Re: Monday, tues, wed & knee

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In a message dated 10/18/2006 10:51:12 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, kerrykramer@... writes:

I've noticed that the quad stretch bothers it as well, this is crazy, I've never had trouble like this before. You'd think if it was going to hurt it would hurt all the time, but it doesn't, it's always good the next day.

My knee does this too. It will hurt just out of the blue and then not hurt other times, it's weird.

Good going on Firm Cardio. I have this one and really enjoy it. I can't wait to do a Firm rotation again, I miss doing them.

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Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with you you probably just strained it. Try not to do anything too hard on them for a while and watch how you do everyday things so that you won't strain it again. Take care, JenKerry Kramer <kerrykramer@...> wrote: Morning, today is a rest day for me as was yesterday, on Monday I did

Firm Cardio (the crosstrainers), it was pretty good, but I didn't use weight for most of it, used three lbs for my shoulders, 5 lbs for my biceps, pecs, and back, no weight at all for lunges, squats and dips. I used a 4" step for the stepping routines and an 8" step for leg presses. My knee behaved very well with this workout it was after that I had trouble. I noticed it while cleaning out my fridge. I have a bad habit of going down on one knee, my right, the one that's bothering me. I've noticed that the quad stretch bothers it as well, this is crazy, I've never had trouble like this before. You'd think if it was going to hurt it would hurt all the time, but it doesn't, it's always good the next day. I'm not sure if things just need to be strengthened or what the case is.Kerry

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Hi Jen,

I guess I could have strained it, on one of my other lists I was asked if I could have arthritis in my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt when it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility. I'm hoping it's just a strain.

Thanks,

Kerry

Jen wrote:

Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with you you probably just strained it. Try not to do anything too hard on them for a while and watch how you do everyday things so that you won't strain it again.

Take care,

Jen

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I'm sorry you are going through the same thing too. It's a real pain in the neck because you feel like doing a certain workout only to find that you can't due to your knees.

I wonder if I should start taking Glucosamine. Would that help? I also enjoy the Firm workouts.

Take care,

Kerry

wrote:

My knee does this too. It will hurt just out of the blue and then not hurt other times, it's weird.

Good going on Firm Cardio. I have this one and really enjoy it. I can't wait to do a Firm rotation again, I miss doing them.

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Kerry,

If it is arthritis it may or may not be affected by cold and wet weather. Are your knees hot and red or even very cold when they're hurting and you haven't banged them at all? Are the joint areas swollen? If so, these are indications that it could be arthritis. Does the pain feel like a muscle strain or "something else" (something deeper maybe)? Do they hurt when you walk up steps or down steps or is it anytime, anywhere? I have rheumatoid arthritis and have had it since I was at least 12 or so. It has affected my knees in the past but not too much lately. When it is active I notice that stairs, especially going down bothers them. Also, I often have one knee acting up but not usually both at the same time. Other people have both at the same time. Rheumatoid arthritis varies tremendously from individual to individual. My flares are not normally influenced by weather. The pain is often more of an ache, deep in the body (deep in the joints) and definitely not a muscle strain kind of pain. Usually it is a dull ache I can ignore, sometimes I have to take Motrin to quiet it, sometimes it is screaming (and nothing helps). Often when I try to make the flaring joint work (like going up and down stairs or trying to open a bottle with my fingers when they are flaring) I get very sharp pains until I stop (then I just have the ache again, a little louder for a while). If it is arthritis then doctors recommend that you rest affected joints during active flares because you can cause more damage then. I can usually still swim (which is highly recommended for arthritis) but definitely no step aerobics. When it is really bad I'm in too much pain and too fatigued to do any exercise so I just wait for it to pass and take it easy (thankfully that doesn't happen too often; my RA goes in and out of remission but most days I'm good to do whatever I want and can easily ignore the ache). If any of this sounds familiar then you might want to have a doctor check it out to make sure you're exercising safely for arthritic joints. Good luck!

Re: Monday, tues, wed & knee

Hi Jen,

I guess I could have strained it, on one of my other lists I was asked if I could have arthritis in my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt when it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility. I'm hoping it's just a strain.

Thanks,

Kerry

Jen wrote:

Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with you you probably just strained it. Try not to do anything too hard on them for a while and watch how you do everyday things so that you won't strain it again.

Take care,

Jen

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Glucosamine helps osteoarthritis but it does not help rheumatoid arthritis. It still might help you, but just wanted you to know it is not a wonder pill/cure-all the way the commercials make it sound. Do some research and if your knees keep bothering you change your workouts and see if they get better and consider having a doctor, especially one who knows about arthritis check you out and see if they recommend glucosamine or anything else.

Re: Monday, tues, wed & knee

I'm sorry you are going through the same thing too. It's a real pain in the neck because you feel like doing a certain workout only to find that you can't due to your knees.

I wonder if I should start taking Glucosamine. Would that help? I also enjoy the Firm workouts.

Take care,

Kerry

wrote:

My knee does this too. It will hurt just out of the blue and then not hurt other times, it's weird.

Good going on Firm Cardio. I have this one and really enjoy it. I can't wait to do a Firm rotation again, I miss doing them.

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,

You are absolutely right on this one. However, most people with arthritis in just one area (ie. knees) have it from excessive stress to the area (ie. over doing workouts), so I would assume it is osteoarthritis for someone who is actively exercising. Personally, I'd still have a doctor look at it, but would try the herbal remedies before the drug therapies.

Tonya L. -Certified Personal Trainer, Aerobics Instructor,Yoga Instructor, Pilates Instructor, Aqua Instructor, and Sports Nutritionistwww.trainingwithtonya.com

Re: Monday, tues, wed & knee

I'm sorry you are going through the same thing too. It's a real pain in the neck because you feel like doing a certain workout only to find that you can't due to your knees.

I wonder if I should start taking Glucosamine. Would that help? I also enjoy the Firm workouts.

Take care,

Kerry

wrote:

My knee does this too. It will hurt just out of the blue and then not hurt other times, it's weird.

Good going on Firm Cardio. I have this one and really enjoy it. I can't wait to do a Firm rotation again, I miss doing them.

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Good advice .

Thank you,

Kerry

wrote:

Glucosamine helps osteoarthritis but it does not help rheumatoid arthritis. It still might help you, but just wanted you to know it is not a wonder pill/cure-all the way the commercials make it sound. Do some research and if your knees keep bothering you change your workouts and see if they get better and consider having a doctor, especially one who knows about arthritis check you out and see if they recommend glucosamine or anything else.

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I don't know an awful lot about arthritis but my knees aren't hot and red or swollen at all. I don't recall banging my knee, but it could have happened and I forgot about it.

Your RA sounds like a real obstacle to work around. It is good that you are still exercising, I've heard that exercise helps.

Take care

Kerry

wrote:

Kerry,

If it is arthritis it may or may not be affected by cold and wet weather. Are your knees hot and red or even very cold when they're hurting and you haven't banged them at all? Are the joint areas swollen? If so, these are indications that it could be arthritis. Does the pain feel like a muscle strain or "something else" (something deeper maybe)? Do they hurt when you walk up steps or down steps or is it anytime, anywhere? I have rheumatoid arthritis and have had it since I was at least 12 or so. It has affected my knees in the past but not too much lately. When it is active I notice that stairs, especially going down bothers them. Also, I often have one knee acting up but not usually both at the same time. Other people have both at the same time. Rheumatoid arthritis varies tremendously from individual to individual. My flares are not normally influenced by weather. The pain is often more of an ache, deep in the body (deep in the joints) and definitely not a muscle strain kind of pain. Usually it is a dull ache I can ignore, sometimes I have to take Motrin to quiet it, sometimes it is screaming (and nothing helps). Often when I try to make the flaring joint work (like going up and down stairs or trying to open a bottle with my fingers when they are flaring) I get very sharp pains until I stop (then I just have the ache again, a little louder for a while). If it is arthritis then doctors recommend that you rest affected joints during active flares because you can cause more damage then. I can usually still swim (which is highly recommended for arthritis) but definitely no step aerobics. When it is really bad I'm in too much pain and too fatigued to do any exercise so I just wait for it to pass and take it easy (thankfully that doesn't happen too often; my RA goes in and out of remission but most days I'm good to do whatever I want and can easily ignore the ache). If any of this sounds familiar then you might want to have a doctor check it out to make sure you're exercising safely for arthritic joints. Good luck!

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Hi , I have Osteo Arthritis and that's

different from rheumatoid arthritis and the causes are

different as well.

I hurt my left knee when doing Judo - I pulled

the ligament in my knee and after that my knee cap

would dislocate...after a while I got Osteo arthritis

in my knee...actually I have arthritic spurs under my

knee cap...NOT much fun.

Using a heating pad or icy hot helps my knees a

lot!

Anyway Kerry, you should have a dr. look at your knee!

Jen

--- nancydewolf <nancydewolf@...> wrote:

> Kerry,

>

> If it is arthritis it may or may not be affected by

> cold and wet weather. Are your knees hot and red or

> even very cold when they're hurting and you haven't

> banged them at all? Are the joint areas swollen? If

> so, these are indications that it could be

> arthritis. Does the pain feel like a muscle strain

> or " something else " (something deeper maybe)? Do

> they hurt when you walk up steps or down steps or is

> it anytime, anywhere? I have rheumatoid arthritis

> and have had it since I was at least 12 or so. It

> has affected my knees in the past but not too much

> lately. When it is active I notice that stairs,

> especially going down bothers them. Also, I often

> have one knee acting up but not usually both at the

> same time. Other people have both at the same time.

> Rheumatoid arthritis varies tremendously from

> individual to individual. My flares are not normally

> influenced by weather. The pain is often more of an

> ache, deep in the body (deep in the joints) and

> definitely not a muscle strain kind of pain. Usually

> it is a dull ache I can ignore, sometimes I have to

> take Motrin to quiet it, sometimes it is screaming

> (and nothing helps). Often when I try to make the

> flaring joint work (like going up and down stairs or

> trying to open a bottle with my fingers when they

> are flaring) I get very sharp pains until I stop

> (then I just have the ache again, a little louder

> for a while). If it is arthritis then doctors

> recommend that you rest affected joints during

> active flares because you can cause more damage

> then. I can usually still swim (which is highly

> recommended for arthritis) but definitely no step

> aerobics. When it is really bad I'm in too much pain

> and too fatigued to do any exercise so I just wait

> for it to pass and take it easy (thankfully that

> doesn't happen too often; my RA goes in and out of

> remission but most days I'm good to do whatever I

> want and can easily ignore the ache). If any of this

> sounds familiar then you might want to have a doctor

> check it out to make sure you're exercising safely

> for arthritic joints. Good luck!

>

>

>

> Re: Monday, tues, wed &

> knee

>

>

>

> Hi Jen,

> I guess I could have strained it, on one of my

> other lists I was asked if I could have arthritis in

> my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt when

> it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility. I'm

> hoping it's just a strain.

> Thanks,

> Kerry

>

> Jen wrote:

> Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with

> you you probably just strained it. Try not to do

> anything too hard on them for a while and watch how

> you do everyday things so that you won't strain it

> again.

>

> Take care,

>

> Jen

>

>

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Hi Jen,

Your knee experiences do not sound like much fun.

Thank you for the advice to have a Dr. look at my knee I plan on it,

but can't get in for a physical until December the 19th. Silly me I

had an appointment on the 17th of Oct but wrote down my appointment

for Nov, instead of Oct. now I have to wait longer....grrrrrr.....

Kerry

Jen wrote:

| Hi , I have Osteo Arthritis and that's

| different from rheumatoid arthritis and the causes are

| different as well.

|

| I hurt my left knee when doing Judo - I pulled

| the ligament in my knee and after that my knee cap

| would dislocate...after a while I got Osteo arthritis

| in my knee...actually I have arthritic spurs under my

| knee cap...NOT much fun.

|

| Using a heating pad or icy hot helps my knees a

| lot!

|

| Anyway Kerry, you should have a dr. look at your knee!

|

| Jen

[Guest guest]

OUCH! I didn't know (until I read this and another post, from Tonya I think) that osteo was caused by issues in exercising (almost wrote "caused by exercise" but I know it isn't that). Thanks for the education and I hope you and others dealing with this can find relief!

Re: Monday, tues, wed & > knee> > > > Hi Jen,> I guess I could have strained it, on one of my> other lists I was asked if I could have arthritis in> my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt when> it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility. I'm> hoping it's just a strain.> Thanks,> Kerry> > Jen wrote:> Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with> you you probably just strained it. Try not to do> anything too hard on them for a while and watch how> you do everyday things so that you won't strain it> again.> > Take care,> > Jen> >

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Well my osteoarthritis was caused from my knee

dislocating because my knee caps are on the outside

(side) of my knee rather than in the middle -- the

sports medicine Dr. I went to told me that 1 and 4

girls have that problem... I started having mine when

I was 13 and took a Judo class. During one of the

trips I pulled the ligaments in my knee then after

that it started dislocating but it always came back

into the socket.

So Osteo-arthritis can be caused my an injury or

high impact exercise etc.... not always exercise

though...

Jen

--- nancydewolf <nancydewolf@...> wrote:

> OUCH! I didn't know (until I read this and another

> post, from Tonya I think) that osteo was caused by

> issues in exercising (almost wrote " caused by

> exercise " but I know it isn't that). Thanks for the

> education and I hope you and others dealing with

> this can find relief!

>

>

>

>

> Re: Monday, tues, wed

> &

> > knee

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Jen,

> > I guess I could have strained it, on one of my

> > other lists I was asked if I could have

> arthritis in

> > my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt when

> > it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility.

> I'm

> > hoping it's just a strain.

> > Thanks,

> > Kerry

> >

> > Jen wrote:

> > Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with

> > you you probably just strained it. Try not to do

> > anything too hard on them for a while and watch

> how

> > you do everyday things so that you won't strain

> it

> > again.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Jen

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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More ouch!!! And again, thanks for more information, always glad to learn more. But ouch on that knee... ooh the thought of it dislocating... ouch!

Re: Monday, tues, wed> & > > knee> > > > > > > > Hi Jen,> > I guess I could have strained it, on one of my> > other lists I was asked if I could have> arthritis in> > my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt when> > it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility.> I'm> > hoping it's just a strain.> > Thanks,> > Kerry> > > > Jen wrote:> > Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with> > you you probably just strained it. Try not to do> > anything too hard on them for a while and watch> how> > you do everyday things so that you won't strain> it> > again.> > > > Take care,> > > > Jen> > > > > > > >

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yeah first time it happened I was in Jr. High

School and I couldn't walk for about a week...up til

then I had perfect attendence! Luckily I still got my

attendence award at the end of the year!

Both of my knees are aching now because it dropped

down into the 30's in Michigan

Jen

--- nancydewolf <nancydewolf@...> wrote:

> More ouch!!! And again, thanks for more information,

> always glad to learn more. But ouch on that knee...

> ooh the thought of it dislocating... ouch!

>

>

>

> Re: Monday, tues,

> wed

> > &

> > > knee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Jen,

> > > I guess I could have strained it, on one of my

> > > other lists I was asked if I could have

> > arthritis in

> > > my knee. I have noticed that my knees hurt

> when

> > > it's cold out, so maybe that's a possibility.

> > I'm

> > > hoping it's just a strain.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Kerry

> > >

> > > Jen wrote:

> > > Hi Kerry, well I do have bad knees...but with

> > > you you probably just strained it. Try not to

> do

> > > anything too hard on them for a while and

> watch

> > how

> > > you do everyday things so that you won't

> strain

> > it

> > > again.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > >

> > > Jen

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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