Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Excuse me I don't mean to offend, but the genetics in your neighborhood SUCKS!!!!! > His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). > His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has Asperger's. > And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. > > These children live within 2 blocks of one another. > > The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with autism. > > 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. > > Better diagnosis, my ass... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Excuse me I don't mean to offend, but the genetics in your neighborhood SUCKS!!!!! > His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). > His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has Asperger's. > And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. > > These children live within 2 blocks of one another. > > The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with autism. > > 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. > > Better diagnosis, my ass... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 There are 5 spectrum Kids within about 500 yards of my home. Two of them in special ed classrooms, One of them is in high school, one Aspie and my son (PDD; high functioning). We have lived here for less than 3 years, so there may be more that I don't know about. > > Excuse me I don't mean to offend, but the genetics in your neighborhood > SUCKS!!!!! > > > > > > His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). > > His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has Asperger's. > > And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. > > > > These children live within 2 blocks of one another. > > > > The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with > autism. > > > > 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. > > > > Better diagnosis, my ass... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 There are 5 spectrum Kids within about 500 yards of my home. Two of them in special ed classrooms, One of them is in high school, one Aspie and my son (PDD; high functioning). We have lived here for less than 3 years, so there may be more that I don't know about. > > Excuse me I don't mean to offend, but the genetics in your neighborhood > SUCKS!!!!! > > > > > > His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). > > His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has Asperger's. > > And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. > > > > These children live within 2 blocks of one another. > > > > The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with > autism. > > > > 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. > > > > Better diagnosis, my ass... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 5 autistic boys (including my son) in a 500 yard radius of our home. > > > > Excuse me I don't mean to offend, but the genetics in your > neighborhood > > SUCKS!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). > > > His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has > Asperger's. > > > And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. > > > > > > These children live within 2 blocks of one another. > > > > > > The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with > > autism. > > > > > > 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. > > > > > > Better diagnosis, my ass... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 5 autistic boys (including my son) in a 500 yard radius of our home. > > > > Excuse me I don't mean to offend, but the genetics in your > neighborhood > > SUCKS!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). > > > His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has > Asperger's. > > > And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. > > > > > > These children live within 2 blocks of one another. > > > > > > The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with > > autism. > > > > > > 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. > > > > > > Better diagnosis, my ass... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 When are the animals going to stop poisoning the babies? Better Diagnosis, My Arse So, Saturday afternoon I come in the house after a trip to the store to find my husband on the phone with a panicked look on his face. "You have to take this, Jul", he says slowly as he covers the mouth of the phone and passes it to me with two hands. "What's wrong?" I ask panicked. "Is someone dead?" "No, just take it. It's Debbie. They think has Autism." Debbie is my 9 year old son's best friend's mother. We've been friends for several years. , her youngest, is 17 months old. He's not talking, he's not walking. He shakes his head back and forth, back and forth. He just recently started crawling in a circle over and over, like he's a dog chasing his tail. "I just don't understand it," she says near tears. "None of this stuff happened until recently. I mean he's been slow, but he's been fine. I can't believe this. It took everything in me not to drive over to your house and show up on your door step in tears." "How recently?", I asked cautiously. "Before or after the high pitched screaming episode you told me about following his most recent shots?" Apparently a few weeks ago, after the MMR, DTaP and Polio in one visit, had a high fever (accompanied by lumps at the injection sites) that had him up the whole night crying and screaming. Silence. "Oh, my God. It was right after. Oh, my God." Silence. Debbie is an emergency room nurse at one of the top hospitals in Chicago. We finished the conversation. They are going for a hearing test, an EEG, and a developmental exam next week. If is diagnosed with Autism, then the following will be true for my 9 year old son: His sister has PDD-NOS(recovering nicely). His other good friend, Mikey's 11 year old brother has Asperger's. And his best friend 's baby brother now may have Autism. These children live within 2 blocks of one another. The same neighborhood where I grew up, where I knew no one with autism. 3 friends with 3 siblings who have Autism in 2 blocks. Better diagnosis, my ass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Let me see if I have this correct. Twenty years ago autism struck 1:10,000. Two weeks ago the CDC comes out and says the autism rates are now 1:150. That's a significant change from the 1:166 they have been preaching the past few years. But it's not an increase, and it's not an epidemic? Would some CDC or IOM lurker please explain to us at what point do these numbers become an EPIDEMIC? I think we really need to establish the correct threshold. Last Sunday, on the premier investigative journalism show on TV, an epidemiologist tells the world that there is NO EPIDEMIC OF AUTISM. It's a simple case of making the autism spectrum wider to include more cases that were previously ignored, misdiagnosed, or deemed not worthy enough for inclusion. Riiiight. When the numbers were 1:10,000 those children and adults with autism were easy to overlook. Most were locked away. Not anymore. We're out here in your face, and we are not going away. No matter how wide you expand the criteria, or redefine the diagnosis. You cannot hide from 1:150. They will find you. One child in one hundred and fifty on the spectrum, and one child in 5 or 6 with neurological damage is way beyond the scope of epidemiology or genetics This is a catastrophic increase and CAUSATION must be addressed. Using data sets in a computer program is NOT the way to research causation. And genetics cannot entirely explain these numbers either. Biology must be implicated and thoroughly examined in this as well. In my opinion the epidemiologists have been at the heart of this controversy since it surfaced. The epidemiologists denying the science are indeed disingenuous. They often manipulate the numbers to show a preordained outcome. That is not science. That is deception. For reference see the infamous Denmark study, or the minutes from the Simpsonwood meeting. The numbers have been cooked. It happens every day in business, and government. I think it's defined as obfuscation, or maybe "spin". It is certainly dishonest. The biological science from the laboratories, on the other hand, appears definitive and often indisputable. A link between autism and thimerosal appears to be biologically plausible, according to the IOM. The multiple additives put into vaccines are often acutely toxic at levels much lower than anyone had ever tested them for. If there ever was any testing. The synergistic effect they have on each other also appears to increase their lethal effects, according to Boyd Haley. I believe he DID the science. Can you honestly tell us that these toxic substances need to be injected into any human body? I would like to see the USP Biological Test results for thimerosal. I would also appreciate the USP testing on each of the additives used in vaccines. I can't wait to see the Acute Systemic Toxicity results. How many mice will survive? Come on. Show us these results. Show us the real science. Let us see the lab results. USP testing is simple and relatively inexpensive. There are independent labs all over the country that do this every day. The government and the pharmaceutical industry have not shown the results of any toxicity studies. Why? Boyd Haley believes you can't even design a study to prove the safety of thimerosal. Based on my extensive conversations with industrial chemists and medial device manufactures I am forced to agree with him. Pediatricians and pharmaceutical companies are the only ones who think this stuff is safe and lobby for it's continued usage. How stupid is that? Meanwhile Dr. Burbacher shows the lethal effects of tiny amounts of thimerosal on primates. How simply scientific of him. In my opinion, that's the science we need to be looking at. Not computer science. You're looking in the wrong department. Go over to the biology building on campus. While we are at it, let's study the real effects of tripling the number of mandated vaccines in such a short period of time, and yes 20 years is a SHORT period of time. It seems the FDA did not adequately allow for proper studies on the cumulative effects on an infant's developing systems of all these injections. To the casual observer it raises many questions. To the father of three, who watched his normally developing son regress into silence and a host of BIOLOGICAL disorders as a direct result of assault by too many vaccines attacking his little body, it answers a lot of the questions. This was nothing more than shoddy work done by pharmaceutical corporations and dismal oversight by the FDA to fast track vaccines into the mandated schedule. It's a trend that repeats itself with other drugs as well. We have a list of drugs that have been rushed to market only to be recalled later when they are found to cause serious side effects, like frequent death. Are we to believe the same companies that won't do their homework on the pills they tell us to pop, should be trusted when they tell us the vaccines the make are safe? How stupid is that? For all the thimerosal, aluminum and multiple vaccine apologists as well as the epidemiologists. Keep it up. Your credibility is diminishing every time you open your mouths. If all you've got to back you up is a stack of manipulated computer printouts, you've already lost. If you want to find the real cause of autism, start looking in the laboratory and not in the courtroom,or the used car lot. Harry H. Check out free AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Dr. Goodman knows the literature and the science of epidemics and he has concluded that there's no data to support an epidemic of autism. He is not alone in this conclusion. There is a consensus among epidemiologists that autism rates are not increasing. Calling Dr. Goodman a used car salesman and inferring that he's disingenuous fails to counter the findings from a scientific discipline that has a long and accurate history of tracking down the causes of disease. The only reason to vilify the fellow is because his findings are inconsistent with the theory that thimerosal is to blame for autism. It may be that he's wrong about this. If so, the flaws in his work will be found and his reputation will suffer. But if he's right, then isn't it a great relief to know that something tragically preventable like the preservative in vaccines was not the cause of our children's disorder? Wouldn't it then be helpful to focus energy on finding the real cause of autism? Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on 60 minutes tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just better and a broader diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're supposed to believe him. He looked sincere. He sounded like he was sincere. My 21 yo daughter said he sounded like a used car salesman. Harry H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Yes, there's no autism epidemic, there was no holocaust, my children are not being treated like Ford Pintos, the Tobacco guys were innocent, pure Oxygen pumped into preemies isolettes did not cause blindness, pregnant women taking DES in the '50s did not cause uterine cancer in female children. . . .. . . . . >From: hhofher@... >Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Re: Better Diagnosis, My Arse >Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:35:35 EST > >Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on 60 minutes >tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just better and a >broader >diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're supposed to believe him. He looked >sincere. He sounded like he was sincere. My 21 yo daughter said he sounded >like >a used car salesman. > >Harry H. _________________________________________________________________ http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 And we can all be thankful that Rhodopsin1appears not to be a shill. Re: Better Diagnosis, My Arse>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:35:35 EST>>Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on 60 minutes>tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just better and a >broader>diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're supposed to believe him. He looked>sincere. He sounded like he was sincere. My 21 yo daughter said he sounded >like>a used car salesman.>>Harry H.__________________________________________________________http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 " Wouldn't it then be helpful to focus energy on finding the real cause of autism " ? As a quiz, let's just see here. So, what would your best guess be for potential " real causes " if thimerosal is in fact NOT a factor. A) TV watching and older fathers. Other possible triggers such as aluminum, formaldehyde, Viral issues (from vaccines or otherwise), some combination of the previous? Etc, etc... Just curious > > Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on 60 > minutes tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just > better and a broader diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're supposed > to believe him. He looked sincere. He sounded like he was sincere. > My 21 yo daughter said he sounded like a used car salesman. > > Harry H. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 n EOHarm , " McDonough " <kevntimmcd@...> wrote: What part of this do you not understand. Response: The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car salesman. It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the thimerosal theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Can't I just say something really stupid, really damaging and designed to mislead and just leave it at that? Why do you have to challenge me? Re: Better Diagnosis, My Arse n EOHarm , " McDonough" <kevntimmcd@...> wrote:What part of this do you not understand.Response:The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car salesman. It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the thimerosal theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Everyone on this list is aware that current popular epidemiology does not support the Thimerosal Theory. Thank you for sharing but I can't help but hum " Taps " and " Revellry " (sp.?) at the same time while typing this. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say to you nicely. >From: " rhodopsin1 " <rhodopsin1@...> >Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Re: Better Diagnosis, My Arse >Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:03:05 -0000 > >n EOHarm , " McDonough " <kevntimmcd@...> wrote: >What part of this do you not understand. > >Response: >The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute >certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. > >Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and >concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism >epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car >salesman. > >It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the >thimerosal theory. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Refi Now: Rates near 39yr lows! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-17727 & moid=7581 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 LOL! > What part of this do you not understand. > > Response: > The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute > certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. > > Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and > concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism > epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car > salesman. > > It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the > thimerosal theory. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Y? because we love you.....M-O-U-S-EEEEEEEEEEEE! From: H <stratpat@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Better Diagnosis, My ArseDate: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:10:16 -0500 Can't I just say something really stupid, really damaging and designed to mislead and just leave it at that? Why do you have to challenge me? Re: Better Diagnosis, My Arse n EOHarm , " McDonough" <kevntimmcd@...> wrote:What part of this do you not understand.Response:The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car salesman. It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the thimerosal theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 celiacdaughter, You know very well what the cause is because the " experts " have spoken, and proclaimed it to be defective genes - you know, the " autism " gene(s). Never mind that the rates of autism have skyrocketed over the past 20 years - the " experts " have also told us that there isn't an increase in autism. Why should you be so difficult to convince? These are all very ethical " experts " with very high integrity who would never ever consider doing anything nefarious with the DATA. What is wrong with your " belief " system that you can't be brainwashed into believing the " experts " ? Seriously though, the " belief " system that has worked so well for so long is crumbling in all areas of life around the blue marble, and the conscious people want unadulterated facts and TRUTH. What else can the dark forces due but to keep spinning tales of deceit with their DATA. > > > > Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on > 60 > > minutes tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just > > better and a broader diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're > supposed > > to believe him. He looked sincere. He sounded like he was > sincere. > > My 21 yo daughter said he sounded like a used car salesman. > > > > Harry H. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 If you look at that fancy suit Dr. Goodman appears to have gotten for using his professionalism and reputation as a shill for the vaccine deniers and you compare it with the suit worn by the Wizard of Oz in the original MGM classic, I think we have found a duplicate- all the way down waist size. Re: Better Diagnosis, My Arse celiacdaughter,You know very well what the cause is because the "experts" have spoken, and proclaimed it to be defective genes - you know, the "autism" gene(s). Never mind that the rates of autism have skyrocketed over the past 20 years - the "experts" have also told us that there isn't an increase in autism. Why should you be so difficult to convince? These are all very ethical "experts" with very high integrity who would never ever consider doing anything nefarious with the DATA. What is wrong with your "belief" system that you can't be brainwashed into believing the "experts"? Seriously though, the "belief" system that has worked so well for so long is crumbling in all areas of life around the blue marble, and the conscious people want unadulterated facts and TRUTH. What else can the dark forces due but to keep spinning tales of deceit with their DATA. > > > > Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on > 60 > > minutes tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just > > better and a broader diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're > supposed > > to believe him. He looked sincere. He sounded like he was > sincere. > > My 21 yo daughter said he sounded like a used car salesman. > > > > Harry H.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Great - And could you find me an epidemiologist without a serious conflict of interest that would say that? > What part of this do you not understand. > > Response: > The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute > certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. > > Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and > concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism > epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car > salesman. > > It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the > thimerosal theory. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Dear rhodopsin1, why are you a member of this list? thnx, Heidi From: "rhodopsin1" <rhodopsin1@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Better Diagnosis, My ArseDate: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:09:26 -0000 Dr. Goodman knows the literature and the science of epidemics and he has concluded that there's no data to support an epidemic of autism. He is not alone in this conclusion. There is a consensus among epidemiologists that autism rates are not increasing. Calling Dr. Goodman a used car salesman and inferring that he's disingenuous fails to counter the findings from a scientific discipline that has a long and accurate history of tracking down the causes of disease. The only reason to vilify the fellow is because his findings are inconsistent with the theory that thimerosal is to blame for autism. It may be that he's wrong about this. If so, the flaws in his work will be found and his reputation will suffer. But if he's right, then isn't it a great relief to know that something tragically preventable like the preservative in vaccines was not the cause of our children's disorder? Wouldn't it then be helpful to focus energy on finding the real cause of autism? Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on 60 minutes tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just better and a broader diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're supposed to believe him. He looked sincere. He sounded like he was sincere. My 21 yo daughter said he sounded like a used car salesman. Harry H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 OK, can Dr. Goodman show us what evidence he is relying upon. I would like to see it. Now. My husband is a scientist with a strong epidemiological background, and he could fairly evaluate it. Get me this guy's email address so my husband can talk to him. It seems that his evidence would need to consist of data to show that in the 80s (or whatever dataset he is comparing to today's data), there was an enormous contingent of autistic children who were labelled something else. Dr. Goodman should be able to PROVE to us that these children 1) do in fact have autism, and 2) were in fact given the wrong " label " . These individuals who were misidentified should be REALLY EASY to find. Even high functioning autistic children do not recover on their own and will be dependent on society as adults. In the 1980's, almost NO child who HAD AUTISM who was identified with something else, would today be a functional independent individual. Even 90% of Asperger's individuals are unemployed. OK, so show us the data. Show us these individuals. Don't just talk about " evidence " without showing it to us. Jenna > What part of this do you not understand. > > Response: > The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute > certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. > > Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and > concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism > epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car > salesman. > > It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the > thimerosal theory. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 I for one am really glad you believe there is no autism epidemic. I have noticed that all the discussion groups and doctor's offices treating children biomedically have gotten really crowded in the past year and I count my blessings that you are one less person to crowd things up. > What part of this do you not understand. > > Response: > The part I don't understand is all the name calling and absolute > certainty that mercury is to blame for autism. > > Steve Goodman and other epidemiologists have looked at the data and > concluded that there's nothing compelling to support an autism > epidemic. That doesn't make him a shill or a jerk or a used-car > salesman. > > It just means he and others have found evidence that doesn't fit the > thimerosal theory. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 > > > OK, can Dr. Goodman show us what evidence he is relying upon. Yes, it's freely available for download as a PDF file. Go to the Institute of Medicine's site and read the report " Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Too bad I didn't save the rude and crass email I received from him; I'd love to share it with all on this list. I think you're wasting your time trying to convince the knowledgeable and dedicated parents on this list that mercury, particularly thimerosal, has not contributed to the autism epidemic. We all know that epidemilogical evidence doesn't hold water in a court of law. I have corresponded with an actuary and statistician who is known for his work in the U.S. insurance industry who told me, " The studies used to exonerate thimerosal in the autism epidemic are complete garbage and would never be acceptable in my industry. " We are all familiar with the lab and clinical science that supports our claim that thimerosal injured our kids. Many of us have the urine toxic metal reports showing that mercury is pouring out of our kids after we chelate. We have all read the MSDS for thimerosal, the transcripts from the Simpsonwood Meeting, and " Mercury in Medicine - Taking Unnecessary Risks " . Please ask Dr. Goodman why the VSD data is not available so that the Verstraeten study can be replicated. Also, ask him why the AAP changed the wording when reporting the results of the Denmark study (we have FOIA documents confirming that it was reported that autism rates " decreased " when thimerosal was removed in Denmark, yet the AAP used the word " increased " in their reporting of the study results.) > > Hey, didn't you guys hear that well dressed professional man on 60 > minutes tell the world there is no autism epidemic? Isn't it just > better and a broader diagnosis? What's wrong with us? We're supposed > to believe him. He looked sincere. He sounded like he was sincere. > My 21 yo daughter said he sounded like a used car salesman. > > Harry H. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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