Re: Re: OT Need Help -Lyme

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I agree with Gene in fact have heard take 3x recommended antiobiotics even if

you have to go to Canada or Mexico....copying 3 wise Lyme disease women who

might add their wisdom.

" Gene Leistico " <gklofacr@...> wrote:

>I've had Lyme's and its nothing to mess with. I did 10 days of

>antibiotics the

>first time and it flared back up a year later. The second time I did 20

>days

>and the symptoms went away except for a persistently stiff and sore

>neck. The

>neck problem lasted for months until about 2 months after switching to

>a

>traditional foods diet. My suspicion is that my improvement is due to

>the

>anti-viral properties of coconut oil (and I eat 4 Tbsp per day minimum)

>and the

>protective and anti-inflamatory properties of raw milk, cream and

>butter. And I

>eat lots of those! Just ask

>

>If it was my child, and I have 3 that are constantly in the woods, I

>would do

>the full course of antibiotics AND get him or her every traditional

>food related

>to immunity and and anti-inflamation. Untreated Lyme's becomes a

>lifelong

>debilitating illness.

>

>BTW, my Lyme's test always came back negative. Don't trust a negative.

>Look

>and treat based on the symptoms.

>

>Gene

>

>>

>> Last Sunday we picked our 3 kids up from grandparents house. They

>spent much of their time outside in woods. Needless to say they had

>plenty of wood ticks but no deer ticks detected. My youngest was sick

>the day we picked him up. Throwing up and diarrhea. Following day my

>oldest son same thing. Last wednesday my husband noticed a mark on my

>oldest sons leg. He thought it was ring worm so put lotrimin on it not

>thinking much about it. But later that day it hit me that maybe it

>might be the classic bulls eye rash of Lyme. So we made doc apt for

>Thursday morning and of coarse the rash was gone. They took blood to

>test for Lyme but of coarse it's not back yet. All day yesterday he

>felt yucky and same with this morning so we took him back to doc. She

>wants to put him on Amox for 20 days just because of circumstances. So

>I'm completely torn on what to do. Don't want to give him antibiotics

>unless I know he has Lyme and even if it does come back negative I've

>heard that those tests cannot be very reliable. In that case my

>understanding is that early treatment of antibiotics is the best

>option.

>> Does anyone know of a good doc that specialized in Lyme? Any chance

>there is anyone available over the weekend? Would waiting until Monday

>to start treatment decrease his chance of full recovery if he is

>positive for it?

>> So many questions Ahhhhh.

>> I can't seem to find some of the recent posts about Lyme.

>>

>> Thanks in advance!

>>

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Really concerned about Lyme's disease and it's effects?

Why not consult with folks who know their business, such as Dr.

Vilensky, a Bastyr University trained Naturopath and an expert in

managing this disease. She works with Dr. Foley at Minnesota

Natural Medicine in Vadnais Heights (St. ), MN. For more info, log

on to www.MinnesotaNaturalMedicine.com.

M. Otten, Natura Farms

On May 14, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Gopee wrote:

>

> So frustrating to hear that even after the antibiotics it can't be

> cured. Were you treated in the early stages?

> I did get a lot of resources from this newsletter/blog from the

> renegade health show. I saw most in the comment section that went on

> forever!

>

>

http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2008/07/01/conventional-or-natural-treatment-for-\

lyme-disease-the-renegade-health-show-episode-86/

>

> I am going to see if I can find a doc who has some experience with

> it. It's so crazy because we never saw/found a tick and my entire

> family has been sick too with some phantom virus that comes and goes

> and comes back. This makes it even more confusing and I'd hate to

> give him so much antibiotics if its just a virus. It's the one day

> rash he had that is throwing us off. His rash lasted less than 24

> hours but none the less it was a mark.

>

>

>

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I would not wait. I would go to urgent care/ER -- and keep going back until you

leave with preferably a 28 day course. If you get 10 days or 21 days, go fill it

and start taking. Then " lose it " and call doctor for refill. I'm guessing by now

docs know Lyme patients do this. But they may allow a refill anyway. My sister

lately had good luck getting her childs pediatrician to write for 28 days for

Lyme (sadly chronic by now). BUT the pharmacy refused to fill it! So the doc

wrote a 21 day-er and will (hopefully) repeat. Just find a way to do 28 days

minimum.

Anything to do with Lyme is a ridiculous labyrinth so I would fight like heck

now to be rid of it for good. Restoring gut health from abx is serious business

-- but a year of focus is waaaay better than a lifetime of managing a disease

like this. Get abx any way you can right away please (and support gut through

it).

I don't mean to be an alarmist -- but I do wish someone slapped me silly when I

stuck with the docs wait and see approach. Every hour counts.

.

Sent from 's iPhone

On May 14, 2011, at 2:35 PM, " Kathy.jo " <kaje62@...> wrote:

I agree with Gene in fact have heard take 3x recommended antiobiotics even if

you have to go to Canada or Mexico....copying 3 wise Lyme disease women who

might add their wisdom.

" Gene Leistico " <gklofacr@...> wrote:

I've had Lyme's and its nothing to mess with. I did 10 days of

antibiotics the

first time and it flared back up a year later. The second time I did 20

days

and the symptoms went away except for a persistently stiff and sore

neck. The

neck problem lasted for months until about 2 months after switching to

a

traditional foods diet. My suspicion is that my improvement is due to

the

anti-viral properties of coconut oil (and I eat 4 Tbsp per day minimum)

and the

protective and anti-inflamatory properties of raw milk, cream and

butter. And I

eat lots of those! Just ask

If it was my child, and I have 3 that are constantly in the woods, I

would do

the full course of antibiotics AND get him or her every traditional

food related

to immunity and and anti-inflamation. Untreated Lyme's becomes a

lifelong

debilitating illness.

BTW, my Lyme's test always came back negative. Don't trust a negative.

Look

and treat based on the symptoms.

Gene

Last Sunday we picked our 3 kids up from grandparents house. They

spent much of their time outside in woods. Needless to say they had

plenty of wood ticks but no deer ticks detected. My youngest was sick

the day we picked him up. Throwing up and diarrhea. Following day my

oldest son same thing. Last wednesday my husband noticed a mark on my

oldest sons leg. He thought it was ring worm so put lotrimin on it not

thinking much about it. But later that day it hit me that maybe it

might be the classic bulls eye rash of Lyme. So we made doc apt for

Thursday morning and of coarse the rash was gone. They took blood to

test for Lyme but of coarse it's not back yet. All day yesterday he

felt yucky and same with this morning so we took him back to doc. She

wants to put him on Amox for 20 days just because of circumstances. So

I'm completely torn on what to do. Don't want to give him antibiotics

unless I know he has Lyme and even if it does come back negative I've

heard that those tests cannot be very reliable. In that case my

understanding is that early treatment of antibiotics is the best

option.

Does anyone know of a good doc that specialized in Lyme? Any chance

there is anyone available over the weekend? Would waiting until Monday

to start treatment decrease his chance of full recovery if he is

positive for it?

So many questions Ahhhhh.

I can't seem to find some of the recent posts about Lyme.

Thanks in advance!

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Cell 612.386.4240

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I heard there is a homeopath up north?? that specializes in Lyme...maybe

someone else can chime in here.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Gene Leistico <gklofacr@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yep, I don't like anti-biotics either, but the damage they do can be dealt

> with. I'd err on the safe side and give that antibiotic asap.

>

> Gene

>

>

>

> >

> > Last Sunday we picked our 3 kids up from grandparents house. They

> > spent much of their time outside in woods. Needless to say they had

> > plenty of wood ticks but no deer ticks detected. My youngest was sick

> > the day we picked him up. Throwing up and diarrhea. Following day my

> > oldest son same thing. Last wednesday my husband noticed a mark on my

> > oldest sons leg. He thought it was ring worm so put lotrimin on it not

> > thinking much about it. But later that day it hit me that maybe it

> > might be the classic bulls eye rash of Lyme. So we made doc apt for

> > Thursday morning and of coarse the rash was gone. They took blood to

> > test for Lyme but of coarse it's not back yet. All day yesterday he

> > felt yucky and same with this morning so we took him back to doc. She

> > wants to put him on Amox for 20 days just because of circumstances. So

> > I'm completely torn on what to do. Don't want to give him antibiotics

> > unless I know he has Lyme and even if it does come back negative I've

> > heard that those tests cannot be very reliable. In that case my

> > understanding is that early treatment of antibiotics is the best

> > option.

> > Does anyone know of a good doc that specialized in Lyme? Any chance

> > there is anyone available over the weekend? Would waiting until Monday

> > to start treatment decrease his chance of full recovery if he is

> > positive for it?

> > So many questions Ahhhhh.

> > I can't seem to find some of the recent posts about Lyme.

> >

> > Thanks in advance!

> >

> >

> > --

> > Cell 612.386.4240

> >

>

>

>

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Kathy-jo

c. 612.386.4240

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Natasha you are correct thank you.

The Dr that Kathy Jo is probably thinking of is Gus Kaubisch, D.C.He is

> known worldwide for his work with Lymes. Here is his info:

>

> 207 6th St S

> , MN

> 56484

>

> Phone: (218) 547-1775

>

> I would recommend calling him Monday, telling them the situation, and get

> their recommendation. He uses herbals and a machine (can't remember details)

> I would like to say we've seen him but I can't get my husband to go (he has

> to be on his deathbed before he'll see a Dr!)

>

>