Re: Hi- New to this group

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Michele wrote:

Any ideas on how to get a good Behavioral Plan set up?

Start with the IEP team. Ask for

an functional assessment and a behavior intervention plan.

R

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My autistic son is 14 to and yes he has some bad days at school, they usually take him to a quiet place if they notice he is starting to get frustrated. I think that is wrong for them to send him home. They should be ashamed.

Have a Day!

[Guest guest]

Write a letter and tell them they cannot restrain him. Ask for an

outside behavior team to come in and look at their program/tactics.

Your son is probably bored to tears.

I am going through this right now..and coming out of it. Last week

when my son had the reaction to pepcid AC I found the principal of the

school trying to restrain him on the playground. Holding him by his

shirt and he was swinging around like a tether ball.

A nonverbal kid has similarities to a cat or dog. You can't hold a

cat when they feel threatened. You have to give our kids space and a

way to communicate what they want. Help them communicate. Will your

son point to a sign or communicate his needs somehow? I don't think

trhrowing them in padded isolation rooms is the answer.

We need to have videos in the special ed classrooms.

>

> Hi I am the parent of a 14 year old autistic boy. Quanah is having

> issues with aggression at school but at home and when we take in in

> public there is not a problem. I am frustrated with the school and

> their efforts (which are to restrain Quanah with Mandt holds or send

> him home). Any ideas on how to get a good Behavioral Plan set up?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have a 13 year old autistic grandson. Welcome to the group.

What is the antecedent to the behavior? What time of day does the behavior occur? How does he express the aggression? Is this a new school? a new teacher? Has the aggression just started? How long does it last? Is he verbal? Have they made any efforts at reinforcing nonaggressive behavior? When my Karac is aggressive it is best to give him space and let him calm himself down. At Karac's school they have a tunnel that he knows to crawl into until he has gained control. He has only had to use it a couple of times. Now they just say, "calm down" and they keep their distance. I'll be interested in the others' suggestions. Pat K

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Okay... I'll play the heavy guy here... I suggest that you contact a lawyer. U2 mbs. If we don't take this seriously, nobody will. That's my .02 anyway. Kat

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are your children in mainstream schools?*sweetie* <ragtop_90@...> wrote: My autistic son is 14 to and yes he has some bad days at school, they usually take him to a quiet place if they notice he is starting to get frustrated. I think that is wrong for them to send him home. They should be ashamed. Have a

Day!

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Quanah goes to a special school through the school district for SED children. I am not happy with the placement but have run into brick walls trying to find an alternative for him. The environment it chaotic and he is constantley bombarded by external stimuli. As for the recent behavior, it seems to be centered around his coat. He does not want to be away from it and the mental health techs are always demanding he remove it as it is not allowed to be worn in school. The latest incident escalated into my son being charged with assualt for spitting on the mental health tech. I spent 2 hours at the school trying to find out what caused the incident and of course it was the coat. Apparently he refused to remove it and was sitting on a bench when two mental health techs decided they were going to physically remove it from him. And this made my son upset as he hates to be touched and they restrained him for how long I am not sure as they are

not giving me answers and the incident report if very vague. But in the end he spit at them when they released him. I had to be very forceful and demand answers and now their are no charges against my son but I still am not getting answers and feel very uncomfortable at the thought of sending Quanah back to school.always,

Michele

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There is a good website on FBAs http://cecp.air.org/fba/default.asp

Tonya

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autism

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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006

1:44 PM

To:

autism

Subject: Re: Hi- New

to this group

Michele wrote:

Any ideas on how to get a good Behavioral Plan set

up?

Start with the IEP

team. Ask for an functional assessment and a behavior intervention plan.

Jean

R

[Guest guest]

Why do they care if he keeps his coat on? Pat K

[Guest guest]

My thought exactly. It is not worth the “fight” and

definitely not restraint.

From:

autism [mailto:autism ]

On Behalf Of pkuenstler@...

Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006

5:00 PM

To:

autism

Subject: Re: Hi- New

to this group

Why do they care if he keeps his coat on?

Pat K

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I am still trying to figure out what it is with the coat. The principal told me it is for safety because he might have something in his coat- which makes no sense as he goes through a metal detector and is patted down upon entering the school every morning. Then the security people said it was because it may get in the way when they restrain him- which is really crazy because they don't need to restrain him - he is fine he just wants to have his coat. Basically I ain't buying either one and I am going to have to call an IEP meeting so he can wear his coat if he feels he needs to. always,

Michele

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I have a lot of experience in teaching both SED kids and kids with

autism. It is my expert opinion that kids with autism should NOT be

placed in a SED facility!

R

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what is an SED facility? <luvsbt@...> wrote: I have a lot of experience in teaching both SED kids and kids with autism. It is my expert opinion that kids with autism should NOT be placed in a SED facility!R

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wrote:

> what is an SED facility?

I am assuming that it is what is also called a therapeutic day school,

designed for kids with social, emotional and/or behavioral disorders.

Restraint is common is most therapeutic day schools and it would be a

first resort for many of the staff that I have known.

R

[Guest guest]

The need to wear his coat may be a sensory

issue. An Occupational Therapist could

check it.

Tonya

Re: Hi- New

to this group

I am still trying to figure out what it is with the

coat. The principal told me it is for safety because he might have something

in his coat- which makes no sense as he goes through a metal detector and is

patted down upon entering the school every morning. Then the security people

said it was because it may get in the way when they restrain him- which is

really crazy because they don't need to restrain him - he is fine he just

wants to have his coat. Basically I ain't buying either one and I am going to

have to call an IEP meeting so he can wear his coat if he feels he needs to.

always,

Michele

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[Guest guest]

Serious Emotional

Disturbance.  is right, our kids don’t belong

there; they make great victims!!!

Tonya

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what is an SED facility?

<luvsbt@...>

wrote:

I have a lot of experience in teaching both SED kids

and kids with

autism. It is my expert opinion that kids

with autism should NOT be

placed in a SED facility!

R

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SED = Severe Emotionally Disturbed.

I agree with that most kids would not be appropriate for an SED class/facility. However, my ASD son spent 2 years in one such class, and he did quite well. It provided verbal peer models, social peer models, and his behaviors were already as bad as those of the others in the class when he went in.

However, if the child has not presented with such behaviors already, they might pick some up in that environment.

Heidi

-------------- Original message -------------- From: <gina_m_brooks@...> what is an SED facility? <luvsbt@...> wrote: I have a lot of experience in teaching both SED kids and kids with autism. It is my expert opinion that kids with autism should NOT be placed in a SED facility!R

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Unfortunately my son has already picked up some pretty undesirable behaviors. I am afraid that he will start to think that you can physically force people to do what you want (as this is the message the security guards are giving to him). always,

Michele

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thank you I will definately be looking into this. always,

Michele

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[Guest guest]

We live in wisconsin and all autistic kids are placed either in the LD

program or the EBD program depending on their behavior. We are fighting

the school right now becasue my son is aggressive and out of control at

school. I beleive its because of being in the EBD program and not having

the proper autism supports.

Allie

9 year old son dx with aspergers, anxiety, nvld, SID, rages

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allie340@... wrote:I believe its because of being in the EBD

program and not having

the proper autism supports.

I agree. Plus being with BD kids does not offer a very positive example

of behavior in most cases. One of my students, , is very social.

She is echolalic and watches others for behavioral cues. The year

before I had the class, the teacher sent all the verbal kids into other

classes. Because is hyperlexic, he thought she was more

competent than she is (but that is a whole 'nother story). spent

about 1/2 of each day in a classroom with acting-out BD kids. She begin

to have tantrums and echo a lot of foul language. DUH, as the kids say.

R

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where do you think they should be placed? Pat K

[Guest guest]

Amen!! Their reasons are ridiculous!! Let us know how it turns out. Pat K

[Guest guest]

What county are you in.....this is not alway the case

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Tina

Mom to

, 13 -ASD, Mood Disorder-NOS

11- Bipolar, ADHD, PDD-NOS

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From: angelclmbr3 <angelclmbr3@...>

In land, if a child has a educational dx of Autism, they cannot be

placed in an ED program.

I didn't know this until my sons non-public placement CIEP mtg.

theshabbysheep@... wrote:

> It is my expert opinion that kids with autism should NOT be

> placed in a SED facility!

> R

>

[Guest guest]

pkuenstler@... wrote:

where do you think they should be placed? Pat K