Re: Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

June 23, 2006

This lack of sleep ‘connection’

added to the compost heap which includes autism being an extreme form of

male-ness, and thimerosal actually being good for you,

only serves to color these opposing forces

in shades of yellow and green.........cowardice and greed............Suzanne

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Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

June 22nd, 2006 @ 3:32pm

Ed Yeates Reporting

Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at all. In

fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the problem.

That's what some scientists are suggesting as Salt Lake's

national sleep conference winds to a close.

Lack of concentration, motor restlessness, irritability, excessive

impulsiveness, and learning problems. They're symptoms of autism - even

attention deficit, and hyperactivity.

But do all kids exhibiting these symptoms really have the disorders?

National researchers, meeting in Salt

Lake this week, believe

many may be sleep deprived. If so, they're misdiagnosed and placed on

stimulants like Ritalin for the wrong reason.

Dr. Sheldon/ Sleep Medicine Center,

Children's Memorial

Hospital: " So the

children who are sleepy and who are manifesting these symptoms may in fact

improve because the stimulant is treating the symptoms. "

Dr. Sheldon with Northwestern

University's Feinberg

School of Medicine says researchers see problems like this mirrored in kids who

are not getting enough sleep.

In some ways, Sheldon and his colleagues claim children are under a lot

more stress these days, and that artificial light may actually be disrupting

their sleep-wake cycles. "

TV's - but most especially, computer screens, and interactive video

games many - close up to the screen - play late into the evening.

Sheldon: " Is that in fact affecting their sleep-wake cycle, which

results in a delayed phase, so they have difficulty falling asleep, difficulty

waking up, so they're sleep deprived. "

Light stimulation at the wrong time, more after school activities and

demands, schools that start too early in the morning - perfect ingredients for

symptoms in kids we may be misconstruing for something else. Sheldon says more

research is needed.

Depending on each child's needs, researchers still recommend at least

eight hours of sleep.

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June 23, 2006

This is fascinating research! We are so stupid, it was right under

our noses the whole time. I cannot believe that we had it all

wrong.

So let me get this straight... It is the lack of sleep that causes

the autism not the autism that causes the lack of sleep. That's

BRILLIANT!!!

This is absolutely goundbreaking! These people should get an award

for outstanding medical journalism. This is just amazing. I am

going to run down and tell my wife right now, and make sure that my

kids are in bed. I do not want any autistic flare-ups tomorrow from

not getting any sleep!

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> Ed Yeates Reporting

> Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at

all. In fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the

problem.

> That's what some scientists are suggesting as Salt

Lake's national sleep conference winds to a close.

> Lack of concentration, motor restlessness, irritability,

excessive impulsiveness, and learning problems. They're symptoms

of autism - even attention deficit, and hyperactivity.

> But do all kids exhibiting these symptoms really have the

disorders? National researchers, meeting in Salt Lake this week,

believe many may be sleep deprived. If so, they're misdiagnosed

and placed on stimulants like Ritalin for the wrong reason.

> Dr. Sheldon/ Sleep Medicine Center, Children's Memorial

Hospital: " So the children who are sleepy and who are manifesting

these symptoms may in fact improve because the stimulant is

treating the symptoms. "

> Dr. Sheldon with Northwestern University's Feinberg

School of Medicine says researchers see problems like this mirrored

in kids who are not getting enough sleep.

> In some ways, Sheldon and his colleagues claim children are

under a lot more stress these days, and that artificial light may

actually be disrupting their sleep-wake cycles. "

> TV's - but most especially, computer screens, and interactive

video games many - close up to the screen - play late into the

evening.

> Sheldon: " Is that in fact affecting their sleep-wake cycle,

which results in a delayed phase, so they have difficulty falling

asleep, difficulty waking up, so they're sleep deprived. "

> Light stimulation at the wrong time, more after school

activities and demands, schools that start too early in the morning -

perfect ingredients for symptoms in kids we may be misconstruing

for something else. Sheldon says more research is needed.

> Depending on each child's needs, researchers still

recommend at least eight hours of sleep.

>

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Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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June 23, 2006

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You are 2 for 2 now!

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> > What will they come up with next?

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> Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

> > June 22nd, 2006 @ 3:32pm

> >

> > Ed Yeates Reporting

> > Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at

> all. In fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the

> problem.

> > That's what some scientists are suggesting as Salt

> Lake's national sleep conference winds to a close.

> > Lack of concentration, motor restlessness, irritability,

> excessive impulsiveness, and learning problems. They're symptoms

> of autism - even attention deficit, and hyperactivity.

> > But do all kids exhibiting these symptoms really have the

> disorders? National researchers, meeting in Salt Lake this week,

> believe many may be sleep deprived. If so, they're misdiagnosed

> and placed on stimulants like Ritalin for the wrong reason.

> > Dr. Sheldon/ Sleep Medicine Center, Children's Memorial

> Hospital: " So the children who are sleepy and who are manifesting

> these symptoms may in fact improve because the stimulant is

> treating the symptoms. "

> > Dr. Sheldon with Northwestern University's Feinberg

> School of Medicine says researchers see problems like this mirrored

> in kids who are not getting enough sleep.

> > In some ways, Sheldon and his colleagues claim children are

> under a lot more stress these days, and that artificial light may

> actually be disrupting their sleep-wake cycles. "

> > TV's - but most especially, computer screens, and interactive

> video games many - close up to the screen - play late into the

> evening.

> > Sheldon: " Is that in fact affecting their sleep-wake cycle,

> which results in a delayed phase, so they have difficulty falling

> asleep, difficulty waking up, so they're sleep deprived. "

> > Light stimulation at the wrong time, more after school

> activities and demands, schools that start too early in the morning -

> perfect ingredients for symptoms in kids we may be misconstruing

> for something else. Sheldon says more research is needed.

> > Depending on each child's needs, researchers still

> recommend at least eight hours of sleep.

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

> Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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June 23, 2006

I was wide awake for three days straight after hearing Shatner's 1960s rendition of Mr. Tambourine Man for the first time.

Re: Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

This is fascinating research! We are so stupid, it was right under our noses the whole time. I cannot believe that we had it all wrong. So let me get this straight... It is the lack of sleep that causes the autism not the autism that causes the lack of sleep. That's BRILLIANT!!!This is absolutely goundbreaking! These people should get an award for outstanding medical journalism. This is just amazing. I am going to run down and tell my wife right now, and make sure that my kids are in bed. I do not want any autistic flare-ups tomorrow from not getting any sleep!>> What will they come up with next?> > http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148 & sid=323418> > Local News> News / Local / Local Stories > > > > Policy >> > Comment Board > > > > 0> Comments > > > > > > > Home Page > News > Local > Local Stories > --> Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms> June 22nd, 2006 @ 3:32pm> > Ed Yeates Reporting > Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at all. In fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the problem. > That's what some scientists are suggesting as Salt Lake's national sleep conference winds to a close. > Lack of concentration, motor restlessness, irritability, excessive impulsiveness, and learning problems. They're symptoms of autism - even attention deficit, and hyperactivity. > But do all kids exhibiting these symptoms really have the disorders? National researchers, meeting in Salt Lake this week, believe many may be sleep deprived. If so, they're misdiagnosed and placed on stimulants like Ritalin for the wrong reason. > Dr. Sheldon/ Sleep Medicine Center, Children's Memorial Hospital: "So the children who are sleepy and who are manifesting these symptoms may in fact improve because the stimulant is treating the symptoms." > Dr. Sheldon with Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine says researchers see problems like this mirrored in kids who are not getting enough sleep. > In some ways, Sheldon and his colleagues claim children are under a lot more stress these days, and that artificial light may actually be disrupting their sleep-wake cycles." > TV's - but most especially, computer screens, and interactive video games many - close up to the screen - play late into the evening. > Sheldon: "Is that in fact affecting their sleep-wake cycle, which results in a delayed phase, so they have difficulty falling asleep, difficulty waking up, so they're sleep deprived." > Light stimulation at the wrong time, more after school activities and demands, schools that start too early in the morning -perfect ingredients for symptoms in kids we may be misconstruing for something else. Sheldon says more research is needed. > Depending on each child's needs, researchers still recommend at least eight hours of sleep. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.>

June 23, 2006

I am still waiting for someone, anyone to make more sense than this comment:

This condition known as autism needs to be taken out of DSM and we parents need to do this! The posters back in the LEAD days were "Why ny can't read"...and now it should be "Why ny can't talk"!

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/103606.html

Some things are just indelible in my mind. Your thoughts that Sunday evening are one of them.

Re: Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

You've got me thinking...this repetitive thing I do..googling andstaying up late, not getting 8 hours of sleep per night...hitting thesame keys, over and over, send, send, send..........> >> > ,> > > > You are 2 for 2 now!> >>

June 23, 2006

No offense meant :

I know you think you can handle it...just one more thought...

but some of you have been up too late and thinking too much and as a proud member of M.A.T.T. (Mothers Against Too much Thinking)

may I suggest you hand the keys (keyboard) over to

someone else and let them type for awhile?

--------- Re: Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

You've got me thinking...this repetitive thing I do..googling andstaying up late, not getting 8 hours of sleep per night...hitting thesame keys, over and over, send, send, send..........> >> > ,> > > > You are 2 for 2 now!> >>

June 23, 2006

> Ed Yeates Reporting

> Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at

> all. In fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the

> problem.

I was wondering if these was one of those " video news releases " or

fake news that's gov't/industry sends out to news stations. But it

looks like I was wrong- Ed Yeates has a distinguished career as a

film and newsmaker. Here at this link, you can see his life's work

in film listed: http://poll.imdb.com/name/nm1002225/

June 23, 2006

Strange. My son gets a full night's sleep and he still can't talk. Maybe I should make him stay in bed for 12 hours instead of 8-9. Carolyn

Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt

Toledo, Ohio, USA

visit http://www.asno.orghttp://www.webspawner.com/users/fitzenreiterfamily/index.html

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June 23, 2006

Just wanted to say that the experts are right about the lack of sleep

causing problems, just wrong in presenting this as the cause of

autism. There are huge numbers of sleep deprived kids in the U.S. and

it may indeed be one factor in ADHD diagnoses, for example.

Deborah

PS Any cause for autism will do as long as it isn't injected...

>

> Strange. My son gets a full night's sleep and he still can't talk.

Maybe I should make him stay in bed for 12 hours instead of 8-9.

> Carolyn

>

> Kurt, Carolyn, and Little Kurt

> Toledo, Ohio, USA

> visit http://www.asno.org

> http://www.webspawner.com/users/fitzenreiterfamily/index.html

>

June 23, 2006

Amazing! I've been waiting 26 years to discover this!

Barb

Re: Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

This is fascinating research! We are so stupid, it was right under our noses the whole time. I cannot believe that we had it all wrong. So let me get this straight... It is the lack of sleep that causes the autism not the autism that causes the lack of sleep. That's BRILLIANT!!!This is absolutely goundbreaking! These people should get an award for outstanding medical journalism. This is just amazing. I am going to run down and tell my wife right now, and make sure that my kids are in bed. I do not want any autistic flare-ups tomorrow from not getting any sleep!>> What will they come up with next?> > http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148 & sid=323418> > Local News> News / Local / Local Stories > > > > Policy >> > Comment Board > > > > 0> Comments > > > > > > > Home Page > News > Local > Local Stories > --> Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms> June 22nd, 2006 @ 3:32pm> > Ed Yeates Reporting > Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at all. In fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the problem. > That's what some scientists are suggesting as Salt Lake's national sleep conference winds to a close. > Lack of concentration, motor restlessness, irritability, excessive impulsiveness, and learning problems. They're symptoms of autism - even attention deficit, and hyperactivity. > But do all kids exhibiting these symptoms really have the disorders? National researchers, meeting in Salt Lake this week, believe many may be sleep deprived. If so, they're misdiagnosed and placed on stimulants like Ritalin for the wrong reason. > Dr. Sheldon/ Sleep Medicine Center, Children's Memorial Hospital: "So the children who are sleepy and who are manifesting these symptoms may in fact improve because the stimulant is treating the symptoms." > Dr. Sheldon with Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine says researchers see problems like this mirrored in kids who are not getting enough sleep. > In some ways, Sheldon and his colleagues claim children are under a lot more stress these days, and that artificial light may actually be disrupting their sleep-wake cycles." > TV's - but most especially, computer screens, and interactive video games many - close up to the screen - play late into the evening. > Sheldon: "Is that in fact affecting their sleep-wake cycle, which results in a delayed phase, so they have difficulty falling asleep, difficulty waking up, so they're sleep deprived." > Light stimulation at the wrong time, more after school activities and demands, schools that start too early in the morning -perfect ingredients for symptoms in kids we may be misconstruing for something else. Sheldon says more research is needed. > Depending on each child's needs, researchers still recommend at least eight hours of sleep. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.>

June 26, 2006

and listmates,

This is the bottom line allowing all these silly hypothesis studies: We must get autism out of the psychiatric umbrella and give it the correct medical diagnosis: immune dysregulation, heavy metal toxicity, hepatic encephalopathy...Iatrogenic neurological syndrome: should be treated medicallyunder insurance coverage before ABA rehab can help! Where and how can we begin this reclassification? Thanks. Ada.

ps Regardless of genetic understanding, the medical establishment treats cancer, diabetes,

alcoholism, drug addiction, arthritis...at least the emerging debilitating symptoms are addressed. Why do our children have to settle for a complete genetic perspective? This is discriminatory and serves to jerk us around and around! This is exactly what happens to the mentally ill population, resulting in zero recovery, and plenty of pharma profits.

June 26, 2006

What will they come up with next, when they realize that some kids diagnosed with autism/ASD/PDD do sleep cerca 8-10 hours per night, and still exhibit the same problemmatic signs/symptoms? Lack of sleep was a biggie when my kids were younger, and it affected me too, since I had to circulate with the non-sleepers throughout the night. In those years, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and/or chronic fatigue syndrome, and could not sleep when I wanted/needed to. Now, we all sleep through the night just fine but the ASD issues remain for my youngest son, and we all know that they have nothing to do with the amount of time he spends sleeping. Sheldon makes a good point...there are probably too many kids being prescribed sleep medications when they can do without them. However, I can't understand the "leap" to declaring that lack of sleep can bring on "autistic-like" signs or symptoms, especially when the media seems to want

to make more of this statement than it merits. Was this something Sheldon came up with, or was it concocted by the person who was reporting on what he said? Aasa scottshoe11 <shoemaker@...> wrote: This is fascinating research! We are so stupid, it was right under our noses the whole time. I cannot believe that we had it all wrong. So let me get this straight... It is the lack of sleep that causes the autism not the autism that causes the lack of sleep. That's

BRILLIANT!!!This is absolutely goundbreaking! These people should get an award for outstanding medical journalism. This is just amazing. I am going to run down and tell my wife right now, and make sure that my kids are in bed. I do not want any autistic flare-ups tomorrow from not getting any sleep!>> What will they come up with next?> > http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148 & sid=323418> > Local News> News / Local / Local Stories > > > > Policy >> > Comment Board > > > > 0> Comments > > > > > > > Home Page > News > Local > Local Stories > --> Experts:

Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms> June 22nd, 2006 @ 3:32pm> > Ed Yeates Reporting > Some kids with symptoms of autism may not have the disorder at all. In fact, a lack of sleep may be what's really causing the problem. > That's what some scientists are suggesting as Salt Lake's national sleep conference winds to a close. > Lack of concentration, motor restlessness, irritability, excessive impulsiveness, and learning problems. They're symptoms of autism - even attention deficit, and hyperactivity. > But do all kids exhibiting these symptoms really have the disorders? National researchers, meeting in Salt Lake this week, believe many may be sleep deprived. If so, they're misdiagnosed and placed on stimulants like Ritalin for the wrong reason. > Dr. Sheldon/ Sleep Medicine Center, Children's Memorial Hospital: "So the children who are sleepy and who are

manifesting these symptoms may in fact improve because the stimulant is treating the symptoms." > Dr. Sheldon with Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine says researchers see problems like this mirrored in kids who are not getting enough sleep. > In some ways, Sheldon and his colleagues claim children are under a lot more stress these days, and that artificial light may actually be disrupting their sleep-wake cycles." > TV's - but most especially, computer screens, and interactive video games many - close up to the screen - play late into the evening. > Sheldon: "Is that in fact affecting their sleep-wake cycle, which results in a delayed phase, so they have difficulty falling asleep, difficulty waking up, so they're sleep deprived." > Light stimulation at the wrong time, more after school activities and demands, schools that start too early in the morning -perfect

ingredients for symptoms in kids we may be misconstruing for something else. Sheldon says more research is needed. > Depending on each child's needs, researchers still recommend at least eight hours of sleep. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.>

June 26, 2006

Kerbob..have you been waiting 2 years for an explanation of why johnny

can't talk??

Is this a real question..or rhetorical as I cannot tell on " computer

conversations " ?

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June 26, 2006

Wait..I think I misread as it sounds like you are agreeing and I thank

you, if that is what you meant.

Glad someone reads my posts even from 2 years ago..

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> > > > You are 2 for 2 now!

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June 26, 2006

No, I have not been waiting two years for an explanation.

When one steps back and looks at the big picture your comment makes complete sense.

Re: Experts: Lack of Sleep May Produce Autism-Like Symptoms

Kerbob..have you been waiting 2 years for an explanation of why johnnycan't talk??Is this a real question..or rhetorical as I cannot tell on "computerconversations"?> > >> > > ,> > > > > > You are 2 for 2 now!> > >> >>

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