Re: Re: Question on MiCASSAA

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In California and other states, PAs help people that work. The issue is

Medicaid rules. " it won't help disabled people who can work " is

untrue.... Medicaid is having more buy-ins to lessen the enforced

poverty stuff, and in Mass., income limit is 54k for pas. Enforced

poverty isn't always a given. That people will not have the ability to

still hire their own people and exist entirely outside the system also

is untrue.

MiCASSA isn't a panacea, nothing is; but it's a good step. If anything

MiCASSA is not broad enough, does not address many of the underlying

flaws in Medicaid.. The flaws are countless. Enforced poverty has to

stop. There must be a strong enough safety net so that people are not

continually left to die without help. I wouldn't have just gone two days

on 4 hours of sleep writing in support of it if I didn't really believe

MiCASSA is good. I never want to force people a step backwards, just the

thought of that pains me.

Jerry, you're not a heretic. Your views are extremely important to

listen to, even though I strongly disagree.

All the best to all of you,

Nick

jstalin02 wrote:

>The MICASSA proposal only affects Medicaid recipients. So, it won't

>help disabled people who can work, have worked in the past or have a

>spouse/parent who works, and thus qualify for Medicare.

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>I know I will get a lot of grief from certain people here for saying

>this, but…

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>Many activists believe that the MICASSA proposal is a step backwards

>for the disabled.

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>People like Jenn are good examples of the majority of disabled people

>for whom MICASSA is a bad idea. If MICASSA is implemented, the

>personal attendant business will completely disappear regardless of

>how much money you may have. Also, in a MICASSA world, Medicare and

>private insurance companies will stop funding all personal attendants

>in the strict cases which they do now. There will be no more respite

>attendants available for the mentally handicapped. There will be no

>more attendant care through Early Intervention or other state

>programs. All cases will be filtered through one source: Medicaid.

>You will only be able to get an attendant by impoverishing yourself

>and going on Medicaid, with all of the inferior medical care that

>goes along with that. If you've ever made a Medicaid claim, you know

>what a nightmare those services are.

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>If MICASSA were law, it's possible that the life of Nick's friend may

>have been spared, but it's also a guarantee that thousands more

>mentally handicapped would be taken out of the community and placed

>in institutions because of being forced onto Medicaid. There will be

>no incentive for middle-class families to help out their disabled

>children. The government will basically be telling everyone to

>either disown your disabled family members and turn them over to the

>government, or do without any care for them whatsoever.

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>Okay, now everyone can start yelling at me for speaking such heresy...

>Regards,

>Jerry

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Nick Dupree wrote:

>That people will not have the ability to

>still hire their own people and exist entirely outside the system also

>is untrue.

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the way it works, but if the PAs with

MiCASSAA are paid for by the state and receive government employment

benefits (ie. - health insurance, paid vacations, holidays), there is no

way I can afford the dollar amount out-of-pocket that I, as a private

citizen, would need to pay someone to lure them away from 'the program'

with all the added government benfits, etc.

And why can't MiCASSAA apply to folks on Medicare too? We like living

in our homes with our families like everyone else.

Please, someone enlighten me!

Jenn

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Jenn,

Your state needs to open up Medicaid home care to families with

incomes. The hope is that more states will do this if home care is

mandatory.

That not everyone will be covered by MiCASSA is upsetting. MiCASSA is

merely one step in the right direction.

We're going to have people falling through the cracks until we get the

basic moral imperative that everyone deserves life-giving care codified

into law, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, something which I will continue to

fight for. I try. I'll help you Jenn!

Nick

Malatesta wrote:

>Nick Dupree wrote:

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>>That people will not have the ability to

>>still hire their own people and exist entirely outside the system also

>>is untrue.

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>Maybe I'm misunderstanding the way it works, but if the PAs with

>MiCASSAA are paid for by the state and receive government employment

>benefits (ie. - health insurance, paid vacations, holidays), there is no

>way I can afford the dollar amount out-of-pocket that I, as a private

>citizen, would need to pay someone to lure them away from 'the program'

>with all the added government benfits, etc.

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>And why can't MiCASSAA apply to folks on Medicare too? We like living

>in our homes with our families like everyone else.

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>Please, someone enlighten me!

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>Jenn

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universal health care is not the answer either. countries w/universal

healthcare have a 2-3 yr waiting list just to see a dr. i am already seeing

this

happen. i have to wait almost a yr to see an ob/gyn. this is mostly b/c of the

high malpratice in PA but i never thought it would take a yr to see a dr.

kimi