Hi! newbie... question for replicating a Caudalie skincare product fragrance

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Hello everyone!

I am a complete novice, but I'm interested in aromatherapy and want

to create my own perfumes. I've gathered a decent collection of

essential oils, which is expanding as I learn from reading all your

helpful posts.

I have been obsessed with the Caudalie brand skincare products

because of their fragrance. From reading the labels, I purchased

essential oils listed, but now I am stuck... I know that there is

also another mysterious fragrance listed on there, but I was hoping

someone familiar with their products could help me figure out or

suggest how I would blend these eos (proportions...etc) to at least

approximate the aroma of the product... so here goes... Below are

the composition descriptions of the 2 products whose scents I am

after (this is directly from the website, so the " ... " is from the

company!):

1) Premières Vendanges (New C20) Moisturizing Cream :

grape-seed polyphenols (OPC)

grape-seed oil and olive extract

plant glycerine

coriander

sweet lime

lemon

guaiac wood

sweet orange

vetiver

sandalwood and lavandin...

2) Radiance Day Fluid SPF8

grapevine Resveratrol

grape-seed polyphenols (OPC)

Vinolevure®

coppery pearlizers and light-reflecting pigments

ginseng

cassia angustifolia, sodium hyaluronate, shea butter, olive squalane

and pea; soothing pro-vitamin B5 and

camomile

encapsulated sun filters

cypress, basil, mint, galbanum, mandarin and ylang-ylang...

-Sorry this is so long!

Thanks in advance,

-Joanne

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jzainoun wrote:

> coriander

> sweet lime

> lemon

> guaiac wood

> sweet orange

> vetiver

> sandalwood and lavandin...

>

what does the scent actually smell like?

You can go in a lot of different directions depending on the proportions.

the citrus will doninate everything unless you use them sparingly,

followed by vetiver, so unless the scent was citrus heavy, you need to

use them sparingly. I'm sure vetyver was only a tiny amount here,

otherwise it would be too irritating on the skin.

Lavandin is an artificial compound to my knowledge?

I'd start with 10 drops of sandalwood, one each of everything else and

then see which notes dominate and which go under and add drop by drop of

the weaker ones

> 2) Radiance Day Fluid SPF8

>

> cypress, basil, mint, galbanum, mandarin and ylang-ylang...

>

>

What's cypress doing in a sunscreen?????It's irritant. Good for

decongestion and sore muscles, but not for skincare.

It and basil would be the side notes here, just a hint to make it

interesting, otherwise they would clash badly with the rest.......

Ambrosia

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> > 2) Radiance Day Fluid SPF8

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> > cypress, basil, mint, galbanum, mandarin and ylang-ylang...

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> What's cypress doing in a sunscreen?????It's irritant. Good for

> decongestion and sore muscles, but not for skincare.

> It and basil would be the side notes here, just a hint to make it

> interesting, otherwise they would clash badly with the rest.......

>

>

> Ambrosia

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Hello everyone,

Just to clarify about Caudalie products: they are French cosmetics

products which have been developed by a chemist and Caudalie launched

the concept called 'Vineotherapy' i.e. therapy through wine! When you

go for a treat in their spa in the middle of the Bordeaux vineyard,

you literally get bathed into wine and massaged with wine products,

with a view over the vineyards. Although the idea is innovative and

great and has picked up nicely among French and international spas,

the cosmetics are however developed in scientific laboratories. They

are based on 'polyphenols' which are found in grapeseeds and are

great antioxydants.

So to reply to Joanne's thread, I suspect that the 'mysterious'

fragrance she is looking for is unfortunately a synthetic perfume or

fragrance developed to give a boost to the whole range of creams etc.

Besides, the research and development and the process of 'developing

and stabilising polyphenols' is patented so it will probably be

difficult to reproduce Caudalie's products which are anyway not

natural nor organic.

Isabelle

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> > > 2) Radiance Day Fluid SPF8

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> > > cypress, basil, mint, galbanum, mandarin and ylang-ylang...

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> > What's cypress doing in a sunscreen?????It's irritant. Good for

> > decongestion and sore muscles, but not for skincare.

> > It and basil would be the side notes here, just a hint to make it

> > interesting, otherwise they would clash badly with the rest.......

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> > Ambrosia

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> Hello everyone,

>

> Just to clarify about Caudalie products: they are French cosmetics

> products which have been developed by a chemist and Caudalie

launched

> the concept called 'Vineotherapy' i.e. therapy through wine! When

you

> go for a treat in their spa in the middle of the Bordeaux vineyard,

> you literally get bathed into wine and massaged with wine products,

> with a view over the vineyards. Although the idea is innovative and

> great and has picked up nicely among French and international spas,

> the cosmetics are however developed in scientific laboratories.

They

> are based on 'polyphenols' which are found in grapeseeds and are

> great antioxydants.

>

> So to reply to Joanne's thread, I suspect that the 'mysterious'

> fragrance she is looking for is unfortunately a synthetic perfume

or

> fragrance developed to give a boost to the whole range of creams

etc.

> Besides, the research and development and the process

of 'developing

> and stabilising polyphenols' is patented so it will probably be

> difficult to reproduce Caudalie's products which are anyway not

> natural nor organic.

>

> Isabelle

>

Hi Abrosia and Isabelle,

Thanks to both of you!

Indeed, it is quite impossible to get close to the fragrance...

Ambrosia, I'm so impressed with your knowledge! How did you know,

for example, that basil and cypress would clash with the rest of the

oils? Is it just experience?

And about the 10 drops of sandalwood, do you think that, in general,

base accords should make up the majority of the total formula? (does

that differ based on the carrier, ie. lipid vs. alcohol, etc...)

Thanks a lot for the starting points!

-joanne