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An ad in USA Today would be a great idea, particularly since it is widely

available throughout the international military community. It is something I

have already looked into, and it will cost $65,000 (which I believe was for a

full page non-weekend, non-Friday, b/w, edition). Obviously, not an

insignificant amount of money.

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<<

From: ZaidMS@...

An ad in USA Today would be a great idea, particularly since it is widely

available throughout the international military community. It is something I

have already looked into, and it will cost $65,000 (which I believe was for

a

full page non-weekend, non-Friday, b/w, edition). >>

Is this a typo? Did Mark say $65,000? So at a couple bucks apiece all we

need is 32,500 people to contribute! Sorry if I seem a little frustrated.

It has been a long nine months, but like a said before... we tried to raise

money for the defense of the Marines at 29 Palms through The Madison

Project (Mark Zaid, Director) and Mark ended up with a lot of " out of pocket "

expenses.

It seems difficult to even get people to sign the " Free " Petition! People

won't know about it unless we inform them.

New York State

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I agree..... I was hoping it was a " type-o " too. With as much as this has

caused me out of my pocket, we need to have a donation to the " randi fund " .

Being sarcastic on the Randi fund, but, I understand how frustrated you are

at out of your own pocket money. Hopefully it's a type-o.

<<

Is this a typo? Did Mark say $65,000? So at a couple bucks apiece all we

need is 32,500 people to contribute! Sorry if I seem a little frustrated.

It has been a long nine months, but like a said before... we tried to raise

money for the defense of the Marines at 29 Palms through The Madison

Project (Mark Zaid, Director) and Mark ended up with a lot of " out of

pocket "

expenses. >>

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> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 2

> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:05:09 -0700

> From: " E. O'Kins " <okinsc@...>

> Subject: Throat cancer

>

> I've been with for about a year. I've found the

> advice useful, but, recently, there seems to be more heat than light.

>

> I want to tell my story because some may find it useful. Last

> June my wife was diagnosed with throat cancer; specifically,

> stage IV squamous cell carcinoma of the tonsil pillar. The

> prognosis was frightening and the cure, terrible. We had no

> insurance, having been dumped by our insurance company because of

> our age (early sixties, but too young for medicare).

>

> I began research on the net and discovered which led

> me to flaxseed oil and beta glucan, and a lot of other things I

> thought to be less promising. The theory behind flaxseed oil and

> beta glucan is that they reinforce the body's immune system,

> which is the real cancer fighter.

>

> I also received advice that traditional treatment was to be

> avoided. I believe in alternative therapies, but not at the

> exclusion of traditional, particularly when it's my wife's life

> that is threatened.

>

> My wife began taking the Budwig diet of two tablespoons of

> flaxseed oil daily (Barlean's is the best that I found) with

> eight ounces of yogurt (it may be that yogurt provided the immune

> boost). She also became more diligent about taking her vitamins,

> minerals, and supplements. To this we added three capsules of

> beta glucan (SolaRay Pure Beta Glucan, 3 mg) spread over the day,

> but not with meals. According to tests, beta glucan enhances the

> immune system, encourages blood cell growth, and greatly reduces

> radiation damage.

>

> Within two weeks she underwent surgery at Scripps Memorial

> Hospital, La Jolla, CA, having a neck resection, which involved

> the removal of the cancerous tissue and any potential lymph node

> sites where cancer cells may have migrated. Strangely, the Drs.

> downgraded the cancer from stage IV to stage II--could it have

> been the flaxseed oil and beta glucan? " Just to be safe, "

> however, they insisted on radiation therapy--6600 rads (or 66 Gy)

> over seven weeks.

>

> I argued earnestly that a stage II carcinoma did not require

> radiation. I eventually acquiesced, taking solace in the belief

> that the beta glucan would reduce radiation damage.

>

> Through all of this, my wife maintained her regimen of flaxseed

> oil, yogurt, beta glucan, 8000mg of vitamin C daily, plus a

> comprehensive set of vitamins, minerals, and supplements. The

> result was that the surgeon was impressed over my wife's rapid

> recovery from very invasive surgery, and the radiologists and

> technicians marveled at her lack of external radiation burns and

> depression from the radiation treatments; e. g., " You're the

> first person I've ever seen smiling and laughing at this stage of

> therapy. " Two weeks after the end of radiation she had recovered

> to a point that most don't reach for two years. Nine months

> after surgery there is no sign of a cancer recurrence. This is

> not to say that surgery and radiation has had no effect on her

> quality of life, but she's alive and living a normal life. Her

> sense of taste is still a little strange--she rarely can taste

> sweet, for instance. Her saliva production is also minimal,

> which makes eating a bit more difficult and increases the risk of

> dental caries, but this is expected to improve over the months.

>

> To what do I attribute her unusual recovery from such a serious

> prognosis? God, the love of her family, the doctors, her

> attitude toward life, flaxseed oil, beta glucan, vitamins,

> minerals, supplements? Perhaps all of the above, which may mean

> that leaving out any one of them could be disastrous.

>

> I say that we should stop the bickering of recent days and share

> information and good will that may be helpful to others. Leave

> it to the reader to decide what he accepts and what he doubts.

>

> --Chuck

>

>

Chuck, you are a sensible alternative supporter, recognising that it may not

be wise to put one's eggs all in one basket. If all alternative supporters

reasoned like you there would be no need for people like me to worry about

some of the more extreme views expressed here and on some alternative web

sites.

I hope your wife continues to do well.

Moran

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Hi Janice, I remember one of Eli's PTs saying that for some reason many

children with DS do the bear walk for a while before they walk regularly.

Interesting.

Love debbi mom to Logan (almost 6) Eli (DS) and Milo 3 1/2

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In a message dated 5/28/00 10:13:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Hepatitis Cegroups writes:

<< Goldy is your husband a candidate for treatments? Take

Care, Irish~

>>

Irish,

My husband and I don't want the treatments.We feel bad enough and a friend of

ours did them and went back on street drugs and tried to commit suicide.He

hadn't had a drug in many years.Had a family of 4 kids a house and got very

depressed on the med.My husband hasn't had a drink in 13 yrs.And had a

history of depression.He's choosing to trust God.God delivered him from

alcohol and drugs and trusts that He can restore our health.The way I feel

right now, his Faith is much stronger than mine.

God Bless you all...You are good listeners.Knowing people care is a big help!

Goldy

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In a message dated 5/29/00 4:11:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Goldylocksnj@... writes:

My husband and I don't want the treatments.We feel bad enough and a friend

of

ours did them and went back on street drugs and tried to commit suicide.

*****

My Gastro told me the same thing....that, not only does the treatment make

you sick physically, but can also cause a recovering addict to

relapse.....BUT, for some, it is the only answer. I have a friend, who was

still using drugs (heroin and cocaine, too)...along wiith the myriad of pills

(benzos, morphine, dilaudid, etc..) the Doctors gave him, while he was on the

combo. (he had been given 2 years to live, prior to the treatment)....He was

lucky enough to get on one of the trials, when the combo first begun..but

after 6 months, they learned he was still using, and tossed him off. Even

though he used drugs, and did not finish the treatment, the treatment worked,

as he is now in remission.......I guess my point, is that, even with the

risks, it is sometimes the only answer....and it`s a hell of a lot better

than dying.

Well Wishes,

debmc

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Well, I can understand your not wanting to do the treatments, and many people

don't, when given the chance because of the side effects. That is a personal

choice. Then the herbal way may work for you and your husband. If your

husbands faith is that strong maybe you can lean on him for his faith till

yours comes in to focus. Everyone falls from time to time and we have to pick

ourselves up and get going again. I believe in you and I believe YOU Can do

this. Sorry to hear about your friend, and his family. It must be very hard

on the ones he left behind. Keep trying and I am praying for you to find your

Peace and the Will to start focusing again for you and your husband. Irish :)

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HI Goldy-I read your letter about your friend who tried suicide while on the

treatment. Did he have a good Dr. who put him on antidepressants while he

was on it? If I (or my wife) notice anything unusual I run to my Dr. and

also my nuse at Schering. They are very helpful. I also believe that God

wants for me to be healed but most of the time He uses Drs. and medicines.

I've seen a wife and advice of friends kill the husband because they though

God would heal him by fasting. In his condition it killed him and I was

shocked. I didn't say anything to anyone who knows them but I think it was

very unfortunate. The story of the good Samaritan didn't say that he stopped

and prayed for the man, who was wounded, and then go on his way. He bound

his wounds with a healing oil and took him to an inn where he got further

care.

Bob Simons

Sr. Commander

Royal Rangers

Tucson, Az.

bsimons@...

http://abbacomputers.homepage.com/bob.htm

For I know the plans I have for you, " declares the LORD, " plans to prosper

you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer 29:11

(NIV)

Re: Digest Number 321

> In a message dated 5/28/00 10:13:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Hepatitis Cegroups writes:

>

> << Goldy is your husband a candidate for treatments? Take

> Care, Irish~

> >>

> Irish,

> My husband and I don't want the treatments.We feel bad enough and a friend

of

> ours did them and went back on street drugs and tried to commit suicide.He

> hadn't had a drug in many years.Had a family of 4 kids a house and got

very

> depressed on the med.My husband hasn't had a drink in 13 yrs.And had a

> history of depression.He's choosing to trust God.God delivered him from

> alcohol and drugs and trusts that He can restore our health.The way I feel

> right now, his Faith is much stronger than mine.

> God Bless you all...You are good listeners.Knowing people care is a big

help!

> Goldy

>

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Hi and Everyone,

I am from the Chicago area.....fast paced and hard lived!! LOL!! I use

to go motorcycle riding yers ago and loved it so much hated getting off

the bike.....today it would be a different story though...I get fatigued

easily and even riding in the car my body does the curling up cramping

thing......By the way I just turned 47...but really don't feel it

all the time then on some occasions....well.... you know what I mean!!

I still walk just not as fast or far and I like to garden its just a

little harder than it use to be on me but I am like you I will keep

plugging away for as long as I can get awy with it! LOL!! As for the

posts on dating.....You should look at the person not the disability you

may miss out on someone very special......having a disability does not

make you less of a person if anything it makes you more. When it come

to getting help from anyone I always appreciate it. When I first fell

and had all my obstacles to overcome I was a little put off because I

had a hard time accepeting the way things were turning out......but over

time I have gotton use to not being able to do some of the things I use

to or to not be as quick as I use to be and I do have my " bummer " days

but hey why not make the best of it right?

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thanks group for all the great tips! Few questions: For Type O's ,,,

oatmeal was on the avoid list but I heard a rumor that it is now a neutral?

Is this true? Also, is it possible to find true artichoke pasta w/out

semolina? Is it possible to have some A traits (like benefiting from yoga)

if you are and O but one of your parents is an A?

Thanks for your help -- I'm new to this but am finding new energy from this

new lifestyle! keep up the good work on staying healthy everybody!

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Dear Virginia:

I am not sure of all the details of what you are going through, nor

do I know what is easily available in Texas, but, I believe with some

searching you can find the assistance you need. It will take some effort

and/or work, but, sometime in the future, when all this is behind you,

it will be worth it.

If the answer is to take care of yourself and your children,

depending on where you are, I would seek out some help from a few

different sources. I would look towards some type of woman's shelter or

program for a single woman with children, and, one that can help with

your daughter's care. Also, you might look at some of the Christian

Churches or related organizations for some help and direction. There are

also many charities, such as the Jewish Family Services, Y's, and other

organizations, no matter what your faith is, that have funds and

facilities for these situations. One way is to either speak to a

Minister or Rabbi that is active and known in your area, and see if they

have some information, or direction.

If that does not work well, you might want to speak to someone on

the Police Department's " abused " , or " battered " spouse's squad. They see

this often and should be able to offer the names of some contacts. Also,

if you have any friends that are home care, or hospice nurses, they may

be able to have someone, such as a Social Worker, offer some direction.

The American Liver Foundation, or Sheltie House may also offer some

direction.

You just have to hang in there, and, when all this is over, you can

then work towards a future direction. I wish I had more specifics, and

one of the list serve members will know of some other places to help.

Marty

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Dear Virginia:

I am not sure of all the details of what you are going through, nor

do I know what is easily available in Texas, but, I believe with some

searching you can find the assistance you need. It will take some effort

and/or work, but, sometime in the future, when all this is behind you,

it will be worth it.

If the answer is to take care of yourself and your children,

depending on where you are, I would seek out some help from a few

different sources. I would look towards some type of woman's shelter or

program for a single woman with children, and, one that can help with

your daughter's care. Also, you might look at some of the Christian

Churches or related organizations for some help and direction. There are

also many charities, such as the Jewish Family Services, Y's, and other

organizations, no matter what your faith is, that have funds and

facilities for these situations. One way is to either speak to a

Minister or Rabbi that is active and known in your area, and see if they

have some information, or direction.

If that does not work well, you might want to speak to someone on

the Police Department's " abused " , or " battered " spouse's squad. They see

this often and should be able to offer the names of some contacts. Also,

if you have any friends that are home care, or hospice nurses, they may

be able to have someone, such as a Social Worker, offer some direction.

The American Liver Foundation, or Sheltie House may also offer some

direction.

You just have to hang in there, and, when all this is over, you can

then work towards a future direction. I wish I had more specifics, and

one of the list serve members will know of some other places to help.

Marty

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Dear Virginia:

I am not sure of all the details of what you are going through, nor

do I know what is easily available in Texas, but, I believe with some

searching you can find the assistance you need. It will take some effort

and/or work, but, sometime in the future, when all this is behind you,

it will be worth it.

If the answer is to take care of yourself and your children,

depending on where you are, I would seek out some help from a few

different sources. I would look towards some type of woman's shelter or

program for a single woman with children, and, one that can help with

your daughter's care. Also, you might look at some of the Christian

Churches or related organizations for some help and direction. There are

also many charities, such as the Jewish Family Services, Y's, and other

organizations, no matter what your faith is, that have funds and

facilities for these situations. One way is to either speak to a

Minister or Rabbi that is active and known in your area, and see if they

have some information, or direction.

If that does not work well, you might want to speak to someone on

the Police Department's " abused " , or " battered " spouse's squad. They see

this often and should be able to offer the names of some contacts. Also,

if you have any friends that are home care, or hospice nurses, they may

be able to have someone, such as a Social Worker, offer some direction.

The American Liver Foundation, or Sheltie House may also offer some

direction.

You just have to hang in there, and, when all this is over, you can

then work towards a future direction. I wish I had more specifics, and

one of the list serve members will know of some other places to help.

Marty

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Dear Virginia:

I am not sure of all the details of what you are going through, nor

do I know what is easily available in Texas, but, I believe with some

searching you can find the assistance you need. It will take some effort

and/or work, but, sometime in the future, when all this is behind you,

it will be worth it.

If the answer is to take care of yourself and your children,

depending on where you are, I would seek out some help from a few

different sources. I would look towards some type of woman's shelter or

program for a single woman with children, and, one that can help with

your daughter's care. Also, you might look at some of the Christian

Churches or related organizations for some help and direction. There are

also many charities, such as the Jewish Family Services, Y's, and other

organizations, no matter what your faith is, that have funds and

facilities for these situations. One way is to either speak to a

Minister or Rabbi that is active and known in your area, and see if they

have some information, or direction.

If that does not work well, you might want to speak to someone on

the Police Department's " abused " , or " battered " spouse's squad. They see

this often and should be able to offer the names of some contacts. Also,

if you have any friends that are home care, or hospice nurses, they may

be able to have someone, such as a Social Worker, offer some direction.

The American Liver Foundation, or Sheltie House may also offer some

direction.

You just have to hang in there, and, when all this is over, you can

then work towards a future direction. I wish I had more specifics, and

one of the list serve members will know of some other places to help.

Marty

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Dear Harriet:

I have worked in the Medical end of the prison system, and you may

have a hard fight in front of you. The main problem is that there are

very high costs associated with therapy, as well as having to properly

manage that " inmate's " care, and the medical director's are usually very

cost directed, ignorant, or, like many bureaucrats, don't care.

The usual, and probably the hardest obstacle to overcome is the cost

of the meds. If you can make arrangements to supply all the medications,

and meet the requirements for outside medications in a prison, you can

usually push this through. The one thing to keep in mind is that,

whether treatment is documented or not, unless you get some political

push, they will ignore his needs.

Save yourself the aggravation and time, and focus on getting some

political push, as well as ways to provide the medicines and pay for the

labs. Otherwise, you may not get very far. Unfortunately, HCV is not

viewed as a major problem in most prisons, and is ignored. The problem

is that most " inmates " , especially those who are HIV positive, are also

HCV positive, and to treat would be cost prohibitive.

The other issue is that, " society " is not going to go out of their

way to pay for medical care of people that are considered " criminals " .

There are many people incarcerated that really are not bad, or poor

members of society, but, as we have all seen, the ones that have

committed the most heinous crimes are usually the ones that cost the

most and will never give anything back to anyone. But, without getting

into the pros and cons of the system, understand what you will have to

fight, and then fight smart and use whatever influence you can.

Trying to establish that someone should be treated will not really

be an issue. Let's face it, there are too many people that are not

treated in society that are not being paid for out of tax dollars, so

you are not going to clearly establish that someone in prison should be

treated at tax payer's expense, especially when people think that

prisoners are already getting too much free after being convicted of a

crime at any level. Good luck and I hope you succeed. Marty

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Dear Harriet:

I have worked in the Medical end of the prison system, and you may

have a hard fight in front of you. The main problem is that there are

very high costs associated with therapy, as well as having to properly

manage that " inmate's " care, and the medical director's are usually very

cost directed, ignorant, or, like many bureaucrats, don't care.

The usual, and probably the hardest obstacle to overcome is the cost

of the meds. If you can make arrangements to supply all the medications,

and meet the requirements for outside medications in a prison, you can

usually push this through. The one thing to keep in mind is that,

whether treatment is documented or not, unless you get some political

push, they will ignore his needs.

Save yourself the aggravation and time, and focus on getting some

political push, as well as ways to provide the medicines and pay for the

labs. Otherwise, you may not get very far. Unfortunately, HCV is not

viewed as a major problem in most prisons, and is ignored. The problem

is that most " inmates " , especially those who are HIV positive, are also

HCV positive, and to treat would be cost prohibitive.

The other issue is that, " society " is not going to go out of their

way to pay for medical care of people that are considered " criminals " .

There are many people incarcerated that really are not bad, or poor

members of society, but, as we have all seen, the ones that have

committed the most heinous crimes are usually the ones that cost the

most and will never give anything back to anyone. But, without getting

into the pros and cons of the system, understand what you will have to

fight, and then fight smart and use whatever influence you can.

Trying to establish that someone should be treated will not really

be an issue. Let's face it, there are too many people that are not

treated in society that are not being paid for out of tax dollars, so

you are not going to clearly establish that someone in prison should be

treated at tax payer's expense, especially when people think that

prisoners are already getting too much free after being convicted of a

crime at any level. Good luck and I hope you succeed. Marty

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Dear Harriet:

I have worked in the Medical end of the prison system, and you may

have a hard fight in front of you. The main problem is that there are

very high costs associated with therapy, as well as having to properly

manage that " inmate's " care, and the medical director's are usually very

cost directed, ignorant, or, like many bureaucrats, don't care.

The usual, and probably the hardest obstacle to overcome is the cost

of the meds. If you can make arrangements to supply all the medications,

and meet the requirements for outside medications in a prison, you can

usually push this through. The one thing to keep in mind is that,

whether treatment is documented or not, unless you get some political

push, they will ignore his needs.

Save yourself the aggravation and time, and focus on getting some

political push, as well as ways to provide the medicines and pay for the

labs. Otherwise, you may not get very far. Unfortunately, HCV is not

viewed as a major problem in most prisons, and is ignored. The problem

is that most " inmates " , especially those who are HIV positive, are also

HCV positive, and to treat would be cost prohibitive.

The other issue is that, " society " is not going to go out of their

way to pay for medical care of people that are considered " criminals " .

There are many people incarcerated that really are not bad, or poor

members of society, but, as we have all seen, the ones that have

committed the most heinous crimes are usually the ones that cost the

most and will never give anything back to anyone. But, without getting

into the pros and cons of the system, understand what you will have to

fight, and then fight smart and use whatever influence you can.

Trying to establish that someone should be treated will not really

be an issue. Let's face it, there are too many people that are not

treated in society that are not being paid for out of tax dollars, so

you are not going to clearly establish that someone in prison should be

treated at tax payer's expense, especially when people think that

prisoners are already getting too much free after being convicted of a

crime at any level. Good luck and I hope you succeed. Marty

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Dear Harriet:

I have worked in the Medical end of the prison system, and you may

have a hard fight in front of you. The main problem is that there are

very high costs associated with therapy, as well as having to properly

manage that " inmate's " care, and the medical director's are usually very

cost directed, ignorant, or, like many bureaucrats, don't care.

The usual, and probably the hardest obstacle to overcome is the cost

of the meds. If you can make arrangements to supply all the medications,

and meet the requirements for outside medications in a prison, you can

usually push this through. The one thing to keep in mind is that,

whether treatment is documented or not, unless you get some political

push, they will ignore his needs.

Save yourself the aggravation and time, and focus on getting some

political push, as well as ways to provide the medicines and pay for the

labs. Otherwise, you may not get very far. Unfortunately, HCV is not

viewed as a major problem in most prisons, and is ignored. The problem

is that most " inmates " , especially those who are HIV positive, are also

HCV positive, and to treat would be cost prohibitive.

The other issue is that, " society " is not going to go out of their

way to pay for medical care of people that are considered " criminals " .

There are many people incarcerated that really are not bad, or poor

members of society, but, as we have all seen, the ones that have

committed the most heinous crimes are usually the ones that cost the

most and will never give anything back to anyone. But, without getting

into the pros and cons of the system, understand what you will have to

fight, and then fight smart and use whatever influence you can.

Trying to establish that someone should be treated will not really

be an issue. Let's face it, there are too many people that are not

treated in society that are not being paid for out of tax dollars, so

you are not going to clearly establish that someone in prison should be

treated at tax payer's expense, especially when people think that

prisoners are already getting too much free after being convicted of a

crime at any level. Good luck and I hope you succeed. Marty

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HI, Rog,

This is a neat news group. I'm going to offer you book free to all

subscribers who request it. This is the 2nd article on the shitake mushroom

I've seen. Is there anything to it, or am I correct in supposing its the

beta glucan in the Shitake that is providing the benefit.

Also, I'm forwarding an email from Momemtum88. Do you want me to send them

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Fwd: [ginnyspals] Ginny Test/Treatment Update

> Any answers to this one? ( have put spaces around the @ in her address)

> >For all of you who have called or emailed wondering about the results of

> >Ginny's tests on tuesday - here is the update. Her CAT scan results were

not

> >great - the cancer is still in the lining of her right lung and in her

> >bones... and now in her liver with 3 lesions on each lobe of the liver.

> >Obviously the liver development was a blow as Gin has been feeling so

good

> >for the past 2 weeks now and the hope and prayer was that yinng and the

oral

> >estrogen blocker, Arimidex, had helped the cancer retreat not march on.

Hi,

This patient has chosen to rely on the best treatment her doctors

can

provide. Unfortunately doctors dont have a good track record with patients

in her

conditon. If she continues with the treatment her doctors are providing and

continues to Hope that the doctors drugs will work, then the outcome may be

a linear

projection of the way the disease is progressing at the moment.

If her doctors treatment was indeed working then she would be getting

better

instead of getting worse.

The choice is clearly hers, but it is a metter of Faith. She has faith

in the

doctors and hopes the doctors will cure her. But there is no eveidence,

based on her

disease progression, that they will be successfull.

To cut a long story short I would see a different doctor, for example

Doctor

Carolyn on this list, who at least is familiar with alternative treatments

and non

pharmaceutical drug treatments.

Or I would go to the Geerson institue for therapy.

Or I would read all the archives of posts on this list for the last 6

months

and select from those posts those treatment that are supported by evidence.

Primarily those treatments supported by trials with human patients done by

doctors.

Thioplroline and beta glucan (+ Vit. C) and orgainic Selenium fall into

that

category.

Additionally I would consider those treatments from the list archives

supported by

animal cancer models, providing the treatment is natural with no side

effects.

The principle decision is wheather to give all the responsability to the

man in

the white coat, and trust on faith that he will cure you and take no thought

yourself as to wheather it will really work or not.

Or to be like the father of Lorenzo, in the film " Lorenzos Oil "

starring Nick

Nolte, who went out and found the cure for his son's illness all by himself.

If she

chooses this path, there are many on this list to provide her with

information.

moonbeam

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Dear Flora Alyce:

To answer your question - My daughter has a modified wrap.

You maybe right about the heartburn, I attributed it to the acupuncture,

but maybe not??

I wish you the best.

Ron

Re: Re: G.I. Recommendation

>

> I have heard from many of you that you use water to

> assist you in swallowing and/or getting your food

> down. Is there others out there, like me, that loses

> water as readily as food. As a matter of fact, with me

> it seems to make it worse. It is almost like the

> water just causes the food to float back up.

>

> I have been a water drinker most of my life and

> usually have a glass at hand all the time. I have

> really missed not being able to keep water down

> and at first stayed thirsty all the time. After I learned

> from you guys that it goes down better without ice

> (and I love my ice) I have been able to drink and retain

> it better. It still makes meals harder however, if I drink

> it with meals.

>

> Maggwho

>

>

>

>

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>

> This time is with Peptizyde, so far similar to before. Sounds like

> celiac to me. I sure I hope I don't have the convulsions this time.

> Interesting tho, when I eat wheat WITHOUT Peptizyde, I just get the DH

> reaction, I don't get this major nasty stomach upset and vomit

> reaction as well. I don't know what to make of that part.

>

> I would not have posted this until a few days had gone by, so I would

> know for sure and have more info, but since you asked, here it is.

>

> Dana

>

Hi Dana,

When I ingest something I can't tolerate after avoiding it for a long time,

I get really sick. Have heard this from other allergic people as well.

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Marie,

The "sweet spot" is when you have the PERFECT fill level in your band. Not too tight, not too loose, juuuussst right!

You are at your sweet spot if:

You are losing 1-2 lbs a week

You are eating 1/2 cup to 1 cup of food per meal and you are satisfied

You are not hungry or stay satisfied 3-4 hrs between meals

You are not PB-ing or sliming (which also depends on you and how you follow the rules)

If someone else has something to add, please do. This is MY interpretation of a sweet spot.

M.

3/1/05

280/206/160

http://www.tracyslapband.com

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marie Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 321

,

Can you explain to me what the "Sweet Spot" is? And do you reach your ideal weight before you find your "Sweet Spot"

Marie wrote:

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