Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Posted October 17, 2006 Absolutely. Lincoln Weeps' - Bill Moyers, Get politicallty active our kids can't wait The only antidote to the pervasive corruption and the immense amount of money and media power that our opponents have is for the autism community to develop our own grassroots political organization. Parents who are not actively involved in autism politics are not serious about recovering their children. I am sure we all know parents who have witnessed huge inprovements in a friend's autistic child following the GFCF diet or some other intervention but they refuse to explore that option with their own child because they whine "it's too hard."Well, that applies accross the board when it comes to getting involved in autism politics. If you aren't avctively engaged then you are letting the lobbyists and the corrupt bureaucrats get away with their crimes. We cannot sit around waiting for others to do what needs to be done. If don't do it no one else will. Especially when their is a lot of money to be made working for the other side.You need to vote, you need to let candidates know what you think and you need to work with organizations like ACHAMP and others that are attempting to move the agenda forward.> >> > "There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > officials. Per month!"> > > > ______> > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php> > > > Lincoln Weeps> > Bill Moyers > > October 03, 2006> > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and the > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol Hill, I made > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned many times > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for a > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph and > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative revolution > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since Watergate.> > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln Memorial is > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating the words > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save the > union—> > his resolve that "government of, by, and for the people shall not > > perish from the earth." On this latest visit, I was overcome by a > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where those > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And those > people > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to pay their > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, either. Or > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company town, and > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed patrons.> > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known as "the > > people's house." No more. It belongs to K Street now. That's the > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. There > are > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 million > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. Per month!> > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to commit > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, and > with > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their hands > out. > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are the only > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of money from > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their behavior. > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time exploiting the > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior of DeLay > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks in the > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful Democrats in > the > > House bragged to reporters about tapping "uncharted donor fields > in > > the financial industry"—reminding them, not so subtlely, of the > > possibility that after November the majority leader just might be > a > > Democrat.> > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away with some > of > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We have > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with the > Bush > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that Karl > Rove > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and often > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been > forced > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its moral > > compass overboard.> > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to clean > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House kept > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark Foley—a > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding his > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay-Abramoff-> > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, > hoping > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being run by > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is > placebo.> > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is with > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > Congress > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean elections > and > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we > leave > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created by > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too late to > > save Lincoln's hope for "government of, by, and for the people."> > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives financial > support > > to TomPaine.com.> > > > _____> > > > Moyers on America> > 'Capital Crimes'> > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html> >> Quote
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Posted October 17, 2006 Absolutely. Lincoln Weeps' - Bill Moyers, Get politicallty active our kids can't wait The only antidote to the pervasive corruption and the immense amount of money and media power that our opponents have is for the autism community to develop our own grassroots political organization. Parents who are not actively involved in autism politics are not serious about recovering their children. I am sure we all know parents who have witnessed huge inprovements in a friend's autistic child following the GFCF diet or some other intervention but they refuse to explore that option with their own child because they whine "it's too hard."Well, that applies accross the board when it comes to getting involved in autism politics. If you aren't avctively engaged then you are letting the lobbyists and the corrupt bureaucrats get away with their crimes. We cannot sit around waiting for others to do what needs to be done. If don't do it no one else will. Especially when their is a lot of money to be made working for the other side.You need to vote, you need to let candidates know what you think and you need to work with organizations like ACHAMP and others that are attempting to move the agenda forward.> >> > "There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > officials. Per month!"> > > > ______> > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php> > > > Lincoln Weeps> > Bill Moyers > > October 03, 2006> > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and the > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol Hill, I made > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned many times > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for a > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph and > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative revolution > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since Watergate.> > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln Memorial is > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating the words > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save the > union—> > his resolve that "government of, by, and for the people shall not > > perish from the earth." On this latest visit, I was overcome by a > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where those > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And those > people > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to pay their > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, either. Or > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company town, and > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed patrons.> > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known as "the > > people's house." No more. It belongs to K Street now. That's the > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. There > are > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 million > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. Per month!> > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to commit > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, and > with > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their hands > out. > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are the only > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of money from > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their behavior. > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time exploiting the > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior of DeLay > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks in the > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful Democrats in > the > > House bragged to reporters about tapping "uncharted donor fields > in > > the financial industry"—reminding them, not so subtlely, of the > > possibility that after November the majority leader just might be > a > > Democrat.> > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away with some > of > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We have > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with the > Bush > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that Karl > Rove > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and often > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been > forced > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its moral > > compass overboard.> > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to clean > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House kept > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark Foley—a > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding his > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay-Abramoff-> > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, > hoping > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being run by > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is > placebo.> > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is with > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > Congress > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean elections > and > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we > leave > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created by > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too late to > > save Lincoln's hope for "government of, by, and for the people."> > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives financial > support > > to TomPaine.com.> > > > _____> > > > Moyers on America> > 'Capital Crimes'> > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html> >> Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 , Agree on 95% of what you've written.... But, I don't agree with your statement: " Parents who are not actively involved in autism politics are not serious about recovering their children " .... Not everyone has the capability to " work the politics " ....and there are many reasons why this is the case (remember the " 80% Single " thread?).... Personally, I've been rethinking my own involvement in " actively pursuing the politics " of this issue....because, quite frankly, my pursuit on this has TAKEN AWAY from my ability to focus 100% on recovering my son.... Last year, I made 10 separate trips to DC staying for an average of 2 days each time....now, anyone who knows the " expense " of staying at a DC hotel can tell you it isn't cheap!! Add cab fares, meals, etc and you get the overall picture that I'm painting.... Now granted, there are a lot of local and state issues that don't require that type of expense, but it still requires time and effort! I do the " politics " because truthfully, I feel like it's what I'm called to do....not everyone has the same " calling " ....and I don't think it's " fair " to think of them as " deficient parent(s) " if they are not involved... Bottom Line: To be " involved " is a choice that every individual must make based on their own life circumstances. Kelli > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > Bill Moyers > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and the > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol Hill, I > made > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned many > times > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for a > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph and > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > revolution > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since Watergate. > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln Memorial > is > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating the > words > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save the > > union— > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people shall > not > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was overcome by > a > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where those > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And those > > people > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to pay > their > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, either. > Or > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company town, and > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed patrons. > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known as " the > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. That's the > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. There > > are > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 > million > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. Per > month! > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to > commit > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, and > > with > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their hands > > out. > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are the > only > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of money from > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their behavior. > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time exploiting > the > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior of > DeLay > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks in the > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful Democrats in > > the > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted donor fields > > in > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, of the > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just might > be > > a > > > Democrat. > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away with > some > > of > > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We > have > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with the > > Bush > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that Karl > > Rove > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and > often > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been > > forced > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its > moral > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to > clean > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House > kept > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark Foley— > a > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding his > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay- > Abramoff- > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, > > hoping > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being run > by > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is > > placebo. > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is with > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > > Congress > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean elections > > and > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we > > leave > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created by > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too late > to > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the people. " > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives financial > > support > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 One doesn't have to do a lot to get involved. Until we have all of our kids 100% cured, it will take ALL parents to pressure the government to find the right treatment for ALL kids. The 1,000 or so of us here is a far cry from the 350,000 or so who should be demanding the truth and decent medical treatment. > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They > spend > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and the > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol Hill, I > > made > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned many > > times > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for a > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph and > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > revolution > > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since Watergate. > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln Memorial > > is > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating the > > words > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save the > > > union— > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people shall > > not > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was overcome > by > > a > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where > those > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And those > > > people > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to pay > > their > > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, either. > > Or > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company town, > and > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed > patrons. > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known > as " the > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. That's > the > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. > There > > > are > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 > > million > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. Per > > month! > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to > > commit > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, and > > > with > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their > hands > > > out. > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are the > > only > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of money > from > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > behavior. > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time exploiting > > the > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior of > > DeLay > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks in > the > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful Democrats > in > > > the > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted donor > fields > > > in > > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, of > the > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just might > > be > > > a > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away with > > some > > > of > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We > > have > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with > the > > > Bush > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that > Karl > > > Rove > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and > > often > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been > > > forced > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its > > moral > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to > > clean > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House > > kept > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark > Foley— > > a > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding > his > > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay- > > Abramoff- > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, > > > hoping > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being run > > by > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is with > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > > > Congress > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > elections > > > and > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we > > > leave > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real > > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created > by > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too late > > to > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the > people. " > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives financial > > > support > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 One doesn't have to do a lot to get involved. Until we have all of our kids 100% cured, it will take ALL parents to pressure the government to find the right treatment for ALL kids. The 1,000 or so of us here is a far cry from the 350,000 or so who should be demanding the truth and decent medical treatment. > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They > spend > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and the > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol Hill, I > > made > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned many > > times > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for a > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph and > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > revolution > > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since Watergate. > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln Memorial > > is > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating the > > words > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save the > > > union— > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people shall > > not > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was overcome > by > > a > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where > those > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And those > > > people > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to pay > > their > > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, either. > > Or > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company town, > and > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed > patrons. > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known > as " the > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. That's > the > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. > There > > > are > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 > > million > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. Per > > month! > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to > > commit > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, and > > > with > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their > hands > > > out. > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are the > > only > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of money > from > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > behavior. > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time exploiting > > the > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior of > > DeLay > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks in > the > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful Democrats > in > > > the > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted donor > fields > > > in > > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, of > the > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just might > > be > > > a > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away with > > some > > > of > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We > > have > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with > the > > > Bush > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that > Karl > > > Rove > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and > > often > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been > > > forced > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its > > moral > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to > > clean > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House > > kept > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark > Foley— > > a > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding > his > > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay- > > Abramoff- > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, > > > hoping > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being run > > by > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is with > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > > > Congress > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > elections > > > and > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we > > > leave > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real > > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created > by > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too late > > to > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the > people. " > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives financial > > > support > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 , Wishing it so and making it so are two totally different things.... Do I wish that 300,000 people would show up for a rally?? You bettcha! Do I think it's gonna happen? Not a chance! We're lucky to get several hundred (and that's a push) to attend. The fact of the matter is parents are busy taking care of their kids....and they don't need to be involved in the " political arena " to get the treatment they need for their children. Most of the funding for the " break-through " science is being done by the various private organizations. I could " quit " tomorrow (totally my choice) and still get the best treatment for Miles. And so going back to 's original statement: " Parents who are not actively involved in autism politics are not serious about recovering their children " .... Equating involvement in autism politics to how serious a parent is in recovering their child is a pretty insensitive statement, to say the least. And it's one that I would never think of bestowing upon another parent. Kelli > > > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They > > spend > > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and > the > > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol Hill, I > > > made > > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned many > > > times > > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for a > > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph > and > > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > > revolution > > > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since Watergate. > > > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln > Memorial > > > is > > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating the > > > words > > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save the > > > > union— > > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people shall > > > not > > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was overcome > > by > > > a > > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where > > those > > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And those > > > > people > > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to pay > > > their > > > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, > either. > > > Or > > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company town, > > and > > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed > > patrons. > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known > > as " the > > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. That's > > the > > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. > > There > > > > are > > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 > > > million > > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. Per > > > month! > > > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to > > > commit > > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, > and > > > > with > > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their > > hands > > > > out. > > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are the > > > only > > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of money > > from > > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > > behavior. > > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time exploiting > > > the > > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior of > > > DeLay > > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks in > > the > > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful Democrats > > in > > > > the > > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted donor > > fields > > > > in > > > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, of > > the > > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just > might > > > be > > > > a > > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined > > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away with > > > some > > > > of > > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We > > > have > > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with > > the > > > > Bush > > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that > > Karl > > > > Rove > > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and > > > often > > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been > > > > forced > > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its > > > moral > > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to > > > clean > > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House > > > kept > > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark > > Foley— > > > a > > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding > > his > > > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay- > > > Abramoff- > > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, > > > > hoping > > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being > run > > > by > > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is > > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is with > > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > > > > Congress > > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > > elections > > > > and > > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we > > > > leave > > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and > > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real > > > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created > > by > > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too > late > > > to > > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the > > people. " > > > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives financial > > > > support > > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 Sorry, Kelliann but you're absolutely wrong on this one. The only progress we have made is because of the dogged hard political work of parents. And the vast majority of kids are going to get no treatment at all because not enough parents are willing to get involved in the politics of their children's disease. And if you quit tomorrow and you could get the best treatment available for your child that's because I assume you can afford it. The vast majority of parents can't. And that is a political problem. We have a very limited arrray of modalities to treat our children's condition because there are zero dollars for research. And that's a political problem. The few doctors addressing our kid's problems always have to keep one eye on their backs becuase they never know when there funding will dry up, their licenses will be challenged or their hospital privileges suspended, or they might just literally get driven out of their country. And that is a political problem. So if parents want to do nothing and wait for education and research and treatments to fall from the sky like manna they are going to wait a very long time. As my friend Mike has aptly expressed the situation, If our kids are going to recover parents have to look after the three- legged stool, one leg is education, one leg is biomedical treatment and the other leg is political involvement to make the other two possible. All three are necessary Are some parents overwhelmed? No doubt. Are some parents lacking the knowledge of what to do, or the skills to execute what needs to be done in an effective way? Of course. But we as parents are the only people who are going to get what our children need and deserve. At the Seattle DAN I made a presentation on the necessity for parental involvement in politics. And I think there are some apt comparison in hisotry to where we are now. Here's one: In 1922 a rag-tag bunch of Irish freedom fighters forced the British Empire to give up control of Ireland after 500 years of colonial domination. Britain was still the largest richest, most powerful empire the world had every seen. They had the largest navy, one of the largest armies and unlimited money and media control. But that's not what mattered in the end. The Irish nationalists were better organized, had total commitment to their goals, and were just much smarter at politics than the British. They called themselves Sinn Fein, which in Irish means " We, Ourselves. " And I think this is exactly where we are are. We, the parents, ourselves must fight for our children, and only we will do it. We are up against Goliath. We must be faster, smarter and totally committed. And we need everybody in this community to participate because that is all we've got. > > > > > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They > > > spend > > > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing federal > > > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS and > > the > > > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol > Hill, I > > > > made > > > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned > many > > > > times > > > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming for > a > > > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph > > and > > > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > > > revolution > > > > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since > Watergate. > > > > > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln > > Memorial > > > > is > > > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating > the > > > > words > > > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to save > the > > > > > union— > > > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people > shall > > > > not > > > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was > overcome > > > by > > > > a > > > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city where > > > those > > > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And > those > > > > > people > > > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to > pay > > > > their > > > > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, > > either. > > > > Or > > > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company > town, > > > and > > > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed > > > patrons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known > > > as " the > > > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. > That's > > > the > > > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol Hill. > > > There > > > > > are > > > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend $200 > > > > million > > > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. > Per > > > > month! > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible to > > > > commit > > > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the take, > > and > > > > > with > > > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have their > > > hands > > > > > out. > > > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress are > the > > > > only > > > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of > money > > > from > > > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > > > behavior. > > > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time > exploiting > > > > the > > > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous behavior > of > > > > DeLay > > > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks > in > > > the > > > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful > Democrats > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted donor > > > fields > > > > > in > > > > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, > of > > > the > > > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just > > might > > > > be > > > > > a > > > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have > defined > > > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away > with > > > > some > > > > > of > > > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. > We > > > > have > > > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts > with > > > the > > > > > Bush > > > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and that > > > Karl > > > > > Rove > > > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors > and > > > > often > > > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have > been > > > > > forced > > > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown > its > > > > moral > > > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening > to > > > > clean > > > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the > House > > > > kept > > > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark > > > Foley— > > > > a > > > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and > holding > > > his > > > > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay- > > > > Abramoff- > > > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. > 7, > > > > > hoping > > > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is being > > run > > > > by > > > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform > is > > > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is > with > > > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of > > > > > Congress > > > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > > > elections > > > > > and > > > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If > we > > > > > leave > > > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed > and > > > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a > real > > > > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one > created > > > by > > > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too > > late > > > > to > > > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the > > > people. " > > > > > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives > financial > > > > > support > > > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 Kelli; Emailing your Senator to say " Dear Scumbag, Please fund treatment for my kid so he'll stop bashing holes in the wall with his head. " is something anyone can do. Putting the fact that doctors will just send you home from an Emergency Room and tell you they won't treat autism on a blog is easy. Writing about your success with treatment is also simple and also helps put the problem " out there " for anyone to see. Putting lunatics in their place on a blog who claim autistic kids don't need any cure is easy and fun. A few of us doing these simple things has no affect. We need to educate every parent to the fact that our kids were poisoned. We can't do that on a private group. We can be effective without all of us going to D.C. but, we need numbers and we need to have our story out in the public all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. > They > > > > spend > > > > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing > federal > > > > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS > and > > > the > > > > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and > Democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol > > Hill, I > > > > > made > > > > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned > > many > > > > > times > > > > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming > for > > a > > > > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph > > > > and > > > > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > > > > revolution > > > > > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since > > Watergate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln > > > Memorial > > > > > is > > > > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating > > the > > > > > words > > > > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to > save > > the > > > > > > union— > > > > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people > > shall > > > > > not > > > > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was > > overcome > > > > by > > > > > a > > > > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city > where > > > > those > > > > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And > > those > > > > > > people > > > > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to > > pay > > > > > their > > > > > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, > > > either. > > > > > Or > > > > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company > > town, > > > > and > > > > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed > > > > patrons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known > > > > as " the > > > > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. > > That's > > > > the > > > > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol > Hill. > > > > There > > > > > > are > > > > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > $200 > > > > > million > > > > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. > > Per > > > > > month! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible > to > > > > > commit > > > > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the > take, > > > and > > > > > > with > > > > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have > their > > > > hands > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress > are > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of > > money > > > > from > > > > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > > > > behavior. > > > > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time > > exploiting > > > > > the > > > > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous > behavior > > of > > > > > DeLay > > > > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful > > Democrats > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted > donor > > > > fields > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just > > > might > > > > > be > > > > > > a > > > > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have > > defined > > > > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away > > with > > > > > some > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in > Washington. > > We > > > > > have > > > > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts > > with > > > > the > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and > that > > > > Karl > > > > > > Rove > > > > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors > > and > > > > > often > > > > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have > > been > > > > > > forced > > > > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown > > its > > > > > moral > > > > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is > happening > > to > > > > > clean > > > > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the > > House > > > > > kept > > > > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. > Mark > > > > Foley— > > > > > a > > > > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and > > holding > > > > his > > > > > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the > DeLay- > > > > > Abramoff- > > > > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after > Nov. > > 7, > > > > > > hoping > > > > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is > being > > > run > > > > > by > > > > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform > > is > > > > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is > > with > > > > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members > of > > > > > > Congress > > > > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > > > > elections > > > > > > and > > > > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! > If > > we > > > > > > leave > > > > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed > > and > > > > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a > > real > > > > > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one > > created > > > > by > > > > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be > too > > > late > > > > > to > > > > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the > > > > people. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives > > financial > > > > > > support > > > > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 A-fucking-men!!!!!!!! From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Gilmore Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:52 AM EOHarm Subject: Re: Lincoln Weeps' - Bill Moyers, Get politicallty active our kids can't wait Sorry, Kelliann but you're absolutely wrong on this one. The only progress we have made is because of the dogged hard political work of parents. And the vast majority of kids are going to get no treatment at all because not enough parents are willing to get involved in the politics of their children's disease. And if you quit tomorrow and you could get the best treatment available for your child that's because I assume you can afford it. The vast majority of parents can't. And that is a political problem. We have a very limited arrray of modalities to treat our children's condition because there are zero dollars for research. And that's a political problem. The few doctors addressing our kid's problems always have to keep one eye on their backs becuase they never know when there funding will dry up, their licenses will be challenged or their hospital privileges suspended, or they might just literally get driven out of their country. And that is a political problem. So if parents want to do nothing and wait for education and research and treatments to fall from the sky like manna they are going to wait a very long time. As my friend Mike has aptly expressed the situation, If our kids are going to recover parents have to look after the three- legged stool, one leg is education, one leg is biomedical treatment and the other leg is political involvement to make the other two possible. All three are necessary Are some parents overwhelmed? No doubt. Are some parents lacking the knowledge of what to do, or the skills to execute what needs to be done in an effective way? Of course. But we as parents are the only people who are going to get what our children need and deserve. At the Seattle DAN I made a presentation on the necessity for parental involvement in politics. And I think there are some apt comparison in hisotry to where we are now. Here's one: In 1922 a rag-tag bunch of Irish freedom fighters forced the British Empire to give up control of Ireland after 500 years of colonial domination. Britain was still the largest richest, most powerful empire the world had every seen. They had the largest navy, one of the largest armies and unlimited money and media control. But that's not what mattered in the end. The Irish nationalists were better organized, had total commitment to their goals, and were just much smarter at politics than the British. They called themselves Sinn Fein, which in Irish means " We, Ourselves. " And I think this is exactly where we are are. We, the parents, ourselves must fight for our children, and only we will do it. We are up against Goliath. We must be faster, smarter and totally committed. And we need everybody in this community to participate because that is all we've got. Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 , How am I " absolutely WRONG " on this?? What do you think that I've been doing for the last 2 1/2 years?? Like I said before, I agree with 95% of what you've said. But HERE is the point that you're missing....even if I WASN'T doing what I'm doing, I would not be WRONG! (It never ceases to amaze me the way some folks on this list like to declare others " wrong " just because they don't agree with them on an issue, approach, etc.) What you and I are doing is OUR choice! And I, for one, am not going to tell another parent that if they are " not actively involved in autism politics they are not serious about recovering their children " .... Did you read 's post – 37993? When I read a post like that the first thing I do is cry. But after the cry, I am that much more determined to make sure that no other child will ever endures the pain that our children suffer. And so I continue the " fight " . Completely MY choice. Regarding …. I would be MORE than understanding if the only thing she wanted to " focus on " was her son. If she never " stepped foot " in the political arena (or any arena for that matter), that would be perfectly fine with me (like I have any CONTROL in that decision anyway). But, in her case, she CHOSE to do more. And personally, I stand in awe that she has " somehow " found the strength to contribute to this community by founding and directing a school for children with autism!! Actually, the fact that ANY of us is involved as much as we are on this issue is absolutely " astounding " to me! And so no, I'm not about to tell ANY parent that they MUST be involved in the political process and if they aren't, then they're making a WRONG choice! It's not my place. And, it's not your place either. A side note to some other comments on your post. First, and foremost, politics is NOT the ONLY way we have " made progress " on this issue. Some science that has been funded (Jill comes to mind) has led to some important treatment protocols for our children. Not ALL funding has a " political " connection. Some organizations have raised millions privately without any " political involvement " whatsoever. Second, you are wrong in assuming that I can " afford " all the best treatments for my son. My husband is retired military working on his engineering degree. And I am not employed at this time. So, IF I decide to " quit " it will be based on my need to get a job (real estate) so that I can focus some of my energy, time and money on my son. Are you going to declare me " not serious enough about recovering Miles " because of my " withdrawal " from the political arena? Cuz, at that point, I would definitely fall into your category. So, until I personally decide to " quit " , I am willing to " stand in the gap " for the parents who are unable (for whatever reason) to be politically active on this issue. Simple as that. Kelli > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. > They > > > > spend > > > > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing > federal > > > > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS > and > > > the > > > > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and > Democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol > > Hill, I > > > > > made > > > > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have returned > > many > > > > > times > > > > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming > for > > a > > > > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph > > > > and > > > > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > > > > revolution > > > > > > > into a racket—the biggest political scandal since > > Watergate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln > > > Memorial > > > > > is > > > > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently contemplating > > the > > > > > words > > > > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to > save > > the > > > > > > union— > > > > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the people > > shall > > > > > not > > > > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was > > overcome > > > > by > > > > > a > > > > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city > where > > > > those > > > > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. And > > those > > > > > > people > > > > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps to > > pay > > > > > their > > > > > > > respect to the martyred president—it's not their city, > > > either. > > > > > Or > > > > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company > > town, > > > > and > > > > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly endowed > > > > patrons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was known > > > > as " the > > > > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. > > That's > > > > the > > > > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol > Hill. > > > > There > > > > > > are > > > > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > $200 > > > > > million > > > > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal officials. > > Per > > > > > month! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's impossible > to > > > > > commit > > > > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the > take, > > > and > > > > > > with > > > > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have > their > > > > hands > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress > are > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of > > money > > > > from > > > > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > > > > behavior. > > > > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time > > exploiting > > > > > the > > > > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous > behavior > > of > > > > > DeLay > > > > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their necks > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful > > Democrats > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted > donor > > > > fields > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the financial industry " —reminding them, not so subtlely, > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader just > > > might > > > > > be > > > > > > a > > > > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have > > defined > > > > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get away > > with > > > > > some > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in > Washington. > > We > > > > > have > > > > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts > > with > > > > the > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and > that > > > > Karl > > > > > > Rove > > > > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his favors > > and > > > > > often > > > > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have > > been > > > > > > forced > > > > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown > > its > > > > > moral > > > > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is > happening > > to > > > > > clean > > > > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the > > House > > > > > kept > > > > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. > Mark > > > > Foley— > > > > > a > > > > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and > > holding > > > > his > > > > > > > seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the > DeLay- > > > > > Abramoff- > > > > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after > Nov. > > 7, > > > > > > hoping > > > > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is > being > > > run > > > > > by > > > > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform > > is > > > > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money is > > with > > > > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members > of > > > > > > Congress > > > > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > > > > elections > > > > > > and > > > > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! > If > > we > > > > > > leave > > > > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed > > and > > > > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a > > real > > > > > > > enstein of a system—a monster worse than the one > > created > > > > by > > > > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be > too > > > late > > > > > to > > > > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for the > > > > people. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives > > financial > > > > > > support > > > > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 har..har ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. > > They > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing > > federal > > > > > > > > officials. Per month! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > > > > > October 03, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and > > Democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol > > > Hill, I > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have > returned > > > many > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming > > for > > > a > > > > > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > > > > > revolution > > > > > > > > into a racket-the biggest political scandal since > > > Watergate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln > > > > Memorial > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently > contemplating > > > the > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to > > save > > > the > > > > > > > union- > > > > > > > > his resolve that " government of, by, and for the > people > > > shall > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > perish from the earth. " On this latest visit, I was > > > overcome > > > > > by > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city > > where > > > > > those > > > > > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. > And > > > those > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps > to > > > pay > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > respect to the martyred president-it's not their city, > > > > either. > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company > > > town, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly > endowed > > > > > patrons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was > known > > > > > as " the > > > > > > > > people's house. " No more. It belongs to K Street now. > > > That's > > > > > the > > > > > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol > > Hill. > > > > > There > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > > $200 > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal > officials. > > > Per > > > > > > month! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's > impossible > > to > > > > > > commit > > > > > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the > > take, > > > > and > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have > > their > > > > > hands > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress > > are > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of > > > money > > > > > from > > > > > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > > > > > behavior. > > > > > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time > > > exploiting > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous > > behavior > > > of > > > > > > DeLay > > > > > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their > necks > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful > > > Democrats > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping " uncharted > > donor > > > > > fields > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the financial industry " -reminding them, not so > subtlely, > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader > just > > > > might > > > > > > be > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > Democrat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have > > > defined > > > > > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get > away > > > with > > > > > > some > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in > > Washington. > > > We > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and > > that > > > > > Karl > > > > > > > Rove > > > > > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his > favors > > > and > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would > have > > > been > > > > > > > forced > > > > > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not > thrown > > > its > > > > > > moral > > > > > > > > compass overboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is > > happening > > > to > > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the > > > House > > > > > > kept > > > > > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. > > Mark > > > > > Foley- > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and > > > holding > > > > > his > > > > > > > > seat for the party-they are now trying to sweep the > > DeLay- > > > > > > Abramoff- > > > > > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after > > Nov. > > > 7, > > > > > > > hoping > > > > > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is > > being > > > > run > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about > reform > > > is > > > > > > > placebo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money > is > > > with > > > > > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what > members > > of > > > > > > > Congress > > > > > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > > > > > elections > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence-or > else! > > If > > > we > > > > > > > leave > > > > > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that > greed > > > and > > > > > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with > a > > > real > > > > > > > > enstein of a system-a monster worse than the one > > > created > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be > > too > > > > late > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > save Lincoln's hope for " government of, by, and for > the > > > > > people. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives > > > financial > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > to TomPaine.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moyers on America > > > > > > > > 'Capital Crimes' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 I'm praying next to Holly from now on!!!! > > A-fucking-men!!!!!!!! > > > > _____ > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of > Gilmore > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:52 AM > EOHarm > Subject: Re: Lincoln Weeps' - Bill Moyers, Get politicallty active > our kids can't wait > > > > > Sorry, Kelliann but you're absolutely wrong on this one. The only > progress we have made is because of the dogged hard political work > of parents. And the vast majority of kids are going to get no > treatment at all because not enough parents are willing to get > involved in the politics of their children's disease. > > And if you quit tomorrow and you could get the best treatment > available for your child that's because I assume you can afford it. > The vast majority of parents can't. And that is a political problem. > We have a very limited arrray of modalities to treat our children's > condition because there are zero dollars for research. And that's a > political problem. The few doctors addressing our kid's problems > always have to keep one eye on their backs becuase they never know > when there funding will dry up, their licenses will be challenged or > their hospital privileges suspended, or they might just literally > get driven out of their country. And that is a political problem. > > So if parents want to do nothing and wait for education and research > and treatments to fall from the sky like manna they are going to > wait a very long time. > > As my friend Mike has aptly expressed the situation, If our > kids are going to recover parents have to look after the three- > legged stool, one leg is education, one leg is biomedical treatment > and the other leg is political involvement to make the other two > possible. All three are necessary > > Are some parents overwhelmed? No doubt. Are some parents lacking the > knowledge of what to do, or the skills to execute what needs to be > done in an effective way? Of course. > > But we as parents are the only people who are going to get what our > children need and deserve. > > At the Seattle DAN I made a presentation on the necessity for > parental involvement in politics. And I think there are some apt > comparison in hisotry to where we are now. Here's one: > > In 1922 a rag-tag bunch of Irish freedom fighters forced the British > Empire to give up control of Ireland after 500 years of colonial > domination. Britain was still the largest richest, most powerful > empire the world had every seen. They had the largest navy, one of > the largest armies and unlimited money and media control. But that's > not what mattered in the end. The Irish nationalists were better > organized, had total commitment to their goals, and were just much > smarter at politics than the British. They called themselves Sinn > Fein, which in Irish means " We, Ourselves. " And I think this is > exactly where we are are. We, the parents, ourselves must fight for > our children, and only we will do it. > > We are up against Goliath. We must be faster, smarter and totally > committed. And we need everybody in this community to participate > because that is all we've got. > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 All in good fun! We understand and appreciate your efforts. Re: Lincoln Weeps' - Bill Moyers, Get politicallty active our kids can't wait har..har ;-)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > "There are 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. > > They > > > > > spend > > > > > > > > $200 million per month wining, dining and seducing > > federal > > > > > > > > officials. Per month!"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/03/lincoln_weeps.php> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lincoln Weeps> > > > > > > > Bill Moyers > > > > > > > > October 03, 2006> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Moyers is a veteran television journalist for PBS > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > president of the Schumann Center for Media and > > Democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1954, when I was a summer employee on Capitol > > > Hill, I > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > my first visit to the Lincoln Memorial. I have > returned > > > many > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > since, most recently while I was in Washington filming > > for > > > a > > > > > > > > documentary about how Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Ralph > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Grover Norquist, among others, turned the conservative > > > > > > revolution > > > > > > > > into a racket-the biggest political scandal since > > > Watergate.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If democracy can be said to have temples, the Lincoln > > > > Memorial > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > our most sacred. You stand there silently > contemplating > > > the > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > that gave voice to Lincoln's fierce determination to > > save > > > the > > > > > > > union-> > > > > > > > his resolve that "government of, by, and for the > people > > > shall > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > perish from the earth." On this latest visit, I was > > > overcome > > > > > by > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > sense of melancholy. Lincoln looks out now on a city > > where > > > > > those > > > > > > > > words are daily mocked. This is no longer his city. > And > > > those > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > from all walks of life making their way up the steps > to > > > pay > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > respect to the martyred president-it's not their city, > > > > either. > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > their government. This is an occupied city, a company > > > town, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > government is a subservient subsidiary of richly > endowed > > > > > patrons.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time the House of Representatives was > known > > > > > as "the > > > > > > > > people's house." No more. It belongs to K Street now. > > > That's > > > > > the > > > > > > > > address of the lobbyists who swarm all over Capitol > > Hill. > > > > > There > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > 65 lobbyists for every member of Congress. They spend > > $200 > > > > > > million > > > > > > > > per month wining, dining and seducing federal > officials. > > > Per > > > > > > month!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course they're just doing their job. It's > impossible > > to > > > > > > commit > > > > > > > > bribery, legal or otherwise, unless someone's on the > > take, > > > > and > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > campaign costs soaring, our politicians always have > > their > > > > > hands > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > One representative confessed that members of Congress > > are > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > people in the world expected to take large amounts of > > > money > > > > > from > > > > > > > > strangers and then act as if it has no effect on their > > > > > behavior. > > > > > > > > This explains why Democrats are having a hard time > > > exploiting > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > culture of corruption embodied in the scandalous > > behavior > > > of > > > > > > DeLay > > > > > > > > and Abramoff. Democrats are themselves up to their > necks > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > sludge. Just the other day one of the most powerful > > > Democrats > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > House bragged to reporters about tapping "uncharted > > donor > > > > > fields > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the financial industry"-reminding them, not so > subtlely, > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > possibility that after November the majority leader > just > > > > might > > > > > > be > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > Democrat.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to selling influence, both parties have > > > defined > > > > > > > > deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn't get > away > > > with > > > > > > some > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the things that pass for business as usual in > > Washington. > > > We > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > > Bush > > > > > > > > White House over the three years before his fall, and > > that > > > > > Karl > > > > > > > Rove > > > > > > > > and other presidential staff were treated to his > favors > > > and > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would > have > > > been > > > > > > > forced > > > > > > > > to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not > thrown > > > its > > > > > > moral > > > > > > > > compass overboard.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is > > happening > > > to > > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the > > > House > > > > > > kept > > > > > > > > secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. > > Mark > > > > > Foley-> > > > > > a > > > > > > > > cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and > > > holding > > > > > his > > > > > > > > seat for the party-they are now trying to sweep the > > DeLay-> > > > > > Abramoff-> > > > > > > > -and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after > > Nov. > > > 7, > > > > > > > hoping > > > > > > > > the public at large doesn't notice that the House is > > being > > > > run > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Tom DeLay's team, minus DeLay. All the talk about > reform > > > is > > > > > > > placebo.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only way to counter the power of organized money > is > > > with > > > > > > > > organized and outraged people. Believe me, what > members > > of > > > > > > > Congress > > > > > > > > fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean > > > > > elections > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > an end to the buying and selling of influence-or > else! > > If > > > we > > > > > > > leave > > > > > > > > it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that > greed > > > and > > > > > > > > chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with > a > > > real > > > > > > > > enstein of a system-a monster worse than the one > > > created > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be > > too > > > > late > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > save Lincoln's hope for "government of, by, and for > the > > > > > people."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Schumann Center for Media and Democracy gives > > > financial > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > to TomPaine.com.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moyers on America> > > > > > > > 'Capital Crimes'> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/capitol/index.html> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 I remember when I was in the Air Force Foreign Language Training in Monterey California and my oldest Brother thought he was being funny by sending me a unique postcard. On the front was a photo of a nuclear explosion and over the image it said, " TO KNOW AND NOT TO ACT, IS TO NOT YET KNOW " . I did not end up getting in trouble for that but neither have I ever forgot that saying. It is rather pointless to argue about political action, especially two people who are both politically active. In fact, if you are on this list it is because " YOU KNOW " and hence you are acting in some way. Anne Dachel writes to every writer of an Autism article in the entire nation, every single day, and each letter is specific to what was in their piece. This is often several detailed heartfelt letters every single day. That is something she can do, and she does it well. There are always going to be parents doing nothing. They are not helping their children recover, they are not politically active, they are unaware and uneducated about the issues and about the potential for their children. Their attitude is that they drew the short straw and at least the schools provide them with a few hours of respite care a day, but it doesn't matter what the schools are doing because they have believed their pediatricians from day one that there is " Nothing they can do, no treatments, and certainly no cures " . I attended Gilmore's lecture at the DAN conference and I like the approach of state-by-state organizing. I do believe we are talking about very different groups here. I personally feel for me " TO KNOW AND NOT TO ACT IS UNCONSCIONABLE " . Yes I am a single parent, I cannot travel to DC or rallies in Atlanta (unless someone is offering to help with the costs), but I fought to help win Insurance coverage here in Oregon, I have fought for my child's education helping parents coming behind me. I write and educate others every chance I get. That is what I am able to do. If everyone is not doing their 3 hours or more a month our movement is weaker. That is just a fact, the bottom line. Right or wrong, we grow in strength by numbers and action and are weaker by inaction and apathy. You don't have to fly to DC to make a difference, but you must act for your own child and the others coming up behind them. I have every excuse in the world to sit on my butt and let others take on this beast. I'm a single mom, I have no money, I have buried 3 dear loved ones in the last few years. 's law is fully functioning in my life. But I must act because this is no longer about me, nor even about my daughter. This has gone way past that, it is about saving our country and our own health and health choices. This is about pure unadulterated evil, and absolute corruption of power and greed. This is about the inborn drive to save and make a decent future for your own children and grandchildren. It is about discovering that this may only be the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the health of our children and our fellow citizens. But there is no argument here, " IF YOU KNOW, YOU MUST ACT " . There will always be those who don't know, never will know, and don't really care what they do or do not know. I don't think they are even being addressed here. Even if all you do is agree to distribute literature, or fax your congressmen, you must ACT. None of us have an easy road. Our children have the worst possible disease they could have to ask parents to then dedicate themselves to the cause, but that is exactly what we must do, no matter the struggles. That's why everyone must act, it makes it that much easier for everyone else, and whether those that never lift a finger are even grateful or even aware there is anything to be grateful about matters not to those who act. It is bigger than them and bigger than us. This cannot go unchallenged, the story cannot go untold. That is why everyone on this list as well as some others will never NOT act, despite the idle threats, because " WE KNOW " and what we know is so unbelievable, so scary, so evil, so detrimental to the very fabric of our nation and our existence, to not act is not a possibility. The crux is action, education, action, and education. Once parents learn the truth, that their child was poisoned with the full knowledge and permission of those that now deny culpability, they can do no less than act. Even if it is educating those around them, you cannot as a human being learn these truths and not act. Don't waste your words between two people " THAT KNOW " , but use those words as seeds to plant in those that still need to know. The action will grow from that knowledge. And anyone can impart knowledge to another. Kendra Quote
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Posted October 18, 2006 Kendra, You definitely have a " gift " for writing....I always enjoy reading your posts.... Kelli > > I remember when I was in the Air Force Foreign Language Training in > Monterey California and my oldest Brother thought he was being funny > by sending me a unique postcard. On the front was a photo of a > nuclear explosion and over the image it said, " TO KNOW AND NOT TO ACT, > IS TO NOT YET KNOW " . > I did not end up getting in trouble for that but neither have I ever > forgot that saying. > It is rather pointless to argue about political action, especially two > people who are both politically active. In fact, if you are on this > list it is because " YOU KNOW " and hence you are acting in some way. > Anne Dachel writes to every writer of an Autism article in the entire > nation, every single day, and each letter is specific to what was in > their piece. This is often several detailed heartfelt letters every > single day. That is something she can do, and she does it well. > There are always going to be parents doing nothing. They are not > helping their children recover, they are not politically active, they > are unaware and uneducated about the issues and about the potential > for their children. Their attitude is that they drew the short straw > and at least the schools provide them with a few hours of respite care > a day, but it doesn't matter what the schools are doing because they > have believed their pediatricians from day one that there is " Nothing > they can do, no treatments, and certainly no cures " . > I attended Gilmore's lecture at the DAN conference and I like the > approach of state-by-state organizing. I do believe we are talking > about very different groups here. I personally feel for me " TO KNOW > AND NOT TO ACT IS UNCONSCIONABLE " . Yes I am a single parent, I cannot > travel to DC or rallies in Atlanta (unless someone is offering to help > with the costs), but I fought to help win Insurance coverage here in > Oregon, I have fought for my child's education helping parents coming > behind me. I write and educate others every chance I get. That is > what I am able to do. If everyone is not doing their 3 hours or more > a month our movement is weaker. That is just a fact, the bottom > line. Right or wrong, we grow in strength by numbers and action and > are weaker by inaction and apathy. You don't have to fly to DC to > make a difference, but you must act for your own child and the others > coming up behind them. > I have every excuse in the world to sit on my butt and let others take > on this beast. I'm a single mom, I have no money, I have buried 3 > dear loved ones in the last few years. 's law is fully > functioning in my life. But I must act because this is no longer about > me, nor even about my daughter. This has gone way past that, it is > about saving our country and our own health and health choices. This > is about pure unadulterated evil, and absolute corruption of power and > greed. This is about the inborn drive to save and make a decent > future for your own children and grandchildren. It is about > discovering that this may only be the tip of the iceberg when it comes > to the health of our children and our fellow citizens. But there is > no argument here, " IF YOU KNOW, YOU MUST ACT " . There will always be > those who don't know, never will know, and don't really care what they > do or do not know. I don't think they are even being addressed here. > Even if all you do is agree to distribute literature, or fax your > congressmen, you must ACT. None of us have an easy road. Our > children have the worst possible disease they could have to ask > parents to then dedicate themselves to the cause, but that is exactly > what we must do, no matter the struggles. > That's why everyone must act, it makes it that much easier for > everyone else, and whether those that never lift a finger are even > grateful or even aware there is anything to be grateful about matters > not to those who act. It is bigger than them and bigger than us. This > cannot go unchallenged, the story cannot go untold. That is why > everyone on this list as well as some others will never NOT act, > despite the idle threats, because " WE KNOW " and what we know is so > unbelievable, so scary, so evil, so detrimental to the very fabric of > our nation and our existence, to not act is not a possibility. > The crux is action, education, action, and education. Once parents > learn the truth, that their child was poisoned with the full knowledge > and permission of those that now deny culpability, they can do no less > than act. Even if it is educating those around them, you cannot as a > human being learn these truths and not act. > Don't waste your words between two people " THAT KNOW " , but use those > words as seeds to plant in those that still need to know. The action > will grow from that knowledge. And anyone can impart knowledge to > another. > Kendra > Quote
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