean time she had discovered an open wound on the leg of one of her

horses. She said well if it worked for me it should work for her

horse. She put scobies on the wound and it dried up in 24 hours.

Needless to say we have converted her to some alternative treatment.

We all know Kombucha is not a " cure all " and we don't even presume

that it is, but I can assure you it is a wonderful friend and

companion to us, for we have witnessed first hand what it can do.

I do not hesitate to recommend it to anyone, as we have friends and

family in Oklahoma,Oregon, and Arizona who can attest to many other

similar claims as I have just mentioned.

Kombucha forever~~~~~~~~Lonnie

>

> could tell you a lot more

> experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

> take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in

line

>

> Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

>

>

>

> ?

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>

> Could you please give some details on the external applications -

would be interesting to learn more?

> Thank you!

>

I will be glad to share a few things w/ you re: external

application of KT........just yesterday my wife was cooking peanut

brittle candy on top of the stove, had just taken pot off to pour up

in pans and some of the candy spilled over onto her thumb-HOT CANDY

STILL COOKING WHILE IT SAT ON HER THUMB......I ran and got a small

bottle of cut up scobies that I have place around the house for

emergencies..........she quickly dipped her whole thumb down in the

jar swished it around a few seconds.....INSTANTLY it quit burning and

there is no blister today or even any tenderness at all on the thumb,

and believe me from years of making this candy and having hot candy

splashed on my hands, that is quite miraculous!!!

Secondly, when I strain my tea for bottling, I use unbleached coffee

filters, to catch all the yeasties, and ooglies, when the fresh KT is

draining into the jars and finally gets clogged up I pinch the

corners of the filter together, squeeze out remaining tea and then

twist the coffee filters together and put them in a jar..........I

use these filters as a face massage after I shave (it's great for

relieving razor burn), facial blemishes, when your skin is chaffed or

galded, nicks or cuts or scrapes you name it KT helps it.

Thirdly, I have given cut up scoby pieces to people all around our

town,and they have reported putting them on warts and boils, only to

see them dry up and heal. But one of the most outstanding stories was

a lady we know who has a ranch here and one of her horses stepped on

the calf of her leg and greatly damaged it, she showed us the ugly

raw oozing sore that her Dr had not been able to do anything with. In

fact it was getting so bad he told her she might lose her leg!!! Our

pastor's wife told her she wanted her to try thses scobies I had

given to her and just about anyone else who will take them A week

or so later she came by and was ecstatic that the wound which the

doctor's had never been able to stop draining, had dried up after 2

or 3 days with continual scoby packing!!! Plus she said that in the

mean time she had discovered an open wound on the leg of one of her

horses. She said well if it worked for me it should work for her

horse. She put scobies on the wound and it dried up in 24 hours.

Needless to say we have converted her to some alternative treatment.

We all know Kombucha is not a " cure all " and we don't even presume

that it is, but I can assure you it is a wonderful friend and

companion to us, for we have witnessed first hand what it can do.

I do not hesitate to recommend it to anyone, as we have friends and

family in Oklahoma,Oregon, and Arizona who can attest to many other

similar claims as I have just mentioned.

Kombucha forever~~~~~~~~Lonnie

>

> could tell you a lot more

> experiences with the scoby pieces applied externally but I hate to

> take up any more of this wonderful forum space..........we have

> learned so much from this list........Thanks to all you wonderful

> folks who contribute and to Bev and co. for keeping us all in

line

>

> Kombucha forever~~~~Lonnie and

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lonnie,

I'm sure you're right, I have to admit that I don't have any achy joints now but

I put that

down to getting back on my bike. I suppose I was pretty fit to start with so

didn't really

notice much difference. I really love my KT though and I am sure that drinking

more green

and black tea with the added benefits of the fermentation is really a benefit.

I've just

posted pix of the glass of KT champagne supernova that I'm drinking at the

moment. I

should have put it in a flute, but I think the old Grolsch bottle steered my

hand to a beer

glass. I wish you could taste it. I'm very pleased with it indeed. : -)

Oh, it seems they need approving. Oh well, I'll put them here:

http://tinyurl.com/yox4ko

http://tinyurl.com/2d3jkg

Jim

> >

> > ...

> > >...

> > >

> > > We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is

> saving us

> > > $$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

> > > fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on,...

> >

> > Ah, I think giving up Cola was probably the best thing you did.

> I've never liked fizzy pop. So

> > perhaps what people are experiencing is getting better after giving

> up that commercial

> > rubbish. Don't get me wrong I love my KT. I just get a bit nervous

> when I hear so much

> > exaggeration about a things qualities. If only because and

> exaggerated mind towards and

> > object usually ends up flipping the other way to aversion. It's so

> hard trusting what our mind

> > throws at us, it's our biggest deceiver we can't take it too

> seriously. Anyway there's worse

> > things we could drink so don't take me too seriously either. lol.

> >

> > Jim

> >

>

> Jim...........you were definitely right about giving up commercial

> soda as being a good thing.......however we did not give it up til

> after about 3 months on KT........but long before we gave it

> up......I was already sleeping without pills.......my wife's achey

> joints that kept her tossing and turning all night to shift her

> weight off the hurting hip........that was all gone.......she was

> actually the first to notice KT improvement........soon other areas

> began to be affected and improved......#1- My attitude!! no doubt

> because of drug free sleep and dog tiredness that saddled us down.

> #2-I had to check my blood pressure regularly as my Dr at the time

> could not get it regulated....racing pulse....elevated heart beat and

> the general lousy feeling of high BP.........he doesn't have to worry

> about it now Me and Kombucha have taken care of it (incidentally my

> 84 yr old step mom had same identical results from the KT she got off

> of BP meds she had been on for years!!!

> #3- ENERGY....ENERGY...ENERGY that our fatigue ridden bodies had long

> since forgotten about...RETURNED..........Oh yeah I get excited

> talking about KT, and while some may appear to exaggerate their

> claims I have nothing to gain by that as I am not selling anything,

> only enjoy sharing with people the wonderful things that have

> directly happened to us as a result of drinking Kombucha!!

>

> I cannot understand why anyone would not want something as good, as

> effective and as inexpensive as KT!!

>

> KOmbucha forever~~~Lonnie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lonnie,

I'm sure you're right, I have to admit that I don't have any achy joints now but

I put that

down to getting back on my bike. I suppose I was pretty fit to start with so

didn't really

notice much difference. I really love my KT though and I am sure that drinking

more green

and black tea with the added benefits of the fermentation is really a benefit.

I've just

posted pix of the glass of KT champagne supernova that I'm drinking at the

moment. I

should have put it in a flute, but I think the old Grolsch bottle steered my

hand to a beer

glass. I wish you could taste it. I'm very pleased with it indeed. : -)

Oh, it seems they need approving. Oh well, I'll put them here:

http://tinyurl.com/yox4ko

http://tinyurl.com/2d3jkg

Jim

> >

> > ...

> > >...

> > >

> > > We both feel better than we have felt in years........it is

> saving us

> > > $$$ as some of our tastes have changed, we were spending a small

> > > fortune on Pepsi Cola that we were hooked on,...

> >

> > Ah, I think giving up Cola was probably the best thing you did.

> I've never liked fizzy pop. So

> > perhaps what people are experiencing is getting better after giving

> up that commercial

> > rubbish. Don't get me wrong I love my KT. I just get a bit nervous

> when I hear so much

> > exaggeration about a things qualities. If only because and

> exaggerated mind towards and

> > object usually ends up flipping the other way to aversion. It's so

> hard trusting what our mind

> > throws at us, it's our biggest deceiver we can't take it too

> seriously. Anyway there's worse

> > things we could drink so don't take me too seriously either. lol.

> >

> > Jim

> >

>

> Jim...........you were definitely right about giving up commercial

> soda as being a good thing.......however we did not give it up til

> after about 3 months on KT........but long before we gave it

> up......I was already sleeping without pills.......my wife's achey

> joints that kept her tossing and turning all night to shift her

> weight off the hurting hip........that was all gone.......she was

> actually the first to notice KT improvement........soon other areas

> began to be affected and improved......#1- My attitude!! no doubt

> because of drug free sleep and dog tiredness that saddled us down.

> #2-I had to check my blood pressure regularly as my Dr at the time

> could not get it regulated....racing pulse....elevated heart beat and

> the general lousy feeling of high BP.........he doesn't have to worry

> about it now Me and Kombucha have taken care of it (incidentally my

> 84 yr old step mom had same identical results from the KT she got off

> of BP meds she had been on for years!!!

> #3- ENERGY....ENERGY...ENERGY that our fatigue ridden bodies had long

> since forgotten about...RETURNED..........Oh yeah I get excited

> talking about KT, and while some may appear to exaggerate their

> claims I have nothing to gain by that as I am not selling anything,

> only enjoy sharing with people the wonderful things that have

> directly happened to us as a result of drinking Kombucha!!

>

> I cannot understand why anyone would not want something as good, as

> effective and as inexpensive as KT!!

>

> KOmbucha forever~~~Lonnie

>

[Guest guest]

Lonnie....I so agree with you!

My uncontrolled BP has also normalized as has my sleep.

I also stopped drinking both Mountain Dew and coffee. I didn't give it

up...I just no longer had the craving!

I occasionally have a coffee, just as I occasionally have ice cream, because

it is tastey...not just to get going in the a.m.

My energy, too, is higher and I am accomplishing much more any given day.

I like to think it is a combination of the detox abilities of the G. acids

and the probiotic effect of the critters.

That's my story,and I'm sticking to it!

Happy brewing and imbibing!!

Gayle