RE: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support..agrees!!!

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To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can

therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to

find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved

body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie

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Hi Im so glad you found something that is working,, Im very surprised that they tried wellbutrin as that affects Dopamine and the Interferon depletes the Seretonin, not dopamine.. anyway, Im very glad you found something that works,,, stay in touch hon,, we are pulling for you and your hubby!!! jax Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He

still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...>

wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original

Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children

for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Jackie

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, Thank you so much for sharing. My husband and I are in the waiting period to see a Phychiatrist. My husband's dr. told him to stop tx because after 3 weeks on tx the mood swings were HORRIBLE, along with a few other things!! The soonest they could get him in to see the shrink was next wed. If that's not soon enough, and sometimes I wonder, we might just go on the the Emergency Room. AAAHHHHHH!!!! I hate this... Jody Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't

happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if

not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize

the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie

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Jody hon IF he gets worse,, YES<< GO TO THE ER!!! Jody Rhoden <jobotopher@...> wrote: , Thank you so much for sharing. My husband and I are in the waiting period to see a Phychiatrist. My husband's dr. told him to stop tx because after 3 weeks on tx the mood swings were HORRIBLE, along with a few other things!! The soonest they could get him in to see the shrink was next wed. If that's not soon enough, and sometimes I wonder, we might just go on the the Emergency Room. AAAHHHHHH!!!! I hate this... Jody Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...>

wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist

to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea

because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty

and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcoverPhoto

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Jody, Try and remember it isn't him, it's very difficult sometimes, believe me I truly understand. It's the meds, I used to think, Gawd, what have I done now, they get past this mean and moody time, my husband still experiences moods for 2 days after his shot, but it subsides, and then we get to do it all over again. The shrink will help bigtime, go with him and talk, the one we use only deals with Hep C patients, so he explained things from the get go with us. It does get better....I do know how hard it can be at times. Hang in there.....and vent as much as possible, even let the tears flow....it helps us cope too. Jody Rhoden <jobotopher@...> wrote: , Thank you so much for sharing. My husband and I are in the waiting

period to see a Phychiatrist. My husband's dr. told him to stop tx because after 3 weeks on tx the mood swings were HORRIBLE, along with a few other things!! The soonest they could get him in to see the shrink was next wed. If that's not soon enough, and sometimes I wonder, we might just go on the the Emergency Room. AAAHHHHHH!!!! I hate this... Jody Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we

figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would

love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house

while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcoverPhoto Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

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Don't be afraid to go to the ER with psychiatric problems. May be the best way to do it anyway. I spent a week in the hospital for psychiatric support last summer, and they give folks the chance to try meds under a very controlled situation, with constant monitoring. This is really helpful in finding a good med.

Is your husband off the juice now?

Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Jody RhodenSent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:05 AMHepatitis C Subject: RE: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support..agrees!!!

,

Thank you so much for sharing. My husband and I are in the waiting period to see a Phychiatrist. My husband's dr. told him to stop tx because after 3 weeks on tx the mood swings were HORRIBLE, along with a few other things!! The soonest they could get him in to see the shrink was next wed. If that's not soon enough, and sometimes I wonder, we might just go on the the Emergency Room. AAAHHHHHH!!!! I hate this...

Jody

Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote:

To all spouses,

We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!!

Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:

WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it,

thanks hon

jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote:

I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today.

Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support

I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like.

There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie

PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.

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, I remember my doc saying interferon depletes the seratonin and that there are two kinds of anti-depressants. Zoloft, etc are not in the class of drugs that affects the seratonin.I dont really remember it (thx to being on intereron lol) but apparently zoloft, etc are more mood enhancers. I was prescribed lexapro and found it very helpful - and stayed on it after treatment when I relapsed. Hope you have found what you need. AnnJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Hi Im so glad you found something that is working,, Im very surprised that they tried wellbutrin as that affects Dopamine and the Interferon depletes the Seretonin, not dopamine.. anyway, Im very glad you found something that works,,, stay in touch hon,, we are pulling for

you and your hubby!!! jax Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be

around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry.

But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions:

Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I

think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Jackie

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linda I think that zoloft, celexa, lexapro, prozac ARE ssri ( selective seretonin reuptake inhibitors).. Wellbutrin is for dopamine.ann <agann_01@...> wrote: , I remember my doc saying interferon depletes the seratonin and that there are two kinds of anti-depressants. Zoloft, etc are not in the class of drugs that affects the seratonin.I dont really remember it (thx to being on intereron lol) but apparently zoloft, etc are more mood enhancers. I was prescribed lexapro and found it very helpful - and stayed on it after treatment when I relapsed. Hope you have found what you need. AnnJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Hi Im so glad you found something that is working,, Im very surprised that they tried wellbutrin as that affects Dopamine and the Interferon depletes the Seretonin, not dopamine.. anyway, Im very glad you found something that works,,, stay in touch hon,, we are pulling for you and your hubby!!! jax Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to

much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines

<shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the

back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Jackie PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Jackie

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Sally, My mom is RIGHT now in a psych hosp trying to get her meds worked out and you are right, its very helpful to be there when making changes.. and yes, the ER is a good place to go if you are having trouble and cannot get into see your doc sooner..Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote: Don't be afraid to go to the ER with psychiatric problems. May be the best way to do it anyway. I spent a week in the hospital for psychiatric support last summer, and they give folks the chance to try meds under a very controlled situation, with constant monitoring. This is really helpful in finding a good med. Is your husband off the juice now? Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Jody RhodenSent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:05 AMHepatitis C Subject: RE: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support..agrees!!! , Thank you so much for sharing. My husband and I are in the waiting period to see a Phychiatrist.

My husband's dr. told him to stop tx because after 3 weeks on tx the mood swings were HORRIBLE, along with a few other things!! The soonest they could get him in to see the shrink was next wed. If that's not soon enough, and sometimes I wonder, we might just go on the the Emergency Room. AAAHHHHHH!!!! I hate this... Jody Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the

trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks

hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the

back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcoverPhoto Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! Jackie

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Here is a website that will explain about ssri's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI Wellbutrin is NOT an SSRI,, it is for dopamine and norepinephrine' http://www.wellbutrinxl.com Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: linda I think that zoloft, celexa, lexapro, prozac ARE ssri ( selective seretonin reuptake inhibitors).. Wellbutrin is for dopamine.ann <agann_01@...> wrote: , I remember my doc saying interferon depletes the seratonin and that there

are two kinds of anti-depressants. Zoloft, etc are not in the class of drugs that affects the seratonin.I dont really remember it (thx to being on intereron lol) but apparently zoloft, etc are more mood enhancers. I was prescribed lexapro and found it very helpful - and stayed on it after treatment when I relapsed. Hope you have found what you need. AnnJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Hi Im so glad you found something that is working,, Im very surprised that they tried wellbutrin as that affects Dopamine and the Interferon depletes the Seretonin, not dopamine.. anyway, Im very glad you found something that works,,, stay in touch hon,, we are pulling for you and your hubby!!! jax Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote: To all spouses, We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful

thing!! Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it, thanks hon jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote: I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the

tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today. Sally -----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Jackie PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Jackie Jackie

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I believe the question was if Zoloft is an SSRI. We all know Wellbutrin is not an SSRI. I take Wellbutrin because I need it, without tx. I am loading up on 5-htp before starting tx. We'll see if that helps any.

Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:48 PMHepatitis C Subject: RE: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support..agrees!!!

Here is a website that will explain about ssri's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI

Wellbutrin is NOT an SSRI,, it is for dopamine and norepinephrine'

http://www.wellbutrinxl.com

Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:

linda

I think that zoloft, celexa, lexapro, prozac ARE ssri ( selective seretonin reuptake inhibitors).. Wellbutrin is for dopamine.ann <agann_01@...> wrote:

,

I remember my doc saying interferon depletes the seratonin and that there are two kinds of anti-depressants. Zoloft, etc are not in the class of drugs that affects the seratonin.I dont really remember it (thx to being on intereron lol) but apparently zoloft, etc are more mood enhancers. I was prescribed lexapro and found it very helpful - and stayed on it after treatment when I relapsed. Hope you have found what you need.

AnnJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:

Hi

Im so glad you found something that is working,, Im very surprised that they tried wellbutrin as that affects Dopamine and the Interferon depletes the Seretonin, not dopamine.. anyway, Im very glad you found something that works,,,

stay in touch hon,, we are pulling for you and your hubby!!!

jax Wolfgang <ifonlyouknew@...> wrote:

To all spouses,

We waited about 4 weeks after the side effects started, not smart!! They first put my husband on effexor...upped his mgs every 10 days, they got up to 150mg and he wasn't happy at all. They changed it to Zoloft, he hated them, so then they gave him wellbutrin, that was worse, we figured a dosage of effexor has done the trick here, 37.5mg and 75mg together, the 150's were a bit to much. He still gets a bit irritable (nicely put) 2 days after his shot but it calms him a bit and he doesn't bark as loud anymore....The zoloft made him feel as if he had no feelings, the wellbutrin made him hate people all together, the effexor gives him a much better outlook without the feelings of not wanting to be around people, or being bothered at all. Peg/Ifn/Riba is a rough drug....Phychiatrists are a wonderful thing!!

Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote:

WOW Sally, I hadnt read that,, that is very interesting,, but I know I wouldnt have made it through tx without an ad... and most if not all of the others I know ARE the same! Can you tell me where to go to read what you read? I would love to read it,

thanks hon

jaxSally Hines <shines@...> wrote:

I haven't found an ssri that I can tolerate. They make me anxious and angry. But I've been doing some reading, and I'm taking in to my shrink today, some research suggesting supporting the tryptophan which is precursor to the serotonin. The serotonin is actually an antagonist to the INF, and can therefore reduce the effectiveness of the IFN. At least according to the research I read on medline today.

Sally

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis C [mailto:Hepatitis C ] On Behalf Of Tubs46@...Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:57 AMHepatitis C Subject: Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon & Spousal Support

I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started tx but that's not a good idea because you have to find the one that will work. It took a year and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate. I agree will taking the anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so confidential when talking to the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can turn into on tx. It might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now before it gets like at my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front door most of my family went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the yankees) spent so much time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like.

There were many times that my darling wife wanted to kill me, but we talked, and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of the mood swings I had. But she still loves me, I think.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW! What a ride!"... Eddie HinmanJackie

PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.

Jackie

PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.

Jackie

Jackie

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Hello all (particularly Sally Jackie and )

Sorry if I sent the wrong info - I sorta knew what I

was talking about with the ssri's but didnt realize

which drugs were not ssris. Only knew that was how it

was explained - and that lexapro works for me. I too,

am filling up on them prior to treatment, sally

Good luck to you both. Ann

--- Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote:

> I believe the question was if Zoloft is an SSRI. We

> all know Wellbutrin is

> not an SSRI. I take Wellbutrin because I need it,

> without tx. I am loading

> up on 5-htp before starting tx. We'll see if that

> helps any.

>

> Sally

>

> Re: 2 Questions:

> Depression/Interferon &

> Spousal Support

>

>

>

> I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started

> tx but that's not a

> good idea because you have to find the one that will

> work. It took a year

> and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate.

> I agree will taking the

> anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so

> confidential when talking to

> the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can

> turn into on tx. It

> might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now

> before it gets like at

> my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front

> door most of my family

> went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the

> yankees) spent so much

> time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like.

>

> There were many times that my darling wife wanted to

> kill me, but we talked,

> and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of

> the mood swings I had.

> But she still loves me, I think.

>

> " Life is not a journey to the grave with the

> intention of arriving safely in

> a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to

> skid in broadside,

> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly

> proclaiming, WOW! What a

> ride! " ...

>

> Eddie Hinman

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

>

> _____

>

> Photos

> Got holiday prints? See

>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/holidayprints/*http://pa./

>

*http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38089/*http://pg.photos.

> /ph//print_splash> all the ways to get

> quality prints in your hands

> ASAP.

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

>

> _____

>

> Photos

> Ring in the New Year with Photo

>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pa./*http:/

>

/us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38087/*http://pg.photos..c

> om/ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html & .dir=>

> Calendars. Add photos, events,

>

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[Guest guest]

Ann,

Let me know how it goes for you? I really have seen some fairly good papers

written about adding the 5-htp along with the SSRI. I know that when I'm not

on treatment Prozac makes me feel dead, and the Lexapro I tried for a very

short while was heading the same way. I wonder if the SSRIs don't work for

some folks because they are light on the precursor (5-htp) or just light on

seratonin, and don't have much for the drugs to work with.

Sally

Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon

> & Spousal Support

>

>

>

> I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started

> tx but that's not a

> good idea because you have to find the one that will

> work. It took a year

> and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate.

> I agree will taking the

> anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so

> confidential when talking to

> the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can

> turn into on tx. It

> might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now

> before it gets like at

> my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front

> door most of my family

> went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the

> yankees) spent so much

> time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like.

>

> There were many times that my darling wife wanted to

> kill me, but we talked,

> and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of

> the mood swings I had.

> But she still loves me, I think.

>

> " Life is not a journey to the grave with the

> intention of arriving safely in

> a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to

> skid in broadside,

> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly

> proclaiming, WOW! What a

> ride! " ...

>

> Eddie Hinman

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

>

> _____

>

> Photos

> Got holiday prints? See

>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/holidayprints/*http://pa./

>

*http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38089/*http://pg.photos.

> /ph//print_splash> all the ways to get

> quality prints in your hands

> ASAP.

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

>

> _____

>

> Photos

> Ring in the New Year with Photo

>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pa./*http:/

>

/us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38087/*http://pg.photos..c

> om/ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html & .dir=>

> Calendars. Add photos, events,

>

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[Guest guest]

Ann,

Let me know how it goes for you? I really have seen some fairly good papers

written about adding the 5-htp along with the SSRI. I know that when I'm not

on treatment Prozac makes me feel dead, and the Lexapro I tried for a very

short while was heading the same way. I wonder if the SSRIs don't work for

some folks because they are light on the precursor (5-htp) or just light on

seratonin, and don't have much for the drugs to work with.

Sally

Re: 2 Questions: Depression/Interferon

> & Spousal Support

>

>

>

> I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started

> tx but that's not a

> good idea because you have to find the one that will

> work. It took a year

> and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate.

> I agree will taking the

> anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so

> confidential when talking to

> the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can

> turn into on tx. It

> might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now

> before it gets like at

> my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front

> door most of my family

> went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the

> yankees) spent so much

> time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like.

>

> There were many times that my darling wife wanted to

> kill me, but we talked,

> and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of

> the mood swings I had.

> But she still loves me, I think.

>

> " Life is not a journey to the grave with the

> intention of arriving safely in

> a pretty and well-preserved body...but rather to

> skid in broadside,

> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly

> proclaiming, WOW! What a

> ride! " ...

>

> Eddie Hinman

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

>

> _____

>

> Photos

> Got holiday prints? See

>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/holidayprints/*http://pa./

>

*http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38089/*http://pg.photos.

> /ph//print_splash> all the ways to get

> quality prints in your hands

> ASAP.

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

>

> _____

>

> Photos

> Ring in the New Year with Photo

>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/*http://pa./*http:/

>

/us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38087/*http://pg.photos..c

> om/ph//page?.file=calendar_splash.html & .dir=>

> Calendars. Add photos, events,

>

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Awww Ann, its ok,, I just wanted to make sure that we cleared this up,, I knew that it had been explained in error to you.. its ok,, Lexapro works for me too,, thank God! ann <agann_01@...> wrote: Hello all (particularly Sally Jackie and ) Sorry if I sent the wrong info - I sorta knew what Iwas talking about with the ssri's but didnt realizewhich drugs were not ssris. Only knew that was how itwas explained - and that lexapro works for me. I too,am filling up on them prior to treatment, sally :)Good luck to you both. Ann--- Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote:> I believe the question was if Zoloft is an SSRI. We> all know Wellbutrin is> not an SSRI. I take Wellbutrin because I need it,> without tx. I am loading> up on 5-htp before

starting tx. We'll see if that> helps any.> > Sally> > Re: 2 Questions:> Depression/Interferon & > Spousal Support> > > > I didn't start anti-depressants till after I started> tx but that's not a> good idea because you have to find the one that will> work. It took a year>

and a half to find one that I was able to tolerate.> I agree will taking the> anti-depressant while on tx. and don't be so> confidential when talking to> the Dr. your hubby might not realize the bear he can> turn into on tx. It> might be a good thing for you guys to talk about now> before it gets like at> my house while I was on tx. When I came in the front> door most of my family> went out the back door. My chillins(Children for the> yankees) spent so much> time at grandmas I forgot what they looked like. > > There were many times that my darling wife wanted to> kill me, but we talked,> and cried a lot together and by ourselves because of> the mood swings I had.> But she still loves me, I think.> > "Life is not a journey to the grave with the> intention of arriving safely in> a pretty and well-preserved body...but

rather to> skid in broadside,> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly> proclaiming, WOW! What a> ride!"... > > Eddie Hinman> > > > > Jackie > > > _____ > > Photos> Got holiday prints? See><http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/holidayprints/*http://pa./>*http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/photos/evt=38089/*http://pg.photos.> /ph//print_splash> all the ways to get> quality prints in your hands> ASAP. > > > > > Jackie > > > _____ > > Photos> Ring in the New Year with

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