Re: [Misplaced] Concerns of chelation therapy, autism

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> One possibility is that succimer, in the absence of lead, may disrupt

> the balance of such essential minerals as zinc and iron.

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> " These findings raise concerns about the use of chelating agents in

> treating autistic children, " said senior author Barbara Strupp.

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ok- so suppliment chelation with zinc and iron. was that so hard?

don't they take in account that all children who chelate also take

suppliments- unlike the rats.

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is there a way you can be tested for heavy metal exposure withoutr going through a doctor/? Is there a lab that will do it if you send off something? Does it have to be done with the approval of your local mainstream doc?

Ange

Re: [Misplaced] Concerns of chelation therapy, autism

One possibility is that succimer, in the absence of lead, may disrupt the balance of such essential minerals as zinc and iron."These findings raise concerns about the use of chelating agents in treating autistic children," said senior author Barbara Strupp.

ok- so suppliment chelation with zinc and iron. was that so hard?don't they take in account that all children who chelate also take suppliments- unlike the rats.

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Go to labbio.net - click on 'Autism' order the urinary porphyrins test.

They'll send the test kit directly to you within about 2 weeks. Return

it and you'll get the results in about 3 weeks. No doctor necessary.

Cost - approx $115.

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> is there a way you can be tested for heavy metal exposure withoutr

going through a doctor/? Is there a lab that will do it if you send

off something? Does it have to be done with the approval of your local

mainstream doc?

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>

> Ange

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The best way to test for Heavy Metal / Hg poisoning is the Urinary

Porphyrin Profile from Laboratoire de Biolgie Medicale in Paris,

France. To order a kit write: contact@.... This test looks at

the seven step heme biosynthesis pathway. Certain enzymes are inhibited

by different toxins. Number 5 and 6 are specific to mercury. You do not

need a perscription or doctor for this extremely accurate test. The

cost is $115.00 USA.

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> is there a way you can be tested for heavy metal exposure withoutr

going through a doctor/? Is there a lab that will do it if you send

off something? Does it have to be done with the approval of your local

mainstream doc?

>

>

> Ange

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This may be irrelevant, but does anyone know which products are

routinely used to remove thimerosal from vaccines prior to

distribution (leaving only 'trace' amounts)? Also, does a portion

of these 'chelating' agents remain in the final products that are

used?

Thanks,

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> This may be irrelevant, but does anyone know which products are

> routinely used to remove thimerosal from vaccines prior to

> distribution (leaving only 'trace' amounts)? Also, does a portion

> of these 'chelating' agents remain in the final products that are

> used?

>

> Thanks,

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I heard they centrifuge (spin it) out since it is after all a heavy

metal.

Charlie

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Great question

They actually use cysteine, a precursor to glutathione (it’s

the “C” in N.A.C.) to literally chelate the thimerosal from the

vaccine solution at the end of the production line. The thimerosal was in there

to protect sterility during manufacturing.

After that, the solution is centrifuged and somehow the

mercury that has bonded with cysteine is removed. This process, plus spillage

during the filling of single dose vials, means the company loses about 30% of

the vaccine, one reason that Hg free shots cost more.

Interesting that they use a chelator to remove mercury from

kids’ vaccines, but people scoff at using it to remove mercury from kids.

Some of the Hg has bonded so tightly with the viral proteins

in the vaccine itself that even cysteine won’t remove it. That is why

there is residual Hg in HepB, HiB and DTaP.

One that note, I wonder how vigilant the FDA really is at

testing lots for mercury content in these vaccines. It is supposed to be

<1mcg per dose. A friend of mine works for Pfizer and said the FDA would

never allow the Hg to exceed what is on the label. I hope he is right, but it

seems like a good idea to try to verify that.

DK

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I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that Thimerosal is added to vaccines as a preservative, and to help against bacterial contamination. They should not have to remove it from vaccines as it is not a necessary part of the vaccine. - Rickianpsmom <ianpsmom@...> wrote: This may be irrelevant, but does anyone know which products are routinely used to remove thimerosal from vaccines prior to distribution (leaving only 'trace' amounts)? Also, does a portion of these 'chelating' agents remain in the final

products that are used? Thanks, __________________________________________________

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the people who work for the Pharma companies have those devices from Star Trek implanted in their brains. you know the ones I mean, the one that causes intensive pain if they say anything against or questioning their employer. My brother AND my sis in law both work for Merck. Guess what topic never comes up during family get togethers?

From: " " <dkirby@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Re: [Misplaced] Concerns of chelation therapy, autismDate: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:02:02 -0500

Great question

They actually use cysteine, a precursor to glutathione (it’s the “C” in N.A.C.) to literally chelate the thimerosal from the vaccine solution at the end of the production line. The thimerosal was in there to protect sterility during manufacturing.

After that, the solution is centrifuged and somehow the mercury that has bonded with cysteine is removed. This process, plus spillage during the filling of single dose vials, means the company loses about 30% of the vaccine, one reason that Hg free shots cost more.

Interesting that they use a chelator to remove mercury from kids’ vaccines, but people scoff at using it to remove mercury from kids.

Some of the Hg has bonded so tightly with the viral proteins in the vaccine itself that even cysteine won’t remove it. That is why there is residual Hg in HepB, HiB and DTaP.

One that note, I wonder how vigilant the FDA really is at testing lots for mercury content in these vaccines. It is supposed to be <1mcg per dose. A friend of mine works for Pfizer and said the FDA would never allow the Hg to exceed what is on the label. I hope he is right, but it seems like a good idea to try to verify that.

DK

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I've got $50 for anyone who can get their hands on some vials to send

to DD or other independent lab for verification. Something tells me it

won't meet what they are saying is in there.

Debi

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> Great question

>

> They actually use cysteine, a precursor to glutathione (it's the " C " in

> N.A.C.) to literally chelate the thimerosal from the vaccine solution at

> the end of the production line. The thimerosal was in there to protect

> sterility during manufacturing.

>

> After that, the solution is centrifuged and somehow the mercury that has

> bonded with cysteine is removed. This process, plus spillage during the

> filling of single dose vials, means the company loses about 30% of the

> vaccine, one reason that Hg free shots cost more.

>

> Interesting that they use a chelator to remove mercury from kids'

> vaccines, but people scoff at using it to remove mercury from kids.

>

> Some of the Hg has bonded so tightly with the viral proteins in the

> vaccine itself that even cysteine won't remove it. That is why there is

> residual Hg in HepB, HiB and DTaP.

>

> One that note, I wonder how vigilant the FDA really is at testing lots

> for mercury content in these vaccines. It is supposed to be <1mcg per

> dose. A friend of mine works for Pfizer and said the FDA would never

> allow the Hg to exceed what is on the label. I hope he is right, but it

> seems like a good idea to try to verify that.

>

> DK

>

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I bet Merck is German for " a little mercury. " Ya?

Lenny

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You may very well be right!

From: "schaferatsprynet" <schafer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: [Misplaced] Concerns of chelation therapy, autismDate: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:11:54 -0000

I bet Merck is German for "a little mercury." Ya?Lenny

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I will ask our DAN doctors' office when we go in on Dec 22nd...

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> I've got $50 for anyone who can get their hands on some vials to send

> to DD or other independent lab for verification. Something tells me

it

> won't meet what they are saying is in there.

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Thanks.

Re: [Misplaced] Concerns of chelation therapy, autism

The best way to test for Heavy Metal / Hg poisoning is the Urinary Porphyrin Profile from Laboratoire de Biolgie Medicale in Paris, France. To order a kit write: contactlabbio (DOT) net. This test looks at the seven step heme biosynthesis pathway. Certain enzymes are inhibited by different toxins. Number 5 and 6 are specific to mercury. You do not need a perscription or doctor for this extremely accurate test. The cost is $115.00 USA.>> is there a way you can be tested for heavy metal exposure withoutr going through a doctor/? Is there a lab that will do it if you send off something? Does it have to be done with the approval of your local mainstream doc?> > > Ange

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Thanks.

Re: [Misplaced] Concerns of chelation therapy, autism

The best way to test for Heavy Metal / Hg poisoning is the Urinary Porphyrin Profile from Laboratoire de Biolgie Medicale in Paris, France. To order a kit write: contactlabbio (DOT) net. This test looks at the seven step heme biosynthesis pathway. Certain enzymes are inhibited by different toxins. Number 5 and 6 are specific to mercury. You do not need a perscription or doctor for this extremely accurate test. The cost is $115.00 USA.>> is there a way you can be tested for heavy metal exposure withoutr going through a doctor/? Is there a lab that will do it if you send off something? Does it have to be done with the approval of your local mainstream doc?> > > Ange