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> My opinion is that the gluconic acid may be suffering. Early last

year I

> requested those that were doing cold brewing send me a sample and I

would

> have it tested (for gluconic acid). A few people replied but no one

sent me

> a sample.

Hi there all....

Well, unless I can rig a " hothouse " of some type for my brew jars I

will be trying to brew at 60 degrees very soon, now.

Gayle

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Consistent temperatures under 70F (21.3C)

With several generations that have produced consistent mushrooms and " good

" taste. You be the judge of that.

The idea is to see if temperatures in the 50-70 range could produce a real

kombucha (acetic acid, gluconic acid, fructose) and a SCOBY. present

research seems to indicate that it would not, hence the test. I would only

be tested for gluconic acid.

Peace

Ed Kasper LAc. & family

www.HappyHerbalist.com

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Re: First KT batch

Posted by: " zoe w " ilovegrafix@... ilovegrafix

Mon Oct 1, 2007 4:24 pm (PST)

Ed, what is your criteria for a " cold ferment " ? In other words

how cold is cold for this experiment?

zoe

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Consistent temperatures under 70F (21.3C)

With several generations that have produced consistent mushrooms and " good

" taste. You be the judge of that.

The idea is to see if temperatures in the 50-70 range could produce a real

kombucha (acetic acid, gluconic acid, fructose) and a SCOBY. present

research seems to indicate that it would not, hence the test. I would only

be tested for gluconic acid.

Peace

Ed Kasper LAc. & family

www.HappyHerbalist.com

...........................................

Re: First KT batch

Posted by: " zoe w " ilovegrafix@... ilovegrafix

Mon Oct 1, 2007 4:24 pm (PST)

Ed, what is your criteria for a " cold ferment " ? In other words

how cold is cold for this experiment?

zoe

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Yeah, the cooler does have a spigot at the bottom. So, I can just put a piece

of my SCOBY in the 5 gallon bucket full of sweet tea and keep the rest of the KT

in the one gallon jar for a hotel, right?

Kim

Posted by: " zoe w " ilovegrafix@... ilovegrafix

Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:31 am (PST)

<Practically speaking your continuous brew pot needs to have a spigot at the

bottom.- This is how you draw off your 20% without disturbing the scoby.

Im not familiar with your coleman cooler - does it have a spigot? If Not could

you install one?

Five gallons would be the perfect size for you. I am alone here so 2.5 gallons

works well for me.

<snip>

O Wait, I think I misread your post. You are talking about 20% starter- where

did that come from? I don't recall any

instructions about 20% starter, that would be ridiculous on a 5 gallon

container. Simple Pour about 16 oz of starter over the scoby

to keep the mold out. You don't need the starter for the brew if you have a

scoby. The starter is there to protect the scoby from mold.

If you have no scoby - Then you need the starter and the more the better. A

scoby will eventually form, but it takes a long time this way.

If you don't have enough starter for the scoby then use some pasteurized

vinegar.

zoe

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Yeah, the cooler does have a spigot at the bottom. So, I can just put a piece

of my SCOBY in the 5 gallon bucket full of sweet tea and keep the rest of the KT

in the one gallon jar for a hotel, right?

Kim

Posted by: " zoe w " ilovegrafix@... ilovegrafix

Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:31 am (PST)

<Practically speaking your continuous brew pot needs to have a spigot at the

bottom.- This is how you draw off your 20% without disturbing the scoby.

Im not familiar with your coleman cooler - does it have a spigot? If Not could

you install one?

Five gallons would be the perfect size for you. I am alone here so 2.5 gallons

works well for me.

<snip>

O Wait, I think I misread your post. You are talking about 20% starter- where

did that come from? I don't recall any

instructions about 20% starter, that would be ridiculous on a 5 gallon

container. Simple Pour about 16 oz of starter over the scoby

to keep the mold out. You don't need the starter for the brew if you have a

scoby. The starter is there to protect the scoby from mold.

If you have no scoby - Then you need the starter and the more the better. A

scoby will eventually form, but it takes a long time this way.

If you don't have enough starter for the scoby then use some pasteurized

vinegar.

zoe

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Dont forget to put some finished KT or Vinegar over the Scoby, but yes

thats how you do it.

zoe

> Yeah, the cooler does have a spigot at the bottom. So, I can just

> put a piece of my SCOBY in the 5 gallon bucket full of sweet tea and

> keep the rest of the KT in the one gallon jar for a hotel, right?

> Kim

> Posted by: " zoe w " ilovegrafix@... ilovegrafix

> Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:31 am (PST)

> <Practically speaking your continuous brew pot needs to have a

> spigot at the bottom.- This is how you draw off your 20% without disturbing

the scoby.

> Im not familiar with your coleman cooler - does it have a spigot? If Not could

you install one?

> Five gallons would be the perfect size for you. I am alone here so 2.5 gallons

works well for me.

> <snip>

> O Wait, I think I misread your post. You are talking about 20%

> starter- where did that come from? I don't recall any

> instructions about 20% starter, that would be ridiculous on a 5

> gallon container. Simple Pour about 16 oz of starter over the scoby

> to keep the mold out. You don't need the starter for the brew if

> you have a scoby. The starter is there to protect the scoby from mold.

> If you have no scoby - Then you need the starter and the more the

> better. A scoby will eventually form, but it takes a long time this way.

> If you don't have enough starter for the scoby then use some pasteurized

vinegar.

> zoe

>

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Dont forget to put some finished KT or Vinegar over the Scoby, but yes

thats how you do it.

zoe

> Yeah, the cooler does have a spigot at the bottom. So, I can just

> put a piece of my SCOBY in the 5 gallon bucket full of sweet tea and

> keep the rest of the KT in the one gallon jar for a hotel, right?

> Kim

> Posted by: " zoe w " ilovegrafix@... ilovegrafix

> Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:31 am (PST)

> <Practically speaking your continuous brew pot needs to have a

> spigot at the bottom.- This is how you draw off your 20% without disturbing

the scoby.

> Im not familiar with your coleman cooler - does it have a spigot? If Not could

you install one?

> Five gallons would be the perfect size for you. I am alone here so 2.5 gallons

works well for me.

> <snip>

> O Wait, I think I misread your post. You are talking about 20%

> starter- where did that come from? I don't recall any

> instructions about 20% starter, that would be ridiculous on a 5

> gallon container. Simple Pour about 16 oz of starter over the scoby

> to keep the mold out. You don't need the starter for the brew if

> you have a scoby. The starter is there to protect the scoby from mold.

> If you have no scoby - Then you need the starter and the more the

> better. A scoby will eventually form, but it takes a long time this way.

> If you don't have enough starter for the scoby then use some pasteurized

vinegar.

> zoe

>

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