Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I always give the basic cue of " move the body around the bar " . I don't say pull or push. If I tell someone to move against what they may naturally do (using good technique) I am afraid I'd hinder their progress. Â Best, Mark Extreme Conditioning Personal Training Mark Cotton, B.A., PICP, USAW, ISSA (732) 979-7201 www.extremeconditioning.com This Electronic Message contains information from Mark Cotton and Extreme Conditioning Personal Training,LLC, and is privileged. This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended only for the exclusive use of the individual to whom it is addressed. The information contained hereinafter is proprietary, confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, the reader is hereby put on notice that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. >________________________________ >From: headcmu03 <sjkcscs@...> >Supertraining >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 3:25 PM >Subject: Olympic lifting? > > >Â >A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > >Steve Krzyminski >Indianapolis > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Steve:  This is an accurate cue. You are using the weight of the bar as an object to pull against to increase the speed of movement at which you can get under the bar.  Hedrick Head Strength and Conditioning Coach Colorado State University-Pueblo Pueblo, CO From: headcmu03 <sjkcscs@...> Subject: Olympic lifting? Supertraining Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 7:25 PM  A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? Steve Krzyminski Indianapolis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I don't use this cue at all. If I'm worried about the catch I think of pulling 'the bar into the throat'. But mostly it is extension, extension, extension and speed, speed and more speed. On 3/21/12 1:25 PM, headcmu03 wrote: > A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > > Steve Krzyminski > Indianapolis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I don't use this cue at all. If I'm worried about the catch I think of pulling 'the bar into the throat'. But mostly it is extension, extension, extension and speed, speed and more speed. On 3/21/12 1:25 PM, headcmu03 wrote: > A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > > Steve Krzyminski > Indianapolis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I do use this cue, especially now as I get older and slower. By maintaining control of the bar during the pull-under, I can, or should, be able to use the weight to slightly pull myself down/forward. This is not a huge thing, but more of a mental aspect of the lift for me. For many lifters, it helps to teach them to get under the bar as quickly as possible. Brown NY On 03/22/2012 09:41 AM, Hobman wrote: > > I don't use this cue at all. If I'm worried about the catch I think of > pulling 'the bar into the throat'. But mostly it is extension, > extension, extension and speed, speed and more speed. > > On 3/21/12 1:25 PM, headcmu03 wrote: > > A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull > the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are > you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some > other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > > > > Steve Krzyminski > > Indianapolis > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I guess I'm coming from a background where athletes fail to get full extension - they cut it short to get under the bar. Plus - I'm already OLD and SLOW!!! :^) I do believe the athlete will pull themselves under - I guess the question becomes what is the best focal point to improve the technique of the athlete. I may have to try this cue, but I have some concerns with it. Mostly - is the elbow bend starting to happen prior to full extension? I suspect it is like a lot of other things - depends on the athlete and where they are at. Anyhow, my point is makes a good point - there is obviously some use to this cue. My caution would be - one cue doesn't fit all. Make the cue work for the current technique and where you want the athlete to go. Hobman Saskatoon, Canada On 3/22/12 1:16 PM, wrote: > I do use this cue, especially now as I get older and slower. > > > > By maintaining control of the bar during the pull-under, I can, or > should, be able to use the weight to slightly pull myself down/forward. > This is not a huge thing, but more of a mental aspect of the lift for > me. For many lifters, it helps to teach them to get under the bar as > quickly as possible. > > Brown > NY > > On 03/22/2012 09:41 AM, Hobman wrote: > > > > I don't use this cue at all. If I'm worried about the catch I think of > > pulling 'the bar into the throat'. But mostly it is extension, > > extension, extension and speed, speed and more speed. > > > > On 3/21/12 1:25 PM, headcmu03 wrote: > > > A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull > > the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are > > you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some > > other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > > > > > > Steve Krzyminski > > > Indianapolis > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Im in total agreement with what you wrote. I used the cue " drop " into the catch and some colleagues got on me for it. I know that dropping under the bar may not be the best cue but I think it helps some athletes. I use multiple cues drop/pull/drive under, whatever gets the athlete to get under the bar efficiently. Steve Krzyminski Indianapolis, IN > > > > A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull > > > the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are > > > you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some > > > other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > > > > > > > > Steve Krzyminski > > > > Indianapolis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Yes, this is accurate. This is what I do. Doing so will help you complete the catch. It is good practice for mentally training yourself to get under the bar quickly. Although some people do better with other methods, it's really a personal preference. But yes, this is one way to do this. Philip Hoffman Norton, Ohio > > A coaching cue to teach the catch after the second pull is to " pull the body under the bar. " My question is, is this an accurate cue? Are you actually " pulling " as your driving under the bar? What are some other coaching cues you use when teaching the catch? > > Steve Krzyminski > Indianapolis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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