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Thanks for the information. I have a couple more questions. Have

you had any problems with infections at the cut site? Also when you

go in to have them replaced do they place the new pellets in the

same cut site or is a new cut made? Also how much of a scar is there

after the cut heals? Thanks you for the info. I am on androgel

right now after androderm did nothing for me. The implants may be

something I will consider if the gel does not work for me.

> > I was wondering is anyone in this group uses the underskin

> > implant/pellet for t replacment. Sounds interesting to me

because

> > you would not have to worry about remembering to take a shot put

on

> > a patch or rub gel on. If anyone uses this form of T

replacement I

> > would like to hear how you like it. Also I just stared using

> > androgel. Was on androderm but my T level acually went down

while

> > on the patch. From those who use androgel just wondering how it

has

> > worked for you and what I should watch out for. Thanks

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Thanks alot for you information. Im am going to see what androgel

does for me but the implants sound like a good option.

> > > > I was wondering is anyone in this group uses the underskin

> > > > implant/pellet for t replacment. Sounds interesting to me

> > because

> > > > you would not have to worry about remembering to take a shot

> put

> > on

> > > > a patch or rub gel on. If anyone uses this form of T

> > replacement I

> > > > would like to hear how you like it. Also I just stared using

> > > > androgel. Was on androderm but my T level acually went down

> > while

> > > > on the patch. From those who use androgel just wondering how

it

> > has

> > > > worked for you and what I should watch out for. Thanks

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I had five 200 mg pellets inserted today. I've been on compounded T

creme after switching from Androgel which was too messy. T creme was

okay but I had energy sags and needed to reapply it frequently.

I am wondering if the pellets take a while to start working. The

doctor said maybe a couple of weeks. So I'm wondering if about

continuing the T creme in the meantime. What was your experience in

this regard?

> > I was wondering is anyone in this group uses the underskin

> > implant/pellet for t replacment. Sounds interesting to me

because

> > you would not have to worry about remembering to take a shot put

on

> > a patch or rub gel on. If anyone uses this form of T replacement

I

> > would like to hear how you like it. Also I just stared using

> > androgel. Was on androderm but my T level acually went down

while

> > on the patch. From those who use androgel just wondering how it

has

> > worked for you and what I should watch out for. Thanks

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In a message dated 12/25/2003 7:26:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

bugwheat@... writes:

> His father doesnt want this done, he says they are not approved for

> kids.....HaHa ha

>

.....his Father is wrong! The youngest child, that I know of, with

a Clarion is 12 months old.

>>My questions are: Is there a down side to having this done?

What can we expect?<<

Getting the CI is step one. Going through the surgery and everything seems

like such a big deal, but actually it is nothing compared to the excitement of

hearing again!! The next step will be a long road of rehabilitation for

him. How long it takes for him to start to benefit depends a lot on biological

factors and how much time and effort he puts into learning with the CI. There

is a lot of programming the CI's to get them just right. Quite a bit of

experimenting with types of programs and IDR's

( sound windows) and pitches and tones.

I am a CI user myself and don't have a child with one....but do know that

this is a family process....everyone needs to be involved to help your son get

his maximum potential with his CI. He would be starting out from scratch.

You don't just get a CI and go into the world and start hearing. I was deaf

for over 30 years and even though I did have normal hearing up until age 17,

when I got my CI my brain had to relearn how to hear again. It took me three

weeks to be able to talk on the phone again. I did a lot of listening to audio

books while reading along to jumpstart the process.

You will be giving your son the gift and miracle of hearing. It will take a

big committment on your part getting him the rehabilation he needs. Speech

therapist and other professionals will be working with him. You should talk to

other parents who have children with CI's and get an idea of how this will

work. I know of one website called CI Circle that is for parents of children

with CI's. Good luck!

Deb H

Clarion CII surgery 6/18/02-hook up 7/18/02

HiRes,1/2003, Auria, 2/2003

Post lingual/Previous failed implant in 1985

BEA volunteer

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Yes... I recommended the Listen up group and you would find CI Circle there but

here are instructions to join CI Circle. I just did a search and found the

directions.

a.. CI-CIRCLE - For parents of children with CI's and for parents who are

considering CI's for their children. To subscribe, send a message to:

majordomo@.... In the body of the message type: subscribe

cicircle. For the digest version, type: subscribe cicircle-digest.

Alice

You should talk to

other parents who have children with CI's and get an idea of how this will

work. I know of one website called CI Circle that is for parents of children

with CI's. Good luck! Deb H

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Sandy,

Your not alone. My PS let's say falsified my operating room report. Needless to say Dr. Kolb found silicone in my right breast much more than just a slight gel bleed. Anything to cover THEIR asses.

Penni

implants

My implants have already been removed

My plastic surgeon that put the implants in, also explanted me.

I am going to pick up my records on my implants today before they are destroyed

I want to find out what was removed and what kind of condition they were in and exactly when they were removed

Will the plastic surgeon be honest with my records, I do not know but hope he would be.

Answer:

Just picked my records up

hmmm....I sort of already guessed the answer like everyone else p

Sandy

dusty.com@...

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Sandy,

Your not alone. My PS let's say falsified my operating room report.

Needless to say Dr. Kolb found silicone in my right breast much more than just a slight gel bleed.

Anything to cover THEIR asses.

Penni

Those implants put me through the change of life soon after implantation

Another thing I thought I was just having hot flashes but I am not sure anymore

I have to be standing still or I am sweating all the time !!!

46 years old when I had the implants

48 years old when I had them removed

Does anyone know hoe Dr.Kolb medically treats this crap

Sandy

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Sandy, Dr. Kolb has a protocol for detoxing from silicone on her website . . . www.plastikos.com The good news is that, after explant, detoxing and carefully guarding their health, women usually get much better. Hugs and prayers, RogeneSandy Verticelli <dusty.com@...> wrote: Sandy, Your not

alone. My PS let's say falsified my operating room report. Needless to say Dr. Kolb found silicone in my right breast much more than just a slight gel bleed. Anything to cover THEIR asses. Penni Those implants put me through the change of life soon after implantation Another thing I thought I was just having hot flashes but I am not sure anymore I have to be standing still or I am sweating all the time !!! 46 years old when I had the implants 48 years old when I had them

removed Does anyone know hoe Dr.Kolb medically treats this crap Sandy

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Neenie, Some insurance companies do approve explant in advance. The approval letter may be acceptable . . . Dr. Kolb probably had some bad experiences with BCBS. Sometimes you have to collect from the insurance company after the surgery. Where do you go from here? . . . The options aren't good. . . You're unlikely to find insurance that will cover explant without a lengthy waiting period - that's with group insurance. Getting private insurance is going to be virtually impossible. It comes down to how you can raise the money . . . credit card, loan, savings . . . None of the options are happy ones. However, if you're like me, you'll find that getting your implants removed is the best investment you've ever made in yourself! . . . You really have no other options if you're symptomatic. It's a shame because health insurance pays for all kinds

of claims due to our own actions . . . eating, drinking, smoking, carelessness, drugs, etc. . . .They don't like paying for removing breast implants though. Hugs and prayers, Rogene

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I too have BCBS as my secondary coverage.....they just told me they wouldn't cover if I got implants for cosmetic reasons only but if you got for a medical reason and can prove it I think they will.

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That's how my insurance is, too - they wouldn't cover explant unless I

got them because I had cancer. Wouldn't it be nice if data were

collected from insurance companies, to compare implanted women's

illnesses with that of the general population? I'll bet if the

insurance companies were given the decision of whether to approve or

disapprove implants instead of the FDA, the insurance companies would

disapprove them.

Sis

>

> I too have BCBS as my secondary coverage.....they just told me they

wouldn't

> cover if I got implants for cosmetic reasons only but if you got for

a

> medical reason and can prove it I think they will.

>

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Sandy, That's very interesting that you mentioned the skin tags....I have zillions of them, and I'm only 42! I've had them for years and years too! And this rash on my chest that does not ever go away, although some days it's much lighter than others.Sandy Verticelli <dusty.com@...> wrote: I also hadmy saline implants put in at 46 years old and almost immediately it put me through the change of

life. My chest is also covered in skin tags right after explantation or maybe it happened before that My brain was out there somewhere right after implantation. Everything did not function right, From my brain down to my knees but it never reached my toes...or did it ??? Sandy Sandy, Your not alone. My PS let's say

falsified my operating room report. Needless to say Dr. Kolb found silicone in my right breast much more than just a slight gel bleed. Anything to cover THEIR asses. Penni Those implants put me through the change of life soon after implantation Another thing I thought I was just having hot flashes but I am not sure anymore I have to be standing still or I am sweating all the time !!! 46 years old when I had the implants 48 years old when I had them removed Does anyone know hoe Dr.Kolb medically treats this crap Sandy

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Leyna, The skin rash has gone away for a lot of women as soon as they get their implants out . . . IMHO, it's the toxins from the implants trying to get out! My hubby had a zillon skin tags too . . . no implants. . . removing them was a simple matter . . . except for the largest ones, the doctor just clipped them off! . .. The larger ones they burned off. Rogene

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I've had a couple of them cut off, but they grew right

back. I've been putting tea tree oil and coconut oil

on them, and they seem to be going away a little I

think-it's hard to tell though-I have so many! lol

--- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Leyna,

>

> The skin rash has gone away for a lot of women as

> soon as they get their implants out . . . IMHO, it's

> the toxins from the implants trying to get out!

>

> My hubby had a zillon skin tags too . . . no

> implants. . . removing them was a simple matter . .

> . except for the largest ones, the doctor just

> clipped them off! . .. The larger ones they burned

> off.

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

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I reported them to ebay.

Lynda

At 04:26 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote:

> They took the implants off of e-bay

>

>

><http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-of-NEW-240-cc-Saline-Breast-Implants_W0QQitemZ3200154\

09656QQihZ011QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>eBay:

>Pair of NEW 240 cc Saline Breast Implants (item 320015409656 end

>time Aug-11-06 16:54:38 PDT)

>

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>

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Yeahhhhhhhhhhh!!! Rogene Lynda <coss@...> wrote: I reported them to ebay.LyndaAt 04:26 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote:> They took the implants off of e-bay>>><http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-of-NEW-240-cc-Saline-Breast-Implants_W0QQitemZ320015409656QQihZ011QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>eBay: >Pair of NEW 240 cc Saline Breast Implants (item 320015409656 end >time Aug-11-06 16:54:38 PDT)>>>>

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Good for you Lynda...they should have been reported!

How awful.

>

> > They took the implants off of e-bay

> >

> >

> ><http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-of-NEW-240-cc-Saline-Breast-

Implants_W0QQitemZ320015409656QQihZ011QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWD

VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>eBay:

> >Pair of NEW 240 cc Saline Breast Implants (item 320015409656 end

> >time Aug-11-06 16:54:38 PDT)

> >

> >

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Yes, but the same guy has another set up on ebay. Go to ebay, put in

breast implants. Everybody, please keep watch. I will be out of

town for at least a week as my 88 year old stepfather has broken his hip.

Lynda

At 06:24 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote:

>Good for you, Lynda! So happy to hear that. What will people do

>next? Sell used ones??????

>

>Sunny :)

> >

> > > They took the implants off of e-bay

> > >

> > >

> > ><<http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-of-NEW-240-cc-Saline-Breast->http://cg

> i.ebay.com/Pair-of-NEW-240-cc-Saline-Breast-

>Implants_W0QQitemZ320015409656QQihZ011QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDV

>WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>eBay:

> > >Pair of NEW 240 cc Saline Breast Implants (item 320015409656 end

> > >time Aug-11-06 16:54:38 PDT)

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Good for you, Lynda! So happy to hear that. What will people do

next? Sell used ones??????

Sunny :)

>

> > They took the implants off of e-bay

> >

> >

> ><http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-of-NEW-240-cc-Saline-Breast-

Implants_W0QQitemZ320015409656QQihZ011QQcategoryZ88433QQssPageNameZWDV

WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>eBay:

> >Pair of NEW 240 cc Saline Breast Implants (item 320015409656 end

> >time Aug-11-06 16:54:38 PDT)

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Lynn,

Fungal Defense can make you feel yucky.

If it feels too bad, instead of increasing the number of capsules to two today, hold it at one . . . If you feel a little better tomorrow, try two the next day . . . then hold at two another day . . . Hopefully increasing by one capsule every other day, you can keep the discomfort level manageable. Be sure to drink a full glass of water every time you take Fungal Defense.

Think of it as sending in an army to attack the fungal organisms in your body. The fungal organisms are going to put up a fight . . . When they die, they leave a toxic mess behind. Your liver has to clean this toxic stuff out of your blood stream and get rid of it. Sometimes the liver gets overloaded and needs time to catch up. Just go slow and easy. You'll get there! Eating a healthy diet is very important . . . Don't give those nasty fungal organisms any sugar or refined grain. Avoiding chemicals in processed foods will help the liver do its job. . . . It's not the easiest thing to do when it would be more comfortable (right now) to stop detoxing . . . But in the long run, you'll feel much better when the garbage is gone.

If there was tape on the area where the hives are, it's likely the tape caused them. Many people are sensitive to materials in the tape. . . My sister-in-law had huge blisters when her tape came off after back surgery.

Hugs,

Rogene

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I am picking up my implants on Monday. I just called the surgical center in Denver and they said they have them in alcohol. Is this correct? I couldn't remember. Also, I began the Fungal Defense yesterday and I am feeling sort of yucky today. I also have three bright red hives on my back that itch horribly. Perhaps it was from the tape? I am trying to use extra strength Tylenol all day if possible. Possibly go back to work tomorrow. Hope I feel better than today :) Lynn

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Thanks Rogene, I will give a small dose a try.

I will ask my husband to look at the spots on my back when he gets

home, right now I am too sore to turn that far and look in the

mirror. I should be able to tell if tape was over that area or not.

Thanks,

Lynn

>

> Lynn,

>

> Fungal Defense can make you feel yucky.

>

> If it feels too bad, instead of increasing the number of capsules

to two today, hold it at one . . . If you feel a little better

tomorrow, try two the next day . . . then hold at two another

day . . . Hopefully increasing by one capsule every other day, you

can keep the discomfort level manageable. Be sure to drink a full

glass of water every time you take Fungal Defense.

>

> Think of it as sending in an army to attack the fungal organisms in

your body. The fungal organisms are going to put up a fight . . .

When they die, they leave a toxic mess behind. Your liver has to

clean this toxic stuff out of your blood stream and get rid of it.

Sometimes the liver gets overloaded and needs time to catch up. Just

go slow and easy. You'll get there! Eating a healthy diet is very

important . . . Don't give those nasty fungal organisms any sugar or

refined grain. Avoiding chemicals in processed foods will help the

liver do its job. . . . It's not the easiest thing to do when it

would be more comfortable (right now) to stop detoxing . . . But in

the long run, you'll feel much better when the garbage is gone.

>

> If there was tape on the area where the hives are, it's likely the

tape caused them. Many people are sensitive to materials in the

tape. . . My sister-in-law had huge blisters when her tape came off

after back surgery.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> Implants

>

> I am picking up my implants on Monday. I just called the surgical

> center in Denver and they said they have them in alcohol. Is this

> correct? I couldn't remember.

>

> Also, I began the Fungal Defense yesterday and I am feeling sort of

> yucky today. I also have three bright red hives on my back that

itch

> horribly. Perhaps it was from the tape?

>

> I am trying to use extra strength Tylenol all day if possible.

> Possibly go back to work tomorrow. Hope I feel better than today :)

>

> Lynn

>

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Lynn,

I thought they put them in a formalin solution.

Tylenol is very hard on the liver.

Lynda

At 12:02 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote:

>I am picking up my implants on Monday. I just called the surgical

>center in Denver and they said they have them in alcohol. Is this

>correct? I couldn't remember.

>

>Also, I began the Fungal Defense yesterday and I am feeling sort of

>yucky today. I also have three bright red hives on my back that itch

>horribly. Perhaps it was from the tape?

>

>I am trying to use extra strength Tylenol all day if possible.

>Possibly go back to work tomorrow. Hope I feel better than today :)

>

>Lynn

>

>

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When I called them today, they told me alcohol. Wonder if that will

make a difference for Dr. Blais?

Is there anything else you suggest taking for the pain?

Lynn

>

> >I am picking up my implants on Monday. I just called the surgical

> >center in Denver and they said they have them in alcohol. Is this

> >correct? I couldn't remember.

> >

> >Also, I began the Fungal Defense yesterday and I am feeling sort of

> >yucky today. I also have three bright red hives on my back that

itch

> >horribly. Perhaps it was from the tape?

> >

> >I am trying to use extra strength Tylenol all day if possible.

> >Possibly go back to work tomorrow. Hope I feel better than today :)

> >

> >Lynn

> >

> >

>

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I don't think so. Either is a preservative.

Lynda

At 05:00 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote:

>When I called them today, they told me alcohol. Wonder if that will

>make a difference for Dr. Blais?

>

>Is there anything else you suggest taking for the pain?

>

>Lynn

>

> >

> > >I am picking up my implants on Monday. I just called the surgical

> > >center in Denver and they said they have them in alcohol. Is this

> > >correct? I couldn't remember.

> > >

> > >Also, I began the Fungal Defense yesterday and I am feeling sort of

> > >yucky today. I also have three bright red hives on my back that

>itch

> > >horribly. Perhaps it was from the tape?

> > >

> > >I am trying to use extra strength Tylenol all day if possible.

> > >Possibly go back to work tomorrow. Hope I feel better than today :)

> > >

> > >Lynn

> > >

> > >

> >

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Lynn,

For short-term use, Tylenol for pain is fine, as long as you don't have any

liver problems. Tylenol is one of the harder drugs on the liver. Tylenol

is only for pain relief though, it has no anti-inflammatory properties. If

you want a pain reliever with anti-inflammatory properties, Naproxen would

be good, as would Ibuprophen.

Kenda

>

> Is there anything else you suggest taking for the pain?

>

> Lynn

>

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