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3DInger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote:

Working my way backwards through the back-log in my inbox:

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> I wrote an email about Intentional Communities to this group. Not one person responded. I still wonder what your thoughts are, about an AS, Intentional Community.

I had meant to reply to that but my operation and other things got in the way. Did you mean like an online community or a 3D one?

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, I have for about 15 years had a vision of a village or community for the extra sensitive. For the very reason describes below. This was before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew I was sensitive and thought that surely there must be others who are too. I was right! :-)

Every now and then I take this vision out of the closet to dust it off - and then put it back in again when I realise how unrealistic it is. But one can still dream, right?

For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but since I've realized that not all Aspie may be the quiet type, I think I'd prefer Silentville. :-) There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No tractors or helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or children would have to live well away in a special area for those who are not quite as sound-sensitive.

Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume and smoking too. At least in the public buildings. I also want to see the houses blending with the surrounding nature and not be like disturbing exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no fluorescent lights in the whole area.

A remote and sparsely populated place such as Alaska, Canadian wilderness or some deserted island would be ideal. Don't want any existing village too close by. The housing area would be a bit outside the actual village, with houses as far apart as each person wished. The village or commercial center would be run by Aspies or other sensitive people, and designed to take our special needs into consideration so that we can shop and work there without getting sensory overload.

The only real problem I see with this - besides getting funding, land, permits etc. and actually building it - is that Aspies and atypical people are often such individualists that I suspect we'd have a difficult time negotiating all our different wishes and ideals and finding a form that everyone could agree upon. We'd probably start fighting even while still just discussing it. :-)

Oh well.

Inger

Re: International Community (was Pity party etc)

People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as you don't have to hear them. This neighborhood has respectable distances between the houses and it is usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have the nasty habit of playing the radio loud outdoors, but they don't do it so often, but it is annoying.

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There are those of us with " blended " family

sensitivities.

I am very sensitive to perfumes and scents. I can't

abide most of them. My 10-year old can't handle lound

noises, but she has no problem with scents.

I can smell an ashtray a mile away, plus anyone

wearing perfume can trigger my allergies just by

walking by me, even if from across a football field.

> , I have for about 15 years had a vision of a

> village or community for the extra sensitive. For

> the very reason describes below. This was

> before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew I was

> sensitive and thought that surely there must be

> others who are too. I was right! :-)

>

> Every now and then I take this vision out of the

> closet to dust it off - and then put it back in

> again when I realise how unrealistic it is. But one

> can still dream, right?

>

> For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but

> since I've realized that not all Aspie may be the

> quiet type, I think I'd prefer Silentville. :-)

> There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only

> electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No

> tractors or helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or

> children would have to live well away in a special

> area for those who are not quite as sound-sensitive.

>

>

> Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume

> and smoking too. At least in the public buildings. I

> also want to see the houses blending with the

> surrounding nature and not be like disturbing

> exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no

> fluorescent lights in the whole area.

>

> A remote and sparsely populated place such as

> Alaska, Canadian wilderness or some deserted island

> would be ideal. Don't want any existing village too

> close by. The housing area would be a bit outside

> the actual village, with houses as far apart as each

> person wished. The village or commercial center

> would be run by Aspies or other sensitive people,

> and designed to take our special needs into

> consideration so that we can shop and work there

> without getting sensory overload.

>

> The only real problem I see with this - besides

> getting funding, land, permits etc. and actually

> building it - is that Aspies and atypical people are

> often such individualists that I suspect we'd have a

> difficult time negotiating all our different wishes

> and ideals and finding a form that everyone could

> agree upon. We'd probably start fighting even while

> still just discussing it. :-)

>

> Oh well.

>

> Inger

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: International

> Community (was Pity party etc)

>

>

> People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as

> you don't have to hear them. This neighborhood has

> respectable distances between the houses and it is

> usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a

> nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have

> the nasty habit of playing the radio loud outdoors,

> but they don't do it so often, but it is annoying.

>

>

>

>

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Thank you for writing this. I think I must have made a mistake in the original post! It's called, Intentional Community, not international. I want to ask you a question. If I send you a resource, would you be willing to look it over and give me your opinion?

Inger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote:

, I have for about 15 years had a vision of a village or community for the extra sensitive. For the very reason describes below. This was before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew I was sensitive and thought that surely there must be others who are too. I was right! :-)

Every now and then I take this vision out of the closet to dust it off - and then put it back in again when I realise how unrealistic it is. But one can still dream, right?

For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but since I've realized that not all Aspie may be the quiet type, I think I'd prefer Silentville. :-) There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No tractors or helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or children would have to live well away in a special area for those who are not quite as sound-sensitive.

Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume and smoking too. At least in the public buildings. I also want to see the houses blending with the surrounding nature and not be like disturbing exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no fluorescent lights in the whole area.

A remote and sparsely populated place such as Alaska, Canadian wilderness or some deserted island would be ideal. Don't want any existing village too close by. The housing area would be a bit outside the actual village, with houses as far apart as each person wished. The village or commercial center would be run by Aspies or other sensitive people, and designed to take our special needs into consideration so that we can shop and work there without getting sensory overload.

The only real problem I see with this - besides getting funding, land, permits etc. and actually building it - is that Aspies and atypical people are often such individualists that I suspect we'd have a difficult time negotiating all our different wishes and ideals and finding a form that everyone could agree upon. We'd probably start fighting even while still just discussing it. :-)

Oh well.

Inger

Re: International Community (was Pity party etc)

People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as you don't have to hear them. This neighborhood has respectable distances between the houses and it is usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have the nasty habit of playing the radio loud outdoors, but they don't do it so often, but it is annoying.

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I think I mis-typed the original heading. It was supposed to read Intentional community, not international. Just to let you...

AM Healy <am1healy@...> wrote:

There are those of us with "blended" familysensitivities. I am very sensitive to perfumes and scents. I can'tabide most of them. My 10-year old can't handle loundnoises, but she has no problem with scents. I can smell an ashtray a mile away, plus anyonewearing perfume can trigger my allergies just bywalking by me, even if from across a football field.> , I have for about 15 years had a vision of a> village or community for the extra sensitive. For> the very reason describes below. This was> before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew I was> sensitive and thought that surely there must be> others who are too. I was right! :-) > > Every now and then I take this vision out of the> closet to dust it off - and then put it back

in> again when I realise how unrealistic it is. But one> can still dream, right? > > For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but> since I've realized that not all Aspie may be the> quiet type, I think I'd prefer Silentville. :-)> There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only> electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No> tractors or helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or> children would have to live well away in a special> area for those who are not quite as sound-sensitive.> > > Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume> and smoking too. At least in the public buildings. I> also want to see the houses blending with the> surrounding nature and not be like disturbing> exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no> fluorescent lights in the whole area. > > A remote and sparsely populated place such as>

Alaska, Canadian wilderness or some deserted island> would be ideal. Don't want any existing village too> close by. The housing area would be a bit outside> the actual village, with houses as far apart as each> person wished. The village or commercial center> would be run by Aspies or other sensitive people,> and designed to take our special needs into> consideration so that we can shop and work there> without getting sensory overload. > > The only real problem I see with this - besides> getting funding, land, permits etc. and actually> building it - is that Aspies and atypical people are> often such individualists that I suspect we'd have a> difficult time negotiating all our different wishes> and ideals and finding a form that everyone could> agree upon. We'd probably start fighting even while> still just discussing it. :-)> > Oh well. >

> Inger> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: International> Community (was Pity party etc)> > > People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as> you don't have to hear them. This neighborhood has> respectable distances between the houses and it is> usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a> nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have> the nasty habit of playing the radio loud outdoors,> but they don't do it so often, but it is annoying. > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it

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Sorry, my reading mistake. Sure I'll look over anything you send me.

Though I'm having problems with my e-mail provider and also some

other things going on right now, so could you perhaps keep until I've

gotten this stuff sorted out?

Inger

> , I have for about 15 years had a vision of a village or

community for the extra sensitive. For the very reason

describes below. This was before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew I

was sensitive and thought that surely there must be others who are

too. I was right! :-)

>

> Every now and then I take this vision out of the closet to dust it

off - and then put it back in again when I realise how unrealistic it

is. But one can still dream, right?

>

> For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but since I've

realized that not all Aspie may be the quiet type, I think I'd prefer

Silentville. :-) There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only

electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No tractors or

helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or children would have to live

well away in a special area for those who are not quite as sound-

sensitive.

>

> Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume and smoking too.

At least in the public buildings. I also want to see the houses

blending with the surrounding nature and not be like disturbing

exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no fluorescent lights in

the whole area.

>

> A remote and sparsely populated place such as Alaska, Canadian

wilderness or some deserted island would be ideal. Don't want any

existing village too close by. The housing area would be a bit

outside the actual village, with houses as far apart as each person

wished. The village or commercial center would be run by Aspies or

other sensitive people, and designed to take our special needs into

consideration so that we can shop and work there without getting

sensory overload.

>

> The only real problem I see with this - besides getting funding,

land, permits etc. and actually building it - is that Aspies and

atypical people are often such individualists that I suspect we'd

have a difficult time negotiating all our different wishes and ideals

and finding a form that everyone could agree upon. We'd probably

start fighting even while still just discussing it. :-)

>

> Oh well.

>

> Inger

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: International Community (was Pity

party etc)

>

>

>

> People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as you don't have

to hear them. This neighborhood has respectable distances between the

houses and it is usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a

nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have the nasty habit

of playing the radio loud outdoors, but they don't do it so often,

but it is annoying.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

>

>

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Sure...Inger, is our group falling a part? Is there any thing you can do to "fix it"? This is just awful.

Inger <inglori@...> wrote:

Sorry, my reading mistake. Sure I'll look over anything you send me. Though I'm having problems with my e-mail provider and also some other things going on right now, so could you perhaps keep until I've gotten this stuff sorted out? Inger> , I have for about 15 years had a vision of a village or community for the extra sensitive. For the very reason describes below. This was before I

knew I was an Aspie. I just knew I was sensitive and thought that surely there must be others who are too. I was right! :-) > > Every now and then I take this vision out of the closet to dust it off - and then put it back in again when I realise how unrealistic it is. But one can still dream, right? > > For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but since I've realized that not all Aspie may be the quiet type, I think I'd prefer Silentville. :-) There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No tractors or helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or children would have to live well away in a special area for those who are not quite as sound-sensitive. > > Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume and smoking too. At least in the public buildings. I also want to see the houses blending with the surrounding nature and not be like

disturbing exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no fluorescent lights in the whole area. > > A remote and sparsely populated place such as Alaska, Canadian wilderness or some deserted island would be ideal. Don't want any existing village too close by. The housing area would be a bit outside the actual village, with houses as far apart as each person wished. The village or commercial center would be run by Aspies or other sensitive people, and designed to take our special needs into consideration so that we can shop and work there without getting sensory overload. > > The only real problem I see with this - besides getting funding, land, permits etc. and actually building it - is that Aspies and atypical people are often such individualists that I suspect we'd have a difficult time negotiating all our different wishes and ideals and finding a form that everyone could agree upon. We'd probably

start fighting even while still just discussing it. :-)> > Oh well. > > Inger> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: International Community (was Pity party etc)> > > > People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as you don't have to hear them. This neighborhood has respectable distances between the houses and it is usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have the nasty habit of playing the radio loud outdoors, but they don't do it so often, but it is annoying. > > > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect,

friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites." > > > > --------------------------------->

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, I'm really sorry.

I've been out all day so I'm still trying to catch up with what's

been posted in my absence. Unfortunately, the contention is about

things that went on in ancient history and I don't know enough of the

facts of the matter to be sure of anything. I find it just as awful

as you do.

If you can, please just ignore that whole thread and let them sort it

out amongst themselves. I'm sure it will be over shortly.

Inger - wishing that the discussion in question had been held in

private. :-(

> > , I have for about 15 years had a vision of a village or

> community for the extra sensitive. For the very reason

> describes below. This was before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew

I

> was sensitive and thought that surely there must be others who are

> too. I was right! :-)

> >

> > Every now and then I take this vision out of the closet to dust

it

> off - and then put it back in again when I realise how unrealistic

it

> is. But one can still dream, right?

> >

> > For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but since I've

> realized that not all Aspie may be the quiet type, I think I'd

prefer

> Silentville. :-) There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only

> electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No tractors or

> helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or children would have to live

> well away in a special area for those who are not quite as sound-

> sensitive.

> >

> > Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume and smoking

too.

> At least in the public buildings. I also want to see the houses

> blending with the surrounding nature and not be like disturbing

> exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no fluorescent lights

in

> the whole area.

> >

> > A remote and sparsely populated place such as Alaska, Canadian

> wilderness or some deserted island would be ideal. Don't want any

> existing village too close by. The housing area would be a bit

> outside the actual village, with houses as far apart as each person

> wished. The village or commercial center would be run by Aspies or

> other sensitive people, and designed to take our special needs into

> consideration so that we can shop and work there without getting

> sensory overload.

> >

> > The only real problem I see with this - besides getting funding,

> land, permits etc. and actually building it - is that Aspies and

> atypical people are often such individualists that I suspect we'd

> have a difficult time negotiating all our different wishes and

ideals

> and finding a form that everyone could agree upon. We'd probably

> start fighting even while still just discussing it. :-)

> >

> > Oh well.

> >

> > Inger

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: International Community (was Pity

> party etc)

> >

> >

> >

> > People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as you don't

have

> to hear them. This neighborhood has respectable distances between

the

> houses and it is usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a

> nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have the nasty

habit

> of playing the radio loud outdoors, but they don't do it so often,

> but it is annoying.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

> support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

> >

> > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links

page

> in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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Inger, I agree, this should never have even been brought up here.

> > > , I have for about 15 years had a vision of a village or

> > community for the extra sensitive. For the very reason

> > describes below. This was before I knew I was an Aspie. I just knew

> I

> > was sensitive and thought that surely there must be others who are

> > too. I was right! :-)

> > >

> > > Every now and then I take this vision out of the closet to dust

> it

> > off - and then put it back in again when I realise how unrealistic

> it

> > is. But one can still dream, right?

> > >

> > > For a while I thought of calling it Aspieville, but since I've

> > realized that not all Aspie may be the quiet type, I think I'd

> prefer

> > Silentville. :-) There, noise simply would not be allowed. Only

> > electric cars and lawn mowers. No music outdoors. No tractors or

> > helicopters. Those who have dogs and/or children would have to live

> > well away in a special area for those who are not quite as sound-

> > sensitive.

> > >

> > > Preferably, I'd like a prohibition against perfume and smoking

> too.

> > At least in the public buildings. I also want to see the houses

> > blending with the surrounding nature and not be like disturbing

> > exclamation marks ruining the serenity, and no fluorescent lights

> in

> > the whole area.

> > >

> > > A remote and sparsely populated place such as Alaska, Canadian

> > wilderness or some deserted island would be ideal. Don't want any

> > existing village too close by. The housing area would be a bit

> > outside the actual village, with houses as far apart as each person

> > wished. The village or commercial center would be run by Aspies or

> > other sensitive people, and designed to take our special needs into

> > consideration so that we can shop and work there without getting

> > sensory overload.

> > >

> > > The only real problem I see with this - besides getting funding,

> > land, permits etc. and actually building it - is that Aspies and

> > atypical people are often such individualists that I suspect we'd

> > have a difficult time negotiating all our different wishes and

> ideals

> > and finding a form that everyone could agree upon. We'd probably

> > start fighting even while still just discussing it. :-)

> > >

> > > Oh well.

> > >

> > > Inger

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: International Community (was Pity

> > party etc)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > People in close proximity aren't so bad, so long as you don't

> have

> > to hear them. This neighborhood has respectable distances between

> the

> > houses and it is usually ok. The barking dogs outside can be a

> > nuisance though. Some of the newer neighbors do have the nasty

> habit

> > of playing the radio loud outdoors, but they don't do it so often,

> > but it is annoying.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

> > support and acceptance. Everyone is valued.

> > >

> > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links

> page

> > in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

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