Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 > > ls coconut oil high phenol? Please advise......JennL Moderate salicylate, high amine http://www.zip.com.au/~ataraxy/Salic_03.txt Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 > Am also interested in expert opinion with respect to coconut oil. We do not use it for cooking but have just bought some Kirk's Castile Coco soap for my 4 yr ASD son. The soap formula contains no synthetic materials it contains on Coconut Soap, Water, Vegetable Glycerin, Coconut Oil and Natural Fragrance.....would line advice on sutiability of this soap for ASD children. > > Andy/Kathleen/Dana et all - any expert views pls. I am not much of an expert in soaps. I would be careful of the natural fragrance if your child was phenol intolerance or chemically sensitive. Otherwise it looks okay to try. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 On 5/25/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote: <snip> > But, is it even so necessary that coconut oil be manufactured with > absolutely no heat to get all the benefits? I mean, places that grow > coconuts tend to have a high ambient temperature. This has always > confused me. Are you still reading? > B. I wonder the same thing. How hot must a coconut in the sun get on any given day? I'd bet 140 F at least. And that's day after day after day. So surely heating the ground meat to anything up to that for 24h or so wouldn't be doing any grave harm. Sometimes principles are just too principled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 whoops, hit send too soon: On 5/25/06, Furbish <efurbish@...> wrote: > On 5/25/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote: > <snip> > > But, is it even so necessary that coconut oil be manufactured with > > absolutely no heat to get all the benefits? I mean, places that grow > > coconuts tend to have a high ambient temperature. This has always > > confused me. Are you still reading? > > B. > > I wonder the same thing. How hot must a coconut in the sun get on any > given day? I'd bet 140 F at least. And that's day after day after > day. So surely heating the ground meat to anything up to that for 24h > or so wouldn't be doing any grave harm. > > Sometimes principles are just too principled? > > .... by which I mean to say that I think you're judging it in exactly the right way-- what tastes/smells/feels the best to you, not what someone's ideology tells you is right. What's more, I think the more your body has been exposed to good, nutritious foods the sounder or less distorted your instincts will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 --- In , " Furbish " <efurbish@...> wrote: > > Sometimes principles are just too principled? > ... by which I mean to say that I think you're judging it in exactly > the right way-- what tastes/smells/feels the best to you, not what > someone's ideology tells you is right. What's more, I think the more > your body has been exposed to good, nutritious foods the sounder or > less distorted your instincts will be. > , Let it be known--and widely--that I am hardly the arbiter of vco quality; although I do use more vco than most. It may well be that my senses are corrupt from all that potentially heat-processed dreck I've been using, hehe, and I missed the, err, subtlety within the paraffin bouquet. I'll sample it again next week. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 >-----Original Message----- >From: >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of downwardog7 > >They, Aajonus and --have been to the Thai facility and overseen >the processing, so they are satisfied that this oil is ANH (absolutely >no heat, a new category in vco). That's funny because the guy I spoke to at Coconut Oil Supreme said that all coconut oils shipped to the US see high heat in transit. I think it's kept in large drums or something on ships that get heated up quite a bit (from the sun, I guess), according to this person. If that's true, then that would render the processing of these oils a fairly moot point (in terms of heat), other than the Mexicorganico, which is shipped by UPS trucks (although they can get pretty hot too!). Suze Fisher Web Design and Development http://www.allurecreative.com Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I think soil quality plays in as well, although I don't know how much. There are some coconut palms where I lived in Costa Rica that get their roots completely covered twice a day by seawater at high tide. The water from these nuts tastes just like seawater, with a little sweetness added. They taste very different that the trees that grow just 15 or 20 feet farther inland. I would guess the extra mineral content in those seawater-tasting cocos is definitely to be desired over the others. > > I was at the L.A. raw food buying club yesterday > and brought some samples of vco to do a little comparison test. > > Wetzel's " Blue Breeze " has a strong coconut aroma, which I like. > And Mexicorganico has a much milder aroma. Mexicorganico is my > favorite oil--there is just something delicious about it. Plus, I like > that it is relatively more local, being grown on this continent. > > Blue Breeze oil makes no claim on the label of being made without > heat, only that it uses an " old-world cold-pressed method " , which > sounds like huckster-speak for heat, to me, since, for me, images of > the old world bring up cooking fires. > > Now Mexicorganico has the word " RAW " printed right on the label, and > further, claims it is " truly raw...fresh coconut oil " on the website. > > Now the buying club is primarily an outreach/resource center for the > Aajonus/RAF community, so they are very particular about things being > raw/not subjected to *any* heat. > > , who operates the place, sniffed the Blue Breeze and said it was > toasted. That smell is a result of drying the coconut--with applied > heat, is the implication--which gives it that toasted coconut smell. > Good point. > > The Mexicorganico, he liked, though he said there was still a slight > aroma that made him suspicious, and wondered had I ever been to the > facility to observe the oil-making? Of course I hadn't! > > So next we busted out some of the Aajonus-approved, Thai- manufactured > oil, which is what they sell there--at $23/pint!--and sniffed it, too. > > He was right, that stuff was so devoid of coconut aroma it smelled > like--ick--paraffin! Was weird. ly, I didn't care for how it > felt on the skin either, at first--thought it felt greasy--but a short > time later, it was absorbed and unnoticeable. > > They, Aajonus and --have been to the Thai facility and overseen > the processing, so they are satisfied that this oil is ANH (absolutely > no heat, a new category in vco). > > did say he'd be interested in talking to/visiting the > Mexicorganico folks to find out more about their production method. > > What is this post about? Discussing coconut oils and what I've > learned about the different qualities. Hard as it is for me to > accept, it seems that the intoxicating aroma indicates the oil has > seen more heat. It's true that QFI oil--which is centrifuged at no > more than 78f, according to their website--has a very delicate aroma. > This is what Aajonus used to promote before venturing into the > business of vco himself. > > But, is it even so necessary that coconut oil be manufactured with > absolutely no heat to get all the benefits? I mean, places that grow > coconuts tend to have a high ambient temperature. This has always > confused me. Are you still reading? > B. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 > That's funny because the guy I spoke to at Coconut Oil Supreme said that all > coconut oils shipped to the US see high heat in transit. I think it's kept > in large drums or something on ships that get heated up quite a bit (from > the sun, I guess), according to this person. If that's true, then that would > render the processing of these oils a fairly moot point (in terms of heat)... Suze, Exactly! I'll throw THAT at next week and how much ya wanna bet he tells me it's shipped from Thailand in luxury, air-conditioned staterooms? Or they swim it here strapped to the backs of special courier-dolphins because Aajonus has an alliance with the dolphin king? B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 On 5/25/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote: > , who operates the place, sniffed the Blue Breeze and said it was > toasted. That smell is a result of drying the coconut--with applied > heat, is the implication--which gives it that toasted coconut smell. > Good point. > > The Mexicorganico, he liked, though he said there was still a slight > aroma that made him suspicious, and wondered had I ever been to the > facility to observe the oil-making? Of course I hadn't! > > So next we busted out some of the Aajonus-approved, Thai-manufactured > oil, which is what they sell there--at $23/pint!--and sniffed it, too. > > He was right, that stuff was so devoid of coconut aroma it smelled > like--ick--paraffin! Was weird. ly, I didn't care for how it > felt on the skin either, at first--thought it felt greasy--but a short > time later, it was absorbed and unnoticeable. > > They, Aajonus and --have been to the Thai facility and overseen > the processing, so they are satisfied that this oil is ANH (absolutely > no heat, a new category in vco). snip > But, is it even so necessary that coconut oil be manufactured with > absolutely no heat to get all the benefits? I mean, places that grow > coconuts tend to have a high ambient temperature. This has always > confused me. Are you still reading? > B. I'm not convinced that this ANH oil is really an improvement. After all, coconuts (including the oil in them) get fairly warm in nature. I personally like the fermented oil best because I think (though I haven't yet searched it out to prove it) that the traditional fermentation process enhances the value of the oil and I don't think there is a truly unheated coconut oil. Raw meat actually reaches temps higher than our body temps while still on the animal. Being raw doesn't necessarily mean an item has to see *no* heat. Maybe I'm thinking wrong about the whole subject (wouldn't be the first time) but this ANH approach strikes me more as a raw fetish rather than something that is genuinely beneficial. FWIW, -- You are a libertarian because " you're willing to tolerate anything that's peaceful, and you practice the principle of live and let live – opposing the initiation of force (violence) against anyone for any purpose. " The late Harry Browne Why You Are A Libertarian http://tinyurl.com/kha3m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 > That's funny because the guy I spoke to at Coconut Oil Supreme said that all > coconut oils shipped to the US see high heat in transit. I think it's kept > in large drums or something on ships that get heated up quite a bit (from > the sun, I guess), ------> Hahn, chapterleader's list and sells Nature's Blessing coconut oil, told me that oil is shipped in containers in the bottom of the boat so the temps are kept low. Of course then once it'a at port who knows what happens while it's waiting to be released. My concern would be the plastic coating the inside of food grade drums and heat. Needham (Mexicorganic's owner) told me the plastic problem is the reason he goes with glass for shipping. I've had a couple of long talks with him about his operation and was impressed with what he had to say. He's sun drys his coconut before handpressing. I also ordered a box of his limes to brix and they came out moderate high. His lime trees grow under the coconut trees so I would assume that his coco trees also brix this. Mexicorganics is my favorite with Nature's Blessing coming next. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I did a search for this and nothing came up. Do you have there website or phone number?? jafa Mexicorganics is my favorite with Nature's Blessing coming next. Lynn <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATOR:</B> Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 On 5/30/06, jafa wrote: > > I did a search for this and nothing came up. Do you have there website or > phone number?? > > jafa > > > > Mexicorganics is my favorite with Nature's Blessing coming next. > > Lynn > Mexicorganic: http://www.coconutoilorganics.com/ Steph -- http://www.PraiseMoves.com The Christian Alternative to Yoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 > > I did a search for this and nothing came up. Do you have there website or phone number?? > jafa, http://www.coconutoilorganics.com/ 330-288-0223 tb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 http://www.coconutoilorganics.com/prices.html I did a search for this and nothing came up. Do you have there website or phone number?? jafa Mexicorganics is my favorite with Nature's Blessing coming next. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 > I did a search for this and nothing came up. Do you have there website > or phone number?? > > jafa > ------> Here you go... mexicorganico@... 1-330-288-0223 (USA) 011-52-313-326-5936 (Mexico) Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Phil wrote: > > Does any one happen to know how coconut oil should be stored. Most oils require refridgeration and dark bottles/cupboard storage. Some coconut brands use clear glass and do not specify any special treatment, is this because there is not need? ==>Coconut oil is like most good unadulterated saturated fats. It does not get affected by heat and light, and it does not go rancid for up to 2 years at room temperature. That's why our grandmothers could keep a grease pot on the back of their stove forever. lol! But then they were only using lard and bacon grease. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 said:> > My mom does not have candida, she doesn't like to use coconut oil for > cooking? Mainly because the coconut taste bothers her. besides animal fats, is there any other good oil she can use? Hi - Are you aware that you can get coconut oil that is almost tasteless? I don't like the taste of coconut either. Tropical Traditions makes one that is tasteless and oh what a difference it makes! - p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 > > > Hi - Are you aware that you can get coconut oil that is almost > tasteless? I don't like the taste of coconut either. Tropical Traditions > makes one that is tasteless and oh what a difference it makes! - p > Penny, Which oil by Tropical Traditions is tasteless? I have bought their brand in the store and didn't care for the flavor - and it definitely had one. I also don't like the taste and texture of coconut oil and am always finding ways to hide it in things so I can't tell its there. Thanks! Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 > > Which oil by Tropical Traditions is tasteless? Hi Trisha, I think it's the expeller pressed version that is tasteless. Check the coconut oil file. I'm the one who pulled that info together and I know it's in there. jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 > Penny, Which oil by Tropical Traditions is tasteless? I have bought their brand in the store and didn't care for the flavor - and it definitely had one. I also don't like the taste and texture of coconut oil and am always finding ways to hide it in things so I can't tell its there. Thanks! Trish ====The " Organic Virgin Coconut " oil by Tropical Traditions (it has a black label) tastes like coconut. The one I prefer is " Expeller Pressed Coconut Oil " (white label). It apparently is every bit as nutritious and effective as the virgin - as their web site states, it's just a matter of personal preference. I'm not sure that I find any difference in the texture of liquid coconut oil as opposed to, say, olive oil. I don't like it in it's solid state either - reminds me too much of lard somehow - but liquid, I find it very easy to just drink by the tablespoon. = p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 > Penny, > Which oil by Tropical Traditions is tasteless? I have bought their brand in the store and didn't > care for the flavor - and it definitely had one. I also don't like the taste and texture of > coconut oil and am always finding ways to hide it in things so I can't tell its there. > > Thanks! > Trish ==>Trish, Omega Nutrition has a tasteless CO which I used for a couple of years, and it is not refined, etc. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hello Sue, For more information on sauerkraut see Bee's file titled, 'Lacto- Fermented Foods & Drinks'. For more information on coconut oil see Bee's file titled, 'Coconut Oil Benefits & Resources'. Hope this helps.:-) Debra NW <tauttodream@...> wrote: Does anyone know the reason to have saurkraut when beginning the diet? Is it an anti-fungal or a probiotic or neither? Also what is the importance of the coconut oil? Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hi Sue, Some people are very sensitive to the coconut oil and others are not. It is an individual thing that you will have to experiment with. Just start out very SLOW. Take as little as 1/4 tsp. at a time if you're worried and see how you do...then add a little more the next time and a little more after that. You'll eventually build a tolerance to it and in time will be able to work up to the maintainance dose. We all get impatient and want to get rid of the yeast right now (!) but you've got to have patinece and allow your body to heal in its own time. enjoy the coconut oil! ) jackie > > i am concerned about beginning the coconut oil today > > I was on threelac for 3 months and had terrible die off from it the > entire time. I know the product works but not for me if i felt so bad > and couldnt move the dieoff. That is why i am scared to try the > coconut oil, but i ordered it anyway and it is coming today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 > > Bee, have you ever checked out _www.coconutoil-online.com_ > (http://www.coconutoil-online.com) ? I wonder what you think. Thanks. ==>Yes I have, and it's good if you purchase the right kind of coconut oil. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 It seems they only sell one kind. They talk about different types of coconut oil and how they are processed, but theirs is Coconut Oil Supreme, so I'm not sure what you mean by " buying the right kind. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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