Re: Running away again

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In a message dated 7/2/01 1:03:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

greenpak@... writes:

> his poor gaurdian angel must have frazzled wings for quite some

> time now.

ROTFLOL a!!!! I like this line. LOL

Donna

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Hi ,

Its in CT, boy I can relate, its is very hard with our kids. I have

five and the oldest is only 8 all boys. Whenever we go to family

functions which are always huge lots of kids and adults, the relatives

are always saying why isn;t learning and

he doesnt have any focus and of course they stare when he eats cause

everything goes in the mouth very quickly. and he eats mostly with his

hands. and the kids all ask a million questions and want to play with

him then he gets overstimulated and starts biting and growling and very

hyer!! its not the kids that get to me its the adults. s gramma

is always saying why isn't he making any progress? well he is but very

slow and consistant at this point but of course not like his brothers.

The only thing i can tell you is that you are certiantly not alone in

your feelings.

I never leave with any one, my respite is when he is in school, I

like you worry that he will not be understood or just being himself you

have to be always be alert and aware of where he is at ALL times. Just

take one day at a time julie and hang in there!!! -- mom to alek8

andrew7, 5 ds/asd. logan 3 and liam 1/12.

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i know how you feel julie, we had a similair incident at wal mart, but we

did find him wandering around the parking lot, uugh, how he didnt get hit is

beyond me his poor gaurdian angel must have frazzled wings for quite some

time now. Prayers that things go well at your moms for her and sean, and

that you have a relaxed time at the conference. shawna.

> Running away again

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> I am still shaken up over this and haven't stopped obsessing over

> it but it finally happened. Yesterday, my sister and I took

> (6yrs DS/ASD ADHD) and Elisha (6 months) to the mall so my DH

> could sleep. He's been working a lot lately, lots of nights and

> days and weekends, basically 24/7. This promotion is worse then

> we thought. Anyway, this leaves me home alone with , who has

> zero discipline, " takes off " all the time, doesn't listen or

> understand what you are trying to say, is constantly getting into

> or breaking things etc. and a 6 month old who is very clingy and

> want to be held all the time or she'll cry. My sister helps out

> as much as she can and my parents help out a lot. Anyway, my

> sister and I decided to go shopping so DH could sleep. We were

> at the mall no more than 10 minutes when I heard footsteps

> running away. I looked, and had escaped out of his

> stroller. He was nowhere in sight. My gut just dropped. He

> could have been anywhere. I yelled to my sister and went running

> around looking for him. You don't realize how big a department

> store is until you are trying to find a child. I looked for a

> couple of minutes and went back to my sister. I told her I

> couldn't find him. She gave me my daughter and ran outside to

> see if he went out. We were afraid that he went outside and

> found a car that wasn't locked and got in. He loves cars and

> wants so bad to drive one. We didn't know where to even look.

> If he was outside in a car, WHERE? She came back in and started

> running around the store while I was trying to get the nearest

> clerk to find security, which seemed to be an impossible task. I

> felt so helpless and lost. My sister finally found him. While

> she was trying to get another clerk to call security, she

> remembered the escalator. She looked all over and found him at

> the top of the escalator watching everyone else coming up it.

> Luckily he didn't wonder around up there where the crystal and

> china were. I've never felt so helpless in my life. It was a

> lapsed time of about 10 minutes. He doesn't even understand that

> he did anything wrong. He as no idea that it hurt me or that he

> could have been hurt or kidnapped or anything. It's getting to

> the point where I can't take him places anymore. We gave up

> going to public function things years ago, like picnics or

> anything at people's houses. But now I can't even go out of our

> home. I always feel bad when I ask my parents or sister to watch

> him because I know what a big deal he can be. I am so worried

> about this weekend. Marc and I are going to the conference, but

> my mom has to deal with both kids while we are gone. I know that

> she's worried about it. She can't run after him, she has bad

> knees. My sister works during the day and has other things going

> on too. I am looking forward to the conference to get away and

> to learn more about , but I fear for what he will do while

> we're gone. I'm sorry this is so long, I just need to get this out.

>

> Take care,

> Tollefson

> Marc Tollefson

> (6years DS/ASD ADHD)

> Elisha (6months)

>

>

>

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For what it is worth - this running/wandering behavior gets better as our

kids age. But for your piece of mind, you will need to analyze where your

security most needs to be for your peace of mind. Do you have secure locks

and/or alarms on places that he is most likely to exit? Do you have a

secure strap that he cannot open in the car and the stroller? HAve you

checked at the mall what their procedure is for a lost child? Some stores

and malls have really good methods of finding a child - the best I have ever

seen is Bulington Coat Factory. But K-Mart and Walmart also have a system.

Check ahead and you will feel better. Have you talked to your local police

force? Ours (and the two neighboring municipalities) have our son's picture

and description of behavior in their police cars).

Enjoy the conference!

Sara

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i agree, wal mart did a great job when nathan ran off, a few years or so

ago, and our local cop shop has nathan's pic, and size dememsions ect, as

does the 911 have an info sheet on nathan, in case of fire or what ever the

rescue people or firemen will know of nathan and that he will not answer

them etc. shawna.

> Re: Running away again

>

>

> For what it is worth - this running/wandering behavior gets better as our

> kids age. But for your piece of mind, you will need to analyze

> where your

> security most needs to be for your peace of mind. Do you have

> secure locks

> and/or alarms on places that he is most likely to exit? Do you have a

> secure strap that he cannot open in the car and the stroller? HAve you

> checked at the mall what their procedure is for a lost child?

> Some stores

> and malls have really good methods of finding a child - the best

> I have ever

> seen is Bulington Coat Factory. But K-Mart and Walmart also have

> a system.

> Check ahead and you will feel better. Have you talked to your

> local police

> force? Ours (and the two neighboring municipalities) have our

> son's picture

> and description of behavior in their police cars).

>

> Enjoy the conference!

>

> Sara

>

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,

I'm so sorry that happened. I recognize all those feelings; I can't count

the number of times we've been through this.

CK,

Mom to Ian (2/89),

(9/90),

and Rose (6/94)

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,

By the time you read this , hope you had a nice trip to the

conference and spoke to other parents and received lots of

information . What a scare you went through . Hope all went well with

your family watching your kids . I know the feeling . This year has

been better for us . I still keep an eye out for my son and try to

have him at my distant all the time . They can be a sneak ,

especially if you're busy doing something else . At school and at

home, we have invested towards 2-way radios . So that ,if we need to

run different directions we could stay in touch . That is too much

for you to handle , you still have a baby to care for . Glad was

safe . Here is a website to glance for Safety Items that maybe you

could get ideas, http://www.frs-inc.com/safety.html . Joan has also

mentioned an idea , that I actually have used attaching a recorded

keychain with your childs picture and a brief message recorded ,

which could be purchased at a Radio Shack . I Thank God ! for that

because my son escaped from his teacher once as she was assisting a

wheel-chair classmate on a bus . Then Zooooommm my runner()

dashed to a different bus . The bus driver thought he was from

another country because he did not talk . But behold , the keychain

to the rescue . Thats just 1 of his stories . Just thought I share

this as I wanted you to know we can all relate . Take Care , hope

that he stops running away , but that will be a miracle . So prayers

your way . Wish I had met you at the conference , hopefully there

will be a next time .

Irma , 12, DS/ASD .

-- In @y..., " TollyTX " <tollytx@h...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I am still shaken up over this and haven't stopped obsessing over

it but it finally happened. Yesterday, my sister and I took

(6yrs DS/ASD ADHD) and Elisha (6 months) to the mall so my DH could

sleep. He's been working a lot lately, lots of nights and days and

weekends, basically 24/7. This promotion is worse then we thought.

Anyway, this leaves me home alone with , who has zero

discipline, " takes off " all the time, doesn't listen or understand

what you are trying to say, is constantly getting into or breaking

things etc. and a 6 month old who is very clingy and want to be held

all the time or she'll cry. My sister helps out as much as she can

and my parents help out a lot. Anyway, my sister and I decided to go

shopping so DH could sleep. We were at the mall no more than 10

minutes when I heard footsteps running away. I looked, and had

escaped out of his stroller. He was nowhere in sight. My gut just

dropped. He could have been anywhere. I yelled to my sister and

went running around looking for him. You don't realize how big a

department store is until you are trying to find a child. I looked

for a couple of minutes and went back to my sister. I told her I

couldn't find him. She gave me my daughter and ran outside to see if

he went out. We were afraid that he went outside and found a car

that wasn't locked and got in. He loves cars and wants so bad to

drive one. We didn't know where to even look. If he was outside in

a car, WHERE? She came back in and started running around the store

while I was trying to get the nearest clerk to find security, which

seemed to be an impossible task. I felt so helpless and lost. My

sister finally found him. While she was trying to get another clerk

to call security, she remembered the escalator. She looked all over

and found him at the top of the escalator watching everyone else

coming up it. Luckily he didn't wonder around up there where the

crystal and china were. I've never felt so helpless in my life. It

was a lapsed time of about 10 minutes. He doesn't even understand

that he did anything wrong. He as no idea that it hurt me or that he

could have been hurt or kidnapped or anything. It's getting to the

point where I can't take him places anymore. We gave up going to

public function things years ago, like picnics or anything at

people's houses. But now I can't even go out of our home. I always

feel bad when I ask my parents or sister to watch him because I know

what a big deal he can be. I am so worried about this weekend. Marc

and I are going to the conference, but my mom has to deal with both

kids while we are gone. I know that she's worried about it. She

can't run after him, she has bad knees. My sister works during the

day and has other things going on too. I am looking forward to the

conference to get away and to learn more about , but I fear for

what he will do while we're gone. I'm sorry this is so long, I just

need to get this out.

>

> Take care,

> Tollefson

> Marc Tollefson

> (6years DS/ASD ADHD)

> Elisha (6months)

>

>

>

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--

I can certainly relate to your story -- Nicolas (also 6) is quite an

escape artist. I try to keep an eagle's eye on him, but it's not

always possible, as you know. The scariest thing he did was a year

or so ago. My husband and I were at church choir practice when the

nursery worker came running in the sanctuary saying " Nicolas has

disappeared! " She was reading a story to all the children, she

looked up, and Nicolas was gone. We all jumped up and everyone ran

outside -- in the dark -- and fanned up and down two busy streets

looking for Nicolas and calling his name. I knew this would do no

good because Nicolas would be terrified, not be able to answer, and

just hide. I have never in my life felt such cold fear. In a brief

moment of lucidity -- before complete panic set in -- I thought

" where would Nicolas want to go? " The answer was " home " . I ran to

my van, and there he was, standing patiently by his door, waiting to

be let in. As I write this, even the memory makes me tear up.

Anyway, I recently purchased, on line at www.kids-id.com , a

bracelet that he wears constantly. It has his name, address, phone

number and diagnosis engraved on it. I know it won't stop his

running away behavior, but it makes me feel a tiny bit better

knowing that he has it.

Good luck to you -- your family sounds like mine!

Carole

mom to Nicolas (6)

and (4 months)

-- In @y..., " TollyTX " <tollytx@h...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I am still shaken up over this and haven't stopped obsessing over it

but it finally happened. Yesterday, my sister and I took (6yrs

DS/ASD ADHD) and Elisha (6 months) to the mall so my DH could sleep.

He's been working a lot lately, lots of nights and days and weekends,

basically 24/7. This promotion is worse then we thought. Anyway,

this leaves me home alone with , who has zero discipline, " takes

off " all the time, doesn't listen or understand what you are trying to

say, is constantly getting into or breaking things etc. and a 6 month

old who is very clingy and want to be held all the time or she'll cry.

My sister helps out as much as she can and my parents help out a lot.

Anyway, my sister and I decided to go shopping so DH could sleep. We

were at the mall no more than 10 minutes when I heard footsteps

running away. I looked, and had escaped out of his stroller. He

was nowhere in sight. My gut just dropped. He could have been

anywhere. I yelled to my sister and went running around looking for

him. You don't realize how big a department store is until you are

trying to find a child. I looked for a couple of minutes and went

back to my sister. I told her I couldn't find him. She gave me my

daughter and ran outside to see if he went out. We were afraid that

he went outside and found a car that wasn't locked and got in. He

loves cars and wants so bad to drive one. We didn't know where to

even look. If he was outside in a car, WHERE? She came back in and

started running around the store while I was trying to get the nearest

clerk to find security, which seemed to be an impossible task. I felt

so helpless and lost. My sister finally found him. While she was

trying to get another clerk to call security, she remembered the

escalator. She looked all over and found him at the top of the

escalator watching everyone else coming up it. Luckily he didn't

wonder around up there where the crystal and china were. I've never

felt so helpless in my life. It was a lapsed time of about 10

minutes. He doesn't even understand that he did anything wrong. He

as no idea that it hurt me or that he could have been hurt or

kidnapped or anything. It's getting to the point where I can't take

him places anymore. We gave up going to public function things years

ago, like picnics or anything at people's houses. But now I can't

even go out of our home. I always feel bad when I ask my parents or

sister to watch him because I know what a big deal he can be. I am so

worried about this weekend. Marc and I are going to the conference,

but my mom has to deal with both kids while we are gone. I know that

she's worried about it. She can't run after him, she has bad knees.

My sister works during the day and has other things going on too. I

am looking forward to the conference to get away and to learn more

about , but I fear for what he will do while we're gone. I'm

sorry this is so long, I just need to get this out.

>

> Take care,

> Tollefson

> Marc Tollefson

> (6years DS/ASD ADHD)

> Elisha (6months)

>

>

>

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>Anyway, I recently purchased, on line at www.kids-id.com , a

>bracelet that he wears constantly. It has his name, address, phone

>number and diagnosis engraved on it. I know it won't stop his

>running away behavior, but it makes me feel a tiny bit better

>knowing that he has it.

Carole,

How absolutly terrifying! Thank goodness you had that mother instinct...

Thanks for the link too.

Sandy

mom to Gabby (newly sans tonsils and adenoids... as of 1p today)

and Adam

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In a message dated 7/9/01 4:12:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, carole@...

writes:

> I have never in my life felt such cold fear. In a brief

> moment of lucidity -- before complete panic set in -- I thought

> " where would Nicolas want to go? " The answer was " home " . I ran to

> my van, and there he was, standing patiently by his door, waiting to

> be let in. As I write this, even the memory makes me tear up.

> Anyway, I recently purchased, on line at www.kids-id.com , a

> bracelet that he wears constantly. It has his name, address, phone

> number and diagnosis engraved on it. I know it won't stop his

> running away behavior, but it makes

Carole,

BOY, can I relate. Maddie has escaped a few times. Once, I had

gotten all the kids out to school and was straightening up. Our house has a

lot of doors on the first floor. My son had opened the hall door (one we

almost never use) without my knowledge. Maddie got out and went to a major

street. A construction truck driving down the street stopped, the nice

gentleman picked her up and just started walking, hoping to find a parent.

Well, there I was, screaming frantically a block away. I swear, what a

nightmare. Another time, she escaped at my MIL's house. We were actually

all in cars, searching. Here, my dh had figured out that the most likely

path she'd take would just be straight. Sure enough, she had walked out the

door, straight into the neighbors yard across the street. I SO know that

panic feeling. It's such a sick sick feeling and when you find your child,

you just shake for hours afterwards. AND cry!!!!

I tried the bracelet, but Maddie has just literally eaten it right off her

arm. I purchased one of those body alarms, and she rips it right off, no

matter where I try to hide it. It's really quite terrifying.

Donna

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In a message dated 7/13/01 2:52:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< I purchased one of those body alarms, and she rips it right off, no

matter where I try to hide it. It's really quite terrifying.

Donna

>>

Donna,

I am wondering about a dog. Do you think anyone can train a dog to be ever

vigilent like Lassie? Bark loudly when our children leave the house, louder

when they leave the yard, frantically look for mom or dad, and maybe follow

them if all else fails. Does anyone have a dog like this? just wondering.

We don't have a dog but such a dog would be nice.

Lauri

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In a message dated 7/13/01 2:52:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< I purchased one of those body alarms, and she rips it right off, no

matter where I try to hide it. It's really quite terrifying.

Donna

>>

Donna,

I am wondering about a dog. Do you think anyone can train a dog to be ever

vigilent like Lassie? Bark loudly when our children leave the house, louder

when they leave the yard, frantically look for mom or dad, and maybe follow

them if all else fails. Does anyone have a dog like this? just wondering.

We don't have a dog but such a dog would be nice.

For anyone else out there, does anyone else have a problem having their

messages post up? This is the second time I am sending this one and I will

see if it goes through. I usually highlight and area and then hit reply and

add what I want to. I have noticed other things of mine haven't always been

picked up...here goes, will try again.

Lauri

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Ive tried bracelets too, and nathan always breaks

them, i must huave a good container of them and broken

chains for them. I am almost ready to get nathan a

tatoo of at least his name and allergies, those wont

ever change, but they are too painful at least so i am

told. Maybe just write it nicely in permanent marker

every so often so stays there,lol, or maybe sew a

medium sized info type fabic card, inside all of his

shirts and pants, hmmmmmm, i wonder, there has to be a

way somehow. shawna.

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I did some research on dogs like this for nathan, and

a service dog could be trained to get help etc, but

since our kids are MR they arent allowed them, dont

understand how to do commands or praise or feed etc

cares, our kids can get therapy dogs, but they are not

much different than a basic pet dog you can get

anywhere for way less the price. Maybe we could get

hold of some search and rescue dogs, they are

basically trained in this, sounds like a good project

i can ask about, a new catagory of dog like a " pal and

protect " dog, hmmmm. shawna.

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In a message dated 7/14/01 6:30:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> i a,

> I received some item in the mail from the PTA online

> that I filled in and sewed into Ted's shoes. At least with

> shoes you only have to do it 3-4 times depending on how

> many pairs of shoes your child has. At least it is less than

> clothing. I don't remember where I got them but they were

> for safety.

> Gail

>

Good idea Gail, cept Miss Maddie won't keep shoes on. Maybe I'll just

brand her......ONLY kidding....LOLOLOL

Donna

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<<Ive tried bracelets too, and nathan always breaks

them, i must huave a good container of them and broken

chains for them. I am almost ready to get nathan a

tatoo of at least his name and allergies, those wont

ever change, but they are too painful at least so i am

told. Maybe just write it nicely in permanent marker

every so often so stays there,lol, or maybe sew a

medium sized info type fabic card, inside all of his

shirts and pants, hmmmmmm, i wonder, there has to be a

way somehow. shawna.>>

Hi a,

I received some item in the mail from the PTA online

that I filled in and sewed into Ted's shoes. At least with

shoes you only have to do it 3-4 times depending on how

many pairs of shoes your child has. At least it is less than

clothing. I don't remember where I got them but they were

for safety.

Gail

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In a message dated 7/14/01 3:31:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

<< Hi a,

I received some item in the mail from the PTA online

that I filled in and sewed into Ted's shoes. At least with

shoes you only have to do it 3-4 times depending on how

many pairs of shoes your child has. At least it is less than

clothing. I don't remember where I got them but they were

for safety.

Gail >>

LOL here! Never thought of marking a shoe, but whatever works. LOL

Wouldn't work for Seth because he never keeps a shoe on. LOL Have to keep

all the windows up in the car because he throws them out. Strange, as much

as he loves to dangle and spin them. I wouldn't think he would toss one! LOL

Gail

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> Donna--

Wow! She eats it off?!! Your Maddie is quite the inventive girl -- I have to

tell you that I love reading about her...

Nicolas hasn't figured out yet how to remove his bracelet, and I hope to God he

never does. Actually, I hope by the time he does figure it out, he'll be so

used to it that he won't want it to come off...wishful thinking, probably, but

I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Carole

Nicolas (6)

>

> I tried the bracelet, but Maddie has just literally eaten it right off her

> arm. I purchased one of those body alarms, and she rips it right off, no

> matter where I try to hide it. It's really quite terrifying.

> Donna

>

>

[Guest guest]

neat idea but nathan also doesnt keep his shoes on

yet. shawna.

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I am beginning to wonder if we should be requesting to have these

locator devices surgically implanted in our kids. I know that Angel

would eat one off in no time flat. And the nakey-nakey thing is her

favorite attire these days, so shoe and clothing attachments won't

work with her. Her daycare lost her twice last week and we lost her

twice as well. She's the world's fastest bolter for sure. I pray

she'll run the special Olympic sprint races that fast once she's old

enought to qualify, but if I know my little Angel, she'll get to the

starting line and do the drop'n flop instead!

Cheryl

>

>

> > Donna--

>

> Wow! She eats it off?!! Your Maddie is quite the inventive girl --

I have to tell you that I love reading about her...

> Nicolas hasn't figured out yet how to remove his bracelet, and I

hope to God he never does. Actually, I hope by the time he does

figure it out, he'll be so used to it that he won't want it to come

off...wishful thinking, probably, but I'll keep my fingers crossed!

> Carole

> Nicolas (6)

>

> >

> > I tried the bracelet, but Maddie has just literally eaten it

right off her

> > arm. I purchased one of those body alarms, and she rips it

right off, no

> > matter where I try to hide it. It's really quite terrifying.

> > Donna

> >

> >

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Hi all ,

An article I wanted to share for those whose kids do keep their shoes

on and what a coincidence , its a subject we've been discussing . Not

that I want to advertise, but its a safety issue .

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In a message dated 7/16/01 2:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

magnussen@... writes:

> She's the world's fastest bolter for sure. I pray

> she'll run the special Olympic sprint races that fast once she's old

> enought to qualify, but if I know my little Angel, she'll get to the

> starting line and do the drop'n flop instead!

LOLOL Cheryl. This is what we say about Maddie. She does tend to run in a

straight line, so we joke that she could do the Broad Street run here in

Philly, since it's straight all the way.

Donna

[Guest guest]

We'll be had if we ever lose our sense of humour Donna. Does Maddie

ever disappear into dark spaces just to calm herself? Angel goes in

the closet and shuts the doors, or stands behind all the coats on the

rack, and she also goes under all the blankets on the bed and just

lies there. She won't respond when you look for her. She isn't

hiding or playing a game. I think she is just doing something

calming for herself. Self regulating. Makes the disappearing act

very difficult for me though. Now I am learning to look in dark

places. Found her under my MIL's house in the crawl space a few

weeks ago. Now that is a place none of us would want to go! I think

I need to tell her that there are B U G S in those places so she

won't hide there anymore. She hates bugs big time. Could be a good

deterrant.

Cheryl

> In a message dated 7/16/01 2:00:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> magnussen@t... writes:

>

>

> > She's the world's fastest bolter for sure. I pray

> > she'll run the special Olympic sprint races that fast once she's

old

> > enought to qualify, but if I know my little Angel, she'll get to

the

> > starting line and do the drop'n flop instead!

>

> LOLOL Cheryl. This is what we say about Maddie. She does tend

to run in a

> straight line, so we joke that she could do the Broad Street run

here in

> Philly, since it's straight all the way.

> Donna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, will sometimes go into the downstairs bathroom and close

the door and play with his ball, just sit there and bounce it in the

dark. or if his brothers are wrestling and being loud he will just take

his ball and go into a corner somewhere as if to say, I have had

enough. - mom to Alek 8, 7, 5 DS/ASD,

Logan 3, and Liam 11/2.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/16/01 10:46:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

magnussen@... writes:

>

> We'll be had if we ever lose our sense of humour Donna. Does Maddie

> ever disappear into dark spaces just to calm herself?

OH YES Cheryl. Her favorite place to be used to be the closet----You know,

all those wonderful dangling things!!!! LOL Once, we couldn't find her

and she was hiding in the tv cabinet. Just this past weekend, my BIL was

kind enough to offer to babysit her while Duff and I and his sister (BIL's

wife) went out on the boat with my other little girl and my nephew. When we

came back, he said that he couldn't find her and was in a total panic. He

figured he'd rather leave the country and assume a new identity than tell us

he lost her.......;-) BUT, she was in the closet. I'll never forget the

very first time she got away from us. I remember ALL of us running around

like crazy screaming her name..........and like a light going off, REALIZING

calling her makes NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever. VERY scary!!!

Donna