Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I never drank.. during pregnancy... but sucked down soda..o.boy.. wait until the caffiene may cause autism reports come out... if they have not already...LiaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 the fetal alcohol issue usually goes with RAD.. reactive attachment... as boozing mom.. will usually booze after baby is born.... we had a kid from russia on our caseload... mom and dad drank.. during pregnancy.. after pregnancy.. baby ignored due to mom and dad boozing.. kid taken.. put in orphanage until what ever age..LiaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 the fetal alcohol issue usually goes with RAD.. reactive attachment... as boozing mom.. will usually booze after baby is born.... we had a kid from russia on our caseload... mom and dad drank.. during pregnancy.. after pregnancy.. baby ignored due to mom and dad boozing.. kid taken.. put in orphanage until what ever age..LiaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 hey... throw in the cabana boy with the pool... and I am there...lololol.. LiaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I believe.. and just my honest opinion.. the june 11th trials are coming up.. LiaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts blindfolded at typical causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? Idiots. From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of andrea52521991 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM EOHarm Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses permanently. Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women drinking during pregnancy, a study says. The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says steps need to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum disorder as well as provide support for affected families. The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. It is difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and autism. " With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, we simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund comprehensive strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, with 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers drinking was closer to 80 per cent. Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy was a problem that required urgent nationwide action. Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as teenagers, should be developed. They should also research the primary health sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive age were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive education. All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol use regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first antenatal visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where needed. The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested numbers, with and without a diagnosis, were significant. It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 births. However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater here because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women drinking. Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, diagnosis and support interventions. New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had no consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it. The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no programmes had been developed but, without trained professionals to diagnose it, it could not be accurately assessed. Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, was intended to inform and guide the development of effective policy and responses within the public sectors. - NZPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 HA! The autism generation of the 90's was born to Mom who REALLY did not drink overall. Women are actually more relaxed about having a glass of wine while pregnant now. There was an article in The New York Times about exactly that topic. - I remember that I had a scotch and soda (Chivas, yum yum!) before I knew I was pregnant with and that one drink tormented me for my entire pregnancy. I attended a dear friend's wedding when I was 7 weeks pregnant with my first and I wouldn't even TOAST her with a sip of champagne. This kind of study is so insulting and such a waste of money. I wonder if there's someplace, some sort of site, where we can EXPOSE this crap?? Hmmmmmm. Stay tuned! KS > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts blindfolded at typical > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? Idiots. > > > > _____ > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of > andrea52521991 > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > EOHarm > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > http://www.nzherald > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses permanently. > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women drinking > during pregnancy, a study says. > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says steps need > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum disorder as > well as provide support for affected families. > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. It is > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention deficit > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, we > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund comprehensive > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, with > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy was a > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as teenagers, > should be developed. They should also research the primary health > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive age > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive education. > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol use > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first antenatal > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where > needed. > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested numbers, with > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 births. > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater here > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women > drinking. > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, > diagnosis and support interventions. > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had no > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it. > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no programmes > had been developed but, without trained professionals to diagnose it, > it could not be accurately assessed. > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, was > intended to inform and guide the development of effective policy and > responses within the public sectors. > > - NZPA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Ø > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. It is > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention deficit > hyperactivity disorder and autism. Does this mention Autism somewhere? All it says is " fetal alcohol spectrum disorder " which is not the same as A.S.D. Fetal alcohol syndrome is a real concern, and pregnant moms shouldn't be drinking. I have no problem with this article... > > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses permanently. > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women drinking > during pregnancy, a study says. > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says steps need > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum disorder as > well as provide support for affected families. > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. It is > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention deficit > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, we > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund comprehensive > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, with > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy was a > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as teenagers, > should be developed. They should also research the primary health > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive age > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive education. > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol use > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first antenatal > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where > needed. > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested numbers, with > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 births. > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater here > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women > drinking. > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, > diagnosis and support interventions. > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had no > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it. > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no programmes > had been developed but, without trained professionals to diagnose it, > it could not be accurately assessed. > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, was > intended to inform and guide the development of effective policy and > responses within the public sectors. > > - NZPA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. You're not really implying that alcohol is safe for a developing fetus. Are you? > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts blindfolded > at typical > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On > Behalf Of > > andrea52521991 > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > EOHarm > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses permanently. > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > drinking > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says steps > need > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum disorder > as > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. It > is > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention deficit > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, we > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund comprehensive > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, > with > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy was a > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > teenagers, > > should be developed. They should also research the primary health > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive age > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive education. > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol use > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > antenatal > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where > > needed. > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested numbers, > with > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 > births. > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater here > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women > > drinking. > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had no > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it. > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no programmes > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to diagnose > it, > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, was > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective policy > and > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > - NZPA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Bones, Get your glasses checked... > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. It > is > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention deficit > > hyperactivity disorder and autism.(AUTISM-SEE, AUTISM,this is the word AUTISM A-U-T-I-S-M). I've had 4 glasses of wine this morning and I can see it clearly says autism. And just to be clear for those antagonists on EOH no I am not implying alcohol is safe for a developing fetus. I personally never touched a drop through my pregnancies. And I have seen children with fetal alcohol syndrome they are clearly not autistic. > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > blindfolded > > at typical > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of > > > andrea52521991 > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses permanently. > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > drinking > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says steps > > need > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > disorder > > as > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. > It > > is > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > deficit > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, > we > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund comprehensive > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, > > with > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy was > a > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > teenagers, > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > health > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive > age > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > education. > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol use > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > antenatal > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where > > > needed. > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested numbers, > > with > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 > > births. > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater > here > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women > > > drinking. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had > no > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it. > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > programmes > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > diagnose > > it, > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, > was > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective policy > > and > > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > > > - NZPA > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 The disorder (not the alcohol) is asscociated (not " causes " )with autism. ....One more thing, " (AUTISM-SEE, AUTISM,this is the word AUTISM A-U- T-I-S-M) " , and " Get your glasses checked... " is quite unnecessary and antagonistic. > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > > blindfolded > > > at typical > > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > andrea52521991 > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > > EOHarm > > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses > permanently. > > > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > > drinking > > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says > steps > > > need > > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > > disorder > > > as > > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. > > It > > > is > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > deficit > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, > > we > > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund > comprehensive > > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women > > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, > > > with > > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers > > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy > was > > a > > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > > teenagers, > > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > > health > > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive > > age > > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > > education. > > > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol > use > > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > > antenatal > > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was > > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested > numbers, > > > with > > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 > > > births. > > > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater > > here > > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women > > > > drinking. > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, > > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had > > no > > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it. > > > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > > programmes > > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > > diagnose > > > it, > > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New > > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, > > was > > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective > policy > > > and > > > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > > > > > - NZPA > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 , Don't waste your breath on this person. They are clearly not worth your time and energy. maurineandrea52521991 <mkeller@...> wrote: Bones,Get your glasses checked...> The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders.It> is> > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attentiondeficit> > hyperactivity disorder and autism.(AUTISM-SEE, AUTISM,this is the word AUTISM A-U-T-I-S-M).I've had 4 glasses of wine this morning and I can see it clearly says autism.And just to be clear for those antagonists on EOH no I am not implying alcohol is safe for a developing fetus. I personally never touched a drop through my pregnancies. And I have seen children with fetal alcohol syndrome they are clearly not autistic.> >> > >> > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > blindfolded > > at typical> > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? Idiots.> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of> > > andrea52521991> > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM> > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald> > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?> > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361>> > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study> > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007> > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses permanently. > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > drinking > > > during pregnancy, a study says.> > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says steps > > need > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > disorder > > as > > > well as provide support for affected families.> > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. > It > > is > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > deficit > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism.> > > > > > "With increasing drinking by women, young women in particular, > we > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund comprehensive > > > strategic action," Ms Rogan said.> > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of women > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was acceptable, > > with > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant.> > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant teenagers > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent.> > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy was > a > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action.> > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > teenagers, > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > health > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a reproductive > age > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > education.> > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol use > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > antenatal > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given where > > > needed.> > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome was > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested numbers, > > with > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant.> > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in 100 > > births.> > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be greater > here > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in women > > > drinking.> > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective prevention, > > > diagnosis and support interventions.> > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but had > no > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to it.> > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > programmes > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > diagnose > > it, > > > it could not be accurately assessed.> > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in New > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention Continuum, > was > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective policy > > and > > > responses within the public sectors.> > > > > > - NZPA> > >> >> Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Bones, You said: " I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. " I highlighted the part of the article that mentions autism. The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. > > It > > > is > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > deficit > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. Causation is implied- the word associated (a linking or a joining). I come on this list in good faith as a parent who is dealing with an autistic child. I make an effort to post things I think other parents would find interesting and informative. You have now twice insinuated a judgement by me for just posting something I found somewhere else. You are obviously trying to be antagonistic in your posting. You claim to be an uncle of a child with ASD, and have a neighbor or was it your sister has a neighbor with a kid on the spectrum? Not quite a realistic reason to be here, and posting as you do. I know you are frequently posting on the ND blog of Kev Leitch and as someone posted here yeserday, your presence here can be viewed as " hostile " . I don't know who you are buddy and really I don't care, but please go find better things to do than " f*ck " with parents of kids with autism, please.... > > The disorder (not the alcohol) is asscociated (not " causes " )with > autism. > > ...One more thing, " (AUTISM-SEE, AUTISM,this is the word AUTISM A-U- > T-I-S-M) " , and " Get your glasses checked... " is quite unnecessary > and antagonistic. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Bones, You said: " I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. " I highlighted the part of the article that mentions autism. The disorder causes birth defects and developmental disorders. > > It > > > is > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > deficit > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. Causation is implied- the word associated (a linking or a joining). I come on this list in good faith as a parent who is dealing with an autistic child. I make an effort to post things I think other parents would find interesting and informative. You have now twice insinuated a judgement by me for just posting something I found somewhere else. You are obviously trying to be antagonistic in your posting. You claim to be an uncle of a child with ASD, and have a neighbor or was it your sister has a neighbor with a kid on the spectrum? Not quite a realistic reason to be here, and posting as you do. I know you are frequently posting on the ND blog of Kev Leitch and as someone posted here yeserday, your presence here can be viewed as " hostile " . I don't know who you are buddy and really I don't care, but please go find better things to do than " f*ck " with parents of kids with autism, please.... > > The disorder (not the alcohol) is asscociated (not " causes " )with > autism. > > ...One more thing, " (AUTISM-SEE, AUTISM,this is the word AUTISM A-U- > T-I-S-M) " , and " Get your glasses checked... " is quite unnecessary > and antagonistic. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I missed the autism reference at first... until I clicked on the story itself, and it was mentioned. I did NOT get the impression that Kim or anyone else would imply that drinking during pregnancy was safe... more that you can't blame drinking for this epidemic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > > > blindfolded > > > > at typical > > > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? > Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] > On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > andrea52521991 > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > > > EOHarm > > > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses > > permanently. > > > > > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > > > drinking > > > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says > > steps > > > > need > > > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > > > disorder > > > > as > > > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental > disorders. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > > deficit > > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in > particular, > > > we > > > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund > > comprehensive > > > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of > women > > > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was > acceptable, > > > > with > > > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant > teenagers > > > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy > > was > > > a > > > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > > > teenagers, > > > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > > > health > > > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a > reproductive > > > age > > > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > > > education. > > > > > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol > > use > > > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > > > antenatal > > > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given > where > > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome > was > > > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested > > numbers, > > > > with > > > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in > 100 > > > > births. > > > > > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be > greater > > > here > > > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in > women > > > > > drinking. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective > prevention, > > > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but > had > > > no > > > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to > it. > > > > > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > > > programmes > > > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > > > diagnose > > > > it, > > > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in > New > > > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention > Continuum, > > > was > > > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective > > policy > > > > and > > > > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > > > > > > > - NZPA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I missed the autism reference at first... until I clicked on the story itself, and it was mentioned. I did NOT get the impression that Kim or anyone else would imply that drinking during pregnancy was safe... more that you can't blame drinking for this epidemic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > > > blindfolded > > > > at typical > > > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? > Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] > On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > andrea52521991 > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > > > EOHarm > > > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses > > permanently. > > > > > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > > > drinking > > > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says > > steps > > > > need > > > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > > > disorder > > > > as > > > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental > disorders. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > > deficit > > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in > particular, > > > we > > > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund > > comprehensive > > > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of > women > > > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was > acceptable, > > > > with > > > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant > teenagers > > > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy > > was > > > a > > > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > > > teenagers, > > > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > > > health > > > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a > reproductive > > > age > > > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > > > education. > > > > > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol > > use > > > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > > > antenatal > > > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given > where > > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome > was > > > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested > > numbers, > > > > with > > > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in > 100 > > > > births. > > > > > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be > greater > > > here > > > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in > women > > > > > drinking. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective > prevention, > > > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but > had > > > no > > > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to > it. > > > > > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > > > programmes > > > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > > > diagnose > > > > it, > > > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in > New > > > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention > Continuum, > > > was > > > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective > > policy > > > > and > > > > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > > > > > > > - NZPA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I think autism causes boozy Moms... --- " bones.0504 " <bones.0504@...> wrote: > I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. > > You're not really implying that alcohol is safe for > a developing > fetus. Are you? > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant > with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw > darts > blindfolded > > at typical > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one > stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm > [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of > > > andrea52521991 > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that > cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their > fetuses permanently. > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high > numbers of women > > drinking > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol > Healthwatch, says steps > > need > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol > spectrum > disorder > > as > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and > developmental disorders. > It > > is > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with > attention > deficit > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women > in particular, > we > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and > fund comprehensive > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per > cent of women > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy > was acceptable, > > with > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while > pregnant. > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of > pregnant teenagers > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking > during pregnancy was > a > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk > groups, such as > > teenagers, > > > should be developed. They should also research > the primary > health > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of > a reproductive > age > > > were getting and provide that sector with > comprehensive > education. > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened > for alcohol use > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as > during the first > > antenatal > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug > services given where > > > needed. > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with > the syndrome was > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence > suggested numbers, > > with > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to > affect one in 100 > > births. > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely > to be greater > here > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the > increase in women > > > drinking. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and > bounds ahead in > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing > effective prevention, > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the > syndrome but had > no > > > consistent policies and few financial resources > allocated to it. > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited > why no > programmes > > > had been developed but, without trained > professionals to > diagnose > > it, > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum > Disorder in New > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and > Intervention Continuum, > was > > > intended to inform and guide the development of > effective policy > > and > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I think autism causes boozy Moms... --- " bones.0504 " <bones.0504@...> wrote: > I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. > > You're not really implying that alcohol is safe for > a developing > fetus. Are you? > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant > with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw > darts > blindfolded > > at typical > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one > stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm > [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of > > > andrea52521991 > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that > cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their > fetuses permanently. > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high > numbers of women > > drinking > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol > Healthwatch, says steps > > need > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol > spectrum > disorder > > as > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and > developmental disorders. > It > > is > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with > attention > deficit > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women > in particular, > we > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and > fund comprehensive > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per > cent of women > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy > was acceptable, > > with > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while > pregnant. > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of > pregnant teenagers > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking > during pregnancy was > a > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk > groups, such as > > teenagers, > > > should be developed. They should also research > the primary > health > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of > a reproductive > age > > > were getting and provide that sector with > comprehensive > education. > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened > for alcohol use > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as > during the first > > antenatal > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug > services given where > > > needed. > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with > the syndrome was > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence > suggested numbers, > > with > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to > affect one in 100 > > births. > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely > to be greater > here > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the > increase in women > > > drinking. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and > bounds ahead in > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing > effective prevention, > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the > syndrome but had > no > > > consistent policies and few financial resources > allocated to it. > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited > why no > programmes > > > had been developed but, without trained > professionals to > diagnose > > it, > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum > Disorder in New > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and > Intervention Continuum, > was > > > intended to inform and guide the development of > effective policy > > and > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 This IS such a load of crap. I have not had a drink in over 16 years. I can't even drink wine because of the sufates and mold. My NT daughter, 15 is totally fine and of course a nine year old with autism, er, mercury poisoning.After reading this, I would love to be able to have a drink.RoxMs jo Conley <MMHJConley@...> wrote: I think autism causes boozy Moms... --- "bones.0504" <bones.0504 > wrote: > I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. > > You're not really implying that alcohol is safe for > a developing > fetus. Are you? > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant > with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw > darts > blindfolded > > at typical > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one > stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm > [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of > > > andrea52521991 > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that > cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > ..co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their > fetuses permanently. > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high > numbers of women > > drinking > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol > Healthwatch, says steps > > need > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol > spectrum > disorder > > as > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and > developmental disorders. > It > > is > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with > attention > deficit > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > "With increasing drinking by women, young women > in particular, > we > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and > fund comprehensive > > > strategic action," Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per > cent of women > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy > was acceptable, > > with > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while > pregnant. > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of > pregnant teenagers > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking > during pregnancy was > a > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk > groups, such as > > teenagers, > > > should be developed. They should also research > the primary > health > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of > a reproductive > age > > > were getting and provide that sector with > comprehensive > education. > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened > for alcohol use > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as > during the first > > antenatal > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug > services given where > > > needed. > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with > the syndrome was > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence > suggested numbers, > > with > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to > affect one in 100 > > births. > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely > to be greater > here > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the > increase in women > > > drinking. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and > bounds ahead in > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing > effective prevention, > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the > syndrome but had > no > > > consistent policies and few financial resources > allocated to it. > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited > why no > programmes > > > had been developed but, without trained > professionals to > diagnose > > it, > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum > Disorder in New > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and > Intervention Continuum, > was > > > intended to inform and guide the development of > effective policy > > and > === message truncated === __________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 This IS such a load of crap. I have not had a drink in over 16 years. I can't even drink wine because of the sufates and mold. My NT daughter, 15 is totally fine and of course a nine year old with autism, er, mercury poisoning.After reading this, I would love to be able to have a drink.RoxMs jo Conley <MMHJConley@...> wrote: I think autism causes boozy Moms... --- "bones.0504" <bones.0504 > wrote: > I didn't see anything regarding ASD in that. > > You're not really implying that alcohol is safe for > a developing > fetus. Are you? > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant > with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw > darts > blindfolded > > at typical > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one > stick? Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm > [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of > > > andrea52521991 > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that > cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > ..co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their > fetuses permanently. > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high > numbers of women > > drinking > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol > Healthwatch, says steps > > need > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol > spectrum > disorder > > as > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and > developmental disorders. > It > > is > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with > attention > deficit > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > "With increasing drinking by women, young women > in particular, > we > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and > fund comprehensive > > > strategic action," Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per > cent of women > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy > was acceptable, > > with > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while > pregnant. > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of > pregnant teenagers > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking > during pregnancy was > a > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk > groups, such as > > teenagers, > > > should be developed. They should also research > the primary > health > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of > a reproductive > age > > > were getting and provide that sector with > comprehensive > education. > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened > for alcohol use > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as > during the first > > antenatal > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug > services given where > > > needed. > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with > the syndrome was > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence > suggested numbers, > > with > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to > affect one in 100 > > births. > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely > to be greater > here > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the > increase in women > > > drinking. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and > bounds ahead in > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing > effective prevention, > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the > syndrome but had > no > > > consistent policies and few financial resources > allocated to it. > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited > why no > programmes > > > had been developed but, without trained > professionals to > diagnose > > it, > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum > Disorder in New > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and > Intervention Continuum, > was > > > intended to inform and guide the development of > effective policy > > and > === message truncated === __________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 You're not really implying that her concern for your eye health is antagonistic, are you? > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > > > blindfolded > > > > at typical > > > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? > Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] > On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > andrea52521991 > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > > > EOHarm > > > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses > > permanently. > > > > > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > > > drinking > > > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says > > steps > > > > need > > > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > > > disorder > > > > as > > > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental > disorders. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > > deficit > > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in > particular, > > > we > > > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund > > comprehensive > > > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of > women > > > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was > acceptable, > > > > with > > > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant > teenagers > > > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy > > was > > > a > > > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > > > teenagers, > > > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > > > health > > > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a > reproductive > > > age > > > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > > > education. > > > > > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol > > use > > > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > > > antenatal > > > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given > where > > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome > was > > > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested > > numbers, > > > > with > > > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in > 100 > > > > births. > > > > > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be > greater > > > here > > > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in > women > > > > > drinking. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective > prevention, > > > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but > had > > > no > > > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to > it. > > > > > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > > > programmes > > > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > > > diagnose > > > > it, > > > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in > New > > > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention > Continuum, > > > was > > > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective > > policy > > > > and > > > > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > > > > > > > - NZPA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 You're not really implying that her concern for your eye health is antagonistic, are you? > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, never had one drink while I was pregnant with Max. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do these people have a dartboard and just throw darts > > > blindfolded > > > > at typical > > > > > causes of diseases and see if they can make one stick? > Idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] > On > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > andrea52521991 > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:47 AM > > > > > EOHarm > > > > > Subject: Now it's boozing moms that cause autism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nzherald > > > > > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm? > > > > c_id=204 & objectid=10440361> > > > > > .co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204 & objectid=10440361 > > > > > > > > > > Action needed over drinking in pregnancy - study > > > > > > > > > > 5:00AM Friday May 18, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > Pregnant women who drink risk harming their fetuses > > permanently. > > > > > > > > > > Urgent action is needed to counter the high numbers of women > > > > drinking > > > > > during pregnancy, a study says. > > > > > > > > > > The study, by Rogan of Alcohol Healthwatch, says > > steps > > > > need > > > > > to be taken to prevent and treat foetal alcohol spectrum > > > disorder > > > > as > > > > > well as provide support for affected families. > > > > > > > > > > The disorder causes birth defects and developmental > disorders. > > > It > > > > is > > > > > difficult to diagnose and may be associated with attention > > > deficit > > > > > hyperactivity disorder and autism. > > > > > > > > > > " With increasing drinking by women, young women in > particular, > > > we > > > > > simply must get our heads out of the sand and fund > > comprehensive > > > > > strategic action, " Ms Rogan said. > > > > > > > > > > The study cited surveys, which suggested 50 per cent of > women > > > > > believed drinking some alcohol during pregnancy was > acceptable, > > > > with > > > > > 20 to 36 per cent of women drinking while pregnant. > > > > > > > > > > However, midwife reports said the number of pregnant > teenagers > > > > > drinking was closer to 80 per cent. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan's study said the level of drinking during pregnancy > > was > > > a > > > > > problem that required urgent nationwide action. > > > > > > > > > > Prevention programmes targeting high-risk groups, such as > > > > teenagers, > > > > > should be developed. They should also research the primary > > > health > > > > > sector to ascertain the level of advice women of a > reproductive > > > age > > > > > were getting and provide that sector with comprehensive > > > education. > > > > > > > > > > All women of reproductive age should be screened for alcohol > > use > > > > > regardless of pregnancy status, as well as during the first > > > > antenatal > > > > > visits, with referrals to alcohol and drug services given > where > > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > The study said the total number of people with the syndrome > was > > > > > difficult to calculate but anecdotal evidence suggested > > numbers, > > > > with > > > > > and without a diagnosis, were significant. > > > > > > > > > > It had also been conservatively estimated to affect one in > 100 > > > > births. > > > > > > > > > > However, the study said the numbers were likely to be > greater > > > here > > > > > because of the binge-drinking culture and the increase in > women > > > > > drinking. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said other countries were leaps and bounds ahead in > > > > > acknowledging the issue and implementing effective > prevention, > > > > > diagnosis and support interventions. > > > > > > > > > > New Zealand acknowledged the existence of the syndrome but > had > > > no > > > > > consistent policies and few financial resources allocated to > it. > > > > > > > > > > The study said a lack of evidence had been cited why no > > > programmes > > > > > had been developed but, without trained professionals to > > > diagnose > > > > it, > > > > > it could not be accurately assessed. > > > > > > > > > > Ms Rogan said the study, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder in > New > > > > > Zealand: Activating the Awareness and Intervention > Continuum, > > > was > > > > > intended to inform and guide the development of effective > > policy > > > > and > > > > > responses within the public sectors. > > > > > > > > > > - NZPA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hence, " Mom's Marguarita Night. " Gotta' have one once in a while - now that I'm not having any more babies! > > I think autism causes boozy Moms... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Precisely. Just look at the large amount of garbage that has come out in the last two weeks. For no other reason than June 11. > > I believe.. and just my honest opinion.. the june 11th trials are coming > up.. Lia > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Precisely. Just look at the large amount of garbage that has come out in the last two weeks. For no other reason than June 11. > > I believe.. and just my honest opinion.. the june 11th trials are coming > up.. Lia > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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