Re: Imus/Frist Saga Continues

[Guest guest]

>Please listen carefully to Frist's comments on the Senate floor. He

said these children are BORN WITH AUTISM. He is trying to cover his

ass and protect his precious vaccine market.

> OK people I'll admit I am addicted to Imus in the morning!

> Here is what he said a few minute ago.

>

> His wife along with Bob and Suzanne went to Washington on

Wed.

> to speak with some sentors regarding the Combatting Autism Act.

Turns

> out a meeting with Sen Bill Frist turned into what Imus described

as

> a " CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM LARRY DAVID BIT " . Sen. FRist was

complaining to

> Mrs. Imus about how her husband talks badly about him (FRist) and

how

> unfair he is in what he says....Anyways, Imus talked about all this

on

> his show yesterday.

>

> Turns out Sen Frist, after their meeting, went out on the Senate

floor

> and made some kind of statement about autism (Imus read it). IMO it

was

> a piss poor stereotypical summary of what autism is, but he ended

by

> saying he will support the autism portion of the children's health

bill.

>

> Mrs. Imus than called Sen Frist and Imus described them as having a

> very spirited converstaion and Sen. Frist apologized about 19 times

for

> what happened while they had met in Washington.

>

> So, Imus basically gave Frist " props " for all that.

>

> Of course we know what a low life snake in the grass Dr. Bill has

been

> so I'm very skeptical.

>

> Would love to get to read his statement he made.

>

> Does anyone know how to get it? Can we?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Who cares what Frist said? Of course he is going to paint autism as

some horrible awful thing from birth on. How many times has he tried

to get " secret " legislation through to block us from seeking

retribution for our damaged children? Of course he hasn't changed his

tune.

Imus is playing it smart. He is giving the guy the benefit of the

doubt. His wife has become a major crusader for our kids. Hell, Dr.

Frist gave her 15 mintues of his time on the phone yesterday

apologizing profusely for the fact he is an ass! No matter what Imus

will know if Frist is lying and deceiving and working behind the

scenes to undermine what the Combatting Autism Act is supposed to be

about- getting to the truth. If and when he double crosses the

Imus's, he'll never hear the end of it! Imus has the forum to expose

him and his BS. Imus has a slew of senators, reps and media people on

his show constantly. He'll never shut up about it! He'll discuss it

with everyone!

First, Frist must be given the opportunity to change his ways, be

true to his word (which BTW I don't believe he is capable of). Time

will tell.

What's the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

>

> He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

children won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know

what that is leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a

cure and try all these unproven things like chelation which

won't " work " because mercury doesn't cause autism.

> At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has in

the past.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Who cares what Frist said? Of course he is going to paint autism as

some horrible awful thing from birth on. How many times has he tried

to get " secret " legislation through to block us from seeking

retribution for our damaged children? Of course he hasn't changed his

tune.

Imus is playing it smart. He is giving the guy the benefit of the

doubt. His wife has become a major crusader for our kids. Hell, Dr.

Frist gave her 15 mintues of his time on the phone yesterday

apologizing profusely for the fact he is an ass! No matter what Imus

will know if Frist is lying and deceiving and working behind the

scenes to undermine what the Combatting Autism Act is supposed to be

about- getting to the truth. If and when he double crosses the

Imus's, he'll never hear the end of it! Imus has the forum to expose

him and his BS. Imus has a slew of senators, reps and media people on

his show constantly. He'll never shut up about it! He'll discuss it

with everyone!

First, Frist must be given the opportunity to change his ways, be

true to his word (which BTW I don't believe he is capable of). Time

will tell.

What's the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

>

> He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

children won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know

what that is leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a

cure and try all these unproven things like chelation which

won't " work " because mercury doesn't cause autism.

> At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has in

the past.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Who cares what Frist said? Of course he is going to paint autism as

some horrible awful thing from birth on. How many times has he tried

to get " secret " legislation through to block us from seeking

retribution for our damaged children? Of course he hasn't changed his

tune.

Imus is playing it smart. He is giving the guy the benefit of the

doubt. His wife has become a major crusader for our kids. Hell, Dr.

Frist gave her 15 mintues of his time on the phone yesterday

apologizing profusely for the fact he is an ass! No matter what Imus

will know if Frist is lying and deceiving and working behind the

scenes to undermine what the Combatting Autism Act is supposed to be

about- getting to the truth. If and when he double crosses the

Imus's, he'll never hear the end of it! Imus has the forum to expose

him and his BS. Imus has a slew of senators, reps and media people on

his show constantly. He'll never shut up about it! He'll discuss it

with everyone!

First, Frist must be given the opportunity to change his ways, be

true to his word (which BTW I don't believe he is capable of). Time

will tell.

What's the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

>

> He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

children won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know

what that is leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a

cure and try all these unproven things like chelation which

won't " work " because mercury doesn't cause autism.

> At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has in

the past.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> He also said that these parents get discouraged because their children

> won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact.

Who stated the above? Frist or Imus?

On Mar 3, 2006, at 8:56 AM, wrote:

> He also said that these parents get discouraged because their children

> won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what that is

> leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure and try

> all these unproven things like chelation which won't " work " because

> mercury doesn't cause autism.

> At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has in the

> past.

[Guest guest]

Here is a link to the speech Frist gave on the Senate floor.

http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?

FuseAction=Speeches.Detail & Speech_id=341 & Month=3 & Year=2006

>

> > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

children

> > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what

that is

> > leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure and

try

> > all these unproven things like chelation which won't " work "

because

> > mercury doesn't cause autism.

> > At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has

in the

> > past.

>

[Guest guest]

I believe it was Frist in his speech on the Senate floor. Imus

quickly read what Frist said on the show this morning. It was

something that sounded like it came from a text book twenty years

ago, very stereo-typical. No known cause, no known

cure....Heartbreaking mystery...

>

> > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

children

> > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what

that is

> > leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure and

try

> > all these unproven things like chelation which won't " work "

because

> > mercury doesn't cause autism.

> > At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has in

the

> > past.

>

[Guest guest]

went to this link? Then which is it?timothybooton <timothybooton@...> wrote: Here is a link to the speech Frist gave on the Senate floor.http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Speeches.Detail & Speech_id=341 & Month=3 & Year=2006--- In EOHarm , " J. Krakow" <rkrakow@...> wrote:>> > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their children > > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact.> > Who stated the above? Frist or Imus?> > > On Mar 3, 2006, at 8:56 AM, wrote:> > > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their children > > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what

that is > > leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure and try > > all these unproven things like chelation which won't "work" because > > mercury doesn't cause autism.> > At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has in the > > past.>

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[Guest guest]

Dr. Frist is combatting Methyl-amphetamines as well as combatting

autism. I clicked on the meth speech and then found the autism one

Geez, he's a busy guy!

> >

> > > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

> children

> > > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what

> that is

> > > leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure

and

> try

> > > all these unproven things like chelation which won't " work "

> because

> > > mercury doesn't cause autism.

> > > At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to. Has

> in the

> > > past.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sure, children are born with autism -- if they're BORN WITH MERCURY

POISONING.

Like my son... fetal tissue absorbing outgassing and grindings from

Mom's mercury amalgam tooth fillings, then walloped with Thimerosal

from RhoGam shots.

Then regressing with each TCV, in his case most noticeable at 6

months and 18 months.

Hokkanen

Minneapolis

> > OK people I'll admit I am addicted to Imus in the morning!

> > Here is what he said a few minute ago.

> >

> > His wife along with Bob and Suzanne went to Washington on

> Wed.

> > to speak with some sentors regarding the Combatting Autism Act.

> Turns

> > out a meeting with Sen Bill Frist turned into what Imus

described

> as

> > a " CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM LARRY DAVID BIT " . Sen. FRist was

> complaining to

> > Mrs. Imus about how her husband talks badly about him (FRist)

and

> how

> > unfair he is in what he says....Anyways, Imus talked about all

this

> on

> > his show yesterday.

> >

> > Turns out Sen Frist, after their meeting, went out on the Senate

> floor

> > and made some kind of statement about autism (Imus read it). IMO

it

> was

> > a piss poor stereotypical summary of what autism is, but he

ended

> by

> > saying he will support the autism portion of the children's

health

> bill.

> >

> > Mrs. Imus than called Sen Frist and Imus described them as

having a

> > very spirited converstaion and Sen. Frist apologized about 19

times

> for

> > what happened while they had met in Washington.

> >

> > So, Imus basically gave Frist " props " for all that.

> >

> > Of course we know what a low life snake in the grass Dr. Bill

has

> been

> > so I'm very skeptical.

> >

> > Would love to get to read his statement he made.

> >

> > Does anyone know how to get it? Can we?

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think she seemed nervous when she first started speaking. Slip of

the tongue.

> > >

> > > > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

> > children

> > > > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what

> > that is

> > > > leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure

and

> > try

> > > > all these unproven things like chelation which won't " work "

> > because

> > > > mercury doesn't cause autism.

> > > >Â At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to.

Has in

> > the

> > > > past.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have enormous respect for Deirdre Imus and her dedication to the

welfare of our children. I do not, however, believe it is a slip of the

tongue. The reason for her statement, " born with autism " is a lack of

intimate understanding and familiarity with the problems of our

children. The concept of " born with autism " or " regressive autism " is

too central to our issue to be the result of a " sip of the tongue. "

When certain people go to Congress and speak about our children, but

are not intimately familiar with what is happening, then " slips of the

tongue " are inevitable. The " born with autism " issue is critical and

we must do everything in our power to make sure that the world knows

that many, if not most, of our children were not " born with autism. "

(Even though I note and agree with H.'s point that this can occur

in some cases with in utero toxic exposure, or in very rare cases

Thalidomide exposure, or even rarer Fragile X.)

We must educate those who take up our cause and decide to speak for us

how they should frame the issue, better, we should speak for ourselves

and not let others, no matter how influential, moneyed or powerful they

may be, be our surrogates. I do not blame Deirdre Imus for this, but

we need to make sure that " slips of the tongue " do not continue.

All the above having been stated I am very glad Deirdre Imus has taken

an interest in our children. Her heart is in the right place and

certain Senators fear her influence.

On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:53 AM, andrea52521991 wrote:

> I think she seemed nervous when she first started speaking. Slip of

> the tongue.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > He also said that these parents get discouraged because their

> > > children

> > > > > won't cuddle them and shun any physical contact. You know what

> > > that is

> > > > > leading up to! The fact that we are all desperate for a cure

> and

> > > try

> > > > > all these unproven things like chelation which won't " work "

> > > because

> > > > > mercury doesn't cause autism.

> > > > >  At least that is what I would expect all that to lead to.

> Has in

> > > the

> > > > > past.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>

>

> We must educate those who take up our cause and decide to speak for

us

> how they should frame the issue, better, we should speak for

ourselves

> and not let others, no matter how influential, moneyed or powerful

they

> may be, be our surrogates.

Personally, I think we're still at a point where an appearance such as

Deidre Imus' this morning is more helpful than the " slip of the

tongue " is hurtful, in regards to keeping the autism issue in the

mainstream eye. I hope someday leaders in the autism-vaccine camp are

invited on TV to educate everyone, but in the meantime, we could do

worse with those people of influence who are making an effort now.

[Guest guest]

> Personally, I think we're still at a point where an appearance such as

> Deidre Imus' this morning is more helpful than the " slip of the

> tongue " is hurtful, in regards to keeping the autism issue in the

> mainstream eye. I hope someday leaders in the autism-vaccine camp are

> invited on TV to educate everyone, but in the meantime, we could do

> worse with those people of influence who are making an effort now.

You are probably right. Deirdre Imus is very good for us and I do

appreciate her effort for our children.

On Mar 3, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Bill wrote:

>

> >

> > 

> > We must educate those who take up our cause and decide to speak for

> us

> > how they should frame the issue, better, we should speak for

> ourselves

> > and not let others, no matter how influential, moneyed or powerful

> they

> > may be, be our surrogates.

>

>

>

>