Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Barwis and his routines cost the University of Michigan well past a Million Dollars. That Million Dollars was completely wasted! When he came to Michigan with , the Coach pontificated that Barwis would be the difference in 2 - 3 extra wins alone. They proceeded to have the worst season in Michigan's 160 year + History and then were promptly fired soon there after. Landau Aventura, Florida www.exercisefraud.com/fatfram.html In a message dated 4/12/2011 2:46:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rex_icard@... writes: My Daughter graduated from Michigan and I follow their football program. I remember the excitement about Mike Barwis when he arrived with Rich and how they had insane workouts. There are several video's of interviews with him on the web he's VERY Energetic. Don't know about his training, but I recently watched an interview with the new Defensive coordinator and he stated that the defensive guys had no power to their punch when they were hitting. Don't know if that is bad technique, or if it was an indictment on the way Barwis trained? I do know that several NFL players former Michigan players came back to train with Barwis for the combine. Thanks, Rex Icard Albany, GA (USA) From: Bill <highlander89982003@...> Subject: Mike Barwis Supertraining Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 3:36 PM Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what he calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which does not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their web site www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be appreciated. Bill Havertown Pa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Modify/cancel your subscription at: mygroups Sign all letters with full name & city of residence if you wish them to be published! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 My Daughter graduated from Michigan and I follow their football program. I remember the excitement about Mike Barwis when he arrived with Rich and how they had insane workouts. There are several video's of interviews with him on the web he's VERY Energetic. Don't know about his training, but I recently watched an interview with the new Defensive coordinator and he stated that the defensive guys had no power to their punch when they were hitting. Don't know if that is bad technique, or if it was an indictment on the way Barwis trained? I do know that several NFL players former Michigan players came back to train with Barwis for the combine. Thanks, Rex Icard Albany, GA (USA) From: Bill <highlander89982003@...> Subject: Mike Barwis Supertraining Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 3:36 PM  Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what he calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which does not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their web site  www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be appreciated.  Bill Havertown Pa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hmm. I see why you are concerned - Never heard of the guy - and you find nothing but glitzy media stuff on both sites (there's 1 for the guy and his training supposedly but it's all " check back soon " - he sells his " tower " and other things apparently? Maybe the gym will still allow your training, since this guy is a 1x a week advocate for 60 min - won't they have simply hours and hours of unused time? Everyone also apparently needs their trainer to do this too - and they cannot hire that many trainers lol.... I guess we wait and see what this guy is up to when he puts up actual information - perhaps you can get a " free " training session and tell us what this is? There appear to be only 2 places doing this so far? The Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA Mike Barwis Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what he calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which does not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their web site www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be appreciated. Bill Havertown Pa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hello all, I checked the site out briefly and on the page that describes the max out method they say you only need one day per week of eccentric training. Of course it reads as if this is there niche obviously, but then as you continue to read futher toward the bottom of the page it says for more serious people (and this implies more serious results) you can do two days per week for an hour. Isnt that wha half of americas gym goers and personal training tranees are doing already. I agree with linda a lot of glitz. On his website it doesnt really explain the BarwisMethod at all. It would imply that his method is directly related to the maxout method, but of course he doesnt train his college or pro athletes like that. Doug Fairbanks, Boston MA Supertraining From: deadliftdiva@... Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:37:04 +0000 Subject: Re: Mike Barwis Hmm. I see why you are concerned - Never heard of the guy - and you find nothing but glitzy media stuff on both sites (there's 1 for the guy and his training supposedly but it's all " check back soon " - he sells his " tower " and other things apparently? Maybe the gym will still allow your training, since this guy is a 1x a week advocate for 60 min - won't they have simply hours and hours of unused time? Everyone also apparently needs their trainer to do this too - and they cannot hire that many trainers lol.... I guess we wait and see what this guy is up to when he puts up actual information - perhaps you can get a " free " training session and tell us what this is? There appear to be only 2 places doing this so far? The Phantom aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter Denver, Colorado, USA Mike Barwis Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what he calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which does not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their web site www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be appreciated. Bill Havertown Pa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 How can this guy claim to have come up with a method that's been around since at least the 70's? Maxout has been near here in Winter Park for a while, and they have some up in Gainesville, FL now. People I know who have tried them said the transition between the positive and negative is jarring. There are a lot of better options for people who want to do heavy negatives. Eccentric Edge in Sheboygan, WI makes plateloaded machines with long assist-levers to make it easy for trainers/spotters to help the trainee do either super heavy negatives, forced reps, forced negatives, machine-assisted-manual-resistance, etc. and there are other companies making motorized machines for training with heavier negative loads or max effort positives and negatives. Drew Baye Orlando, FL On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:37 PM, <deadliftdiva@...> wrote: > > > Hmm. I see why you are concerned - Never heard of the guy - and you find > nothing but glitzy media stuff on both sites (there's 1 for the guy and his > training supposedly but it's all " check back soon " - he sells his " tower " > and other things apparently? > > Maybe the gym will still allow your training, since this guy is a 1x a week > advocate for 60 min - won't they have simply hours and hours of unused time? > Everyone also apparently needs their trainer to do this too - and they > cannot hire that many trainers lol.... > > I guess we wait and see what this guy is up to when he puts up actual > information - perhaps you can get a " free " training session and tell us what > this is? > > There appear to be only 2 places doing this so far? > > The Phantom > aka Schaefer, CMT/RMT, competing powerlifter > Denver, Colorado, USA > Mike Barwis > > Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & > conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what he > calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load > training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is > taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big > thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which > does not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their > web site www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be > appreciated. > > Bill > Havertown Pa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I haven't heard of the guy, but eccentric training is an interesting concept. The problem I have with it is that it is normally associated with increased hypertrophy. For strongman this could have some merit - as I understand it most competitions don't have weight classes or at least most strongmen are at unlimited weight. So it could be useful - but... No matter what strongmen have to specifically train for their event types. There is a lot of skill involved, not too mention the requirement for highly variable adaptations - strength endurance comes to mind immediately. You'd have to train concentrically for many events. I don't see an hour per week cutting it. In strongman it seems success can be measured in sweat left on the floor. Hobman Saskatoon, Canada On 4/11/11 1:36 PM, Bill wrote: > Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what he calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which does not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their web site  www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be appreciated. >  > Bill > Havertown Pa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 There is nothing new about any of this -- except maybe once a week for elite athletes. The whole thing smacks of gimmickry and hyperbole -- people more defined and losing weight and the rest of the late night infomercials claims. I have always been a big eccentric advocate and do believe that 1 eccentric session a week is enough along with various other concepts, depending on the persons needs. I believe it was the Norweigans who used eccentrics to great advantage and was reviewed by this forum. Jerry Telle Lakewood CO USA On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:33 AM, rex icard wrote: > You can check out their web site www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back > from the group would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I have heard from one of my players, a UM grad, that they are again replacing all the equipment in the weight room for the new coach after they had replaced everything in the weight room when he came in. Going back to machines is what I heard, so yikes. They were doing lots of barbell complexes and very intensive circuits last summer there. Which didn't sound as radical as what's been described here. Mark Camillus, NY Sent from my iPad On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Exarchives@... wrote: > Barwis and his routines cost the University of Michigan well past a Million > Dollars. That Million Dollars was completely wasted! When he came to > Michigan with , the Coach pontificated that Barwis would be the > difference in 2 - 3 extra wins alone. They proceeded to have the worst season in > Michigan's 160 year + History and then were promptly fired soon there after. > > Landau > Aventura, Florida > www.exercisefraud.com/fatfram.html > > > In a message dated 4/12/2011 2:46:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > rex_icard@... writes: > > My Daughter graduated from Michigan and I follow their football program. I > remember the excitement about Mike Barwis when he arrived with Rich > and how they had insane workouts. There are several video's of > interviews with him on the web he's VERY Energetic. Don't know about his training, > but I recently watched an interview with the new Defensive coordinator and > he stated that the defensive guys had no power to their punch when they > were hitting. Don't know if that is bad technique, or if it was an indictment > on the way Barwis trained? I do know that several NFL players former > Michigan players came back to train with Barwis for the combine. > > Thanks, > Rex Icard > Albany, GA (USA) > > > > From: Bill <highlander89982003@...> > Subject: Mike Barwis > Supertraining > Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 3:36 PM > > Has anyone on this forum ever worked with Mike Barwis? He was a strength & > conditioning coach at West Virgina then went to Michigan. He created what > he calls the Barwis Method, which as far as I can tell is eccentric load > training. The reason I ask is a company he works with called Maxout corp is > taking over the gym where I do most of my strongman training. Their big > thing is a once a week, one hour eccentric loaded training session which does > not lend itself to the type of training I do. You can check out their web > site www.maxoutcorp.com Any feed back from the group would be appreciated. > > Bill > > Havertown Pa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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