RE: Re: IVF & ASD.

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In a message dated 09/08/2006 12:59:46 GMT Standard Time, rexel45@... writes:

Yes, I have a friend who was actually told that there was a higher incidence of autism among IVF babies. She has an IVF son with ASD.

Erm....I meant to say that she was actually told by a GENETICIST....

Darla

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In a message dated 09/08/2006 14:19:16 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-@... writes:

But did your son have vaccines?

He had the dipT shots but nothing else. He showed signs of autism from birth. He has never had any major regressions. He could not feed from birth and there was no medically indicated reason for this (hence no one believed me!). He also never once cried to be fed - even in the first 8 weeks of his life prior to vax. In his first few days of life I kept waiting for him to cry for milk but I finally gave up and just started feeding him on a schedule. He still does not ask for food....

He had his first shot at 8 weeks and had a bad reaction and by the time he got wild chicken pox at 4 months old he was exhibiting neurological symptoms (Sandifer's syndrome) which are consistent with signs of infantile autism (back arching). We feel pretty certain that had autism from birth that was antagonised by the vax. I don't feel that his autism was solely caused by the vaccinations. I know a couple of non-vaxing families who have two children on the spectrum so autism does occur in kids who have never had vax's, antibiotics, etc. I think the environmental insults can begin en utero even when the highest levels of preventative measures are taken by the mother.

I would never never discount those people who can pin their child's autism on vax's though. I really really think that the majority of kids are cases are caused by vax's. But then it doesn't really matter what I think.....lol..... ;-)

Darla

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But did

your son have vaccines?

Re:

Re: IVF & ASD.

Yes, I

have a friend who was actually told that there was a higher incidence of autism

among IVF babies. She has an IVF son with ASD.

I had

natural conception, NO CHEMICALS during pregnancy - healthy eating for TWO

years prior to conception - and by that I mean I didn't even have a freakin

glass of wine!!! I took high quality DLA and GLA, NO MERCURY during

pregnancy, blah blah blah....anyway, if anyone feels guilty about their

pregnancy - DON'T!! Because I did the *nine month cruise* as healthy

as it can get and my son still has autism. I think the variables are so

diverse we can't possibly pin Autism on one antagonist or another. I

don't have any fillings either, BTW.

oh,

don't know why I said all that but hey, there you go.

Darla

~wittering as usual.

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message dated 09/08/2006 10:21:04 GMT Standard Time, charmanhometiscali (DOT) co.uk

writes:

Coming

into this a bit late but I remember when we got Joe's diagnosis

the paed asked us if we'd had IVF, as he said he had noticed a higher

incidence of autism in babies born through assisted conception. He was

very mainstream so interesting to think he was looking for a link.

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In a message dated 09/08/2006 20:13:59 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-@... writes:

I think Tom was born autistic too but I had a filling while I was pregnant. What do you think is the cause of ’s autism? You said environmental insults but I wondered if you had any more clues.

Sara

I've thought a lot about this, as one does when one is a parent of a child with autism....I think there are several things that may have conspired against us. I was very sick as a child and almost died from strep infection and had to have gamma globulin shots routinely to boost my immunity. I had kidney infections that were horrific and anaphalactic shock from pennecillin when I was an infant. I have had a long string of serious viral infections and about one year before I got pregnant I contracted an unusual respiratory virus with a cloak like rash (it was a symmetrical rash like a shawl covering my upper torso and head and neck, everywhere but my face). I was sent to a tropical disease specialist and he did isolate the type of virus and I was put on antivirals and other treatments, then the virus caused peripheral neuropathy and it was the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life.

In my 20's, I also worked in a biotech company that specialied in the enzymatic degradation of toxic chemicals. It was a start-up company and we handled toxic waste samples like they were custard - we even stored samples in the refrigerator with our FOOD. We were awful at implementing any hazardous materials handling protocols and half the time we didn't even really know what we were handling. God knows what I was exposed to in those 18 months!

I'm sure that my possible toxicity coupled with my seemingly low immunity probably didn't make for the best gestational environment. When I think about all the factors combined together it makes sense to me that he was born with a predisposition to neurological damage.

Anyway...enough wittering...there's my hypothesis...but who knows really.

Interesting conversation....oh and by the way, I'm curious, did you notice any early signs before 1 year in Tom?

Take care,

Darla