Re: Re: Plaque

[Guest guest]

And that's fine Simon. Everyone can believe and try what ever they want....

when they want. It's okay.... It really is not that deep.

Re: Plaque

On 1/3/2008, " thesooodler " (thesoodler@...) wrote:

>> I, for one, do NOT believe that tripe and mummery about so called

>> " Plaque " building up in one's colon.

Then " " msjenwilson@... responded:

> The stuff I've seen come out of me can be called plague, stuff,

> bowels or whatever. I just know that I feel 100% better since I've

> gotten whatever it is out.

First, the plaque doesn't build up in the COLON, it builds up in the

SMALL INTESTINE. It amazes me that people discuss 'colon cleasning'

without making the distinction. Enemas only reach the lower part of the

colon... 'High enemas' can reach the full colon, and 'colonics' are

essentially just a 'continuous high enema' for the duration of the colonic.

I only recommend enemas and colonics for extreme cases where immediate

relief is needed and the colon is NOT doing its job.

The best way to cleanse the colon is to cleanse the entire digestive

tract, mouth to anus, and the best way to do that is using a combination

of different things. There are two cardinal rules that you must follow

if you want to be successful in doing any serious cleaning program:

1. GET THE BOWELS MOVING FIRST.

Don't begin any serious cleansing program - this includes herbal, clay,

charcoal, or any combination thereof - without first making sure your

bowels are moving regularly. Regularly means at least 3-4 bowel

movements a day, and in GENERAL (not everyone is the same), you should

have one bowel movement upon arising, and one bowel movement within an

hour AFTER each meal.

Dr. Schulze's program/products are what I use personally and recommend,

and I generalized these two rules are from his program, although he

didn't (and doesn't claim to have) originate(d) the idea. His Intestinal

Formula #1 is an herbal product designed to 'get the bowels moving', and

you stay on this product, increasing the dosage each day, until you

accomplish this. Then, and only then, do you move on to the real cleansing.

http://www.herbdoc.com/p22.asp

This is critical, because this is the main elimination pathway, and if

it isn't working properly, then the toxins that are released during a

cleanse will not have anywhere to go, and you WILL wind up sicker than

before - even to the point of being life threatening, in some cases.

2. KEEP THE BOWELS MOVING.

Once the bowels are moving, and you have started the cleanse, it is now

vitally important to make sure they stay that way. You should normally

be able to keep them moving by simply adjusting the amount of water you

drink in between meals (don't drink WITH meals), but you can use

products like homozon for cases where they may get temporarily stuck due

to things like 'too much clay and not enough water', etc.

Once you are at step 2, you are strongly encouraged to do a series of

liver/gall bladder cleanses. The liver is responsible for pretty much

every bio-chemical process in your body, and its proper funtioning is

second in importance only to the digestive tract, for proper health.

Everything after this is just gravy... 99.99% of all health problems

vanish just by PROPERLY cleansing the digestive tract and the liver/gall

bladder.

Of course, all of this is for naught if you don't change your lifestyle,

which is what got you sick in the first place.

For this, I highly recommend learning about 'Metabolic Typing', becasue

this is the way to discover what are the proper foods you should be eating.

Here is a link to a free mini-course that supposedly helps you to

determine it, but I haven't taken it yet (just signed up).

http://www.youngafter50.com

There are other sources (google is your friend) for learning about it

and how to determine yours.

It is *similar* to 'the blood type diet' that you may have heard of, but

it addresses the cases that don't respond to the blood type diet. Every

person metabolic type is unique, and you cannot go by blood type alone.

Sometimes it is as simple as removing one food that you are eating

(potatos, grains, etc). Some people NEED animal proteins, some don't...

it is best to find out.

[Guest guest]

Edie,

I agree with you 100 percent. I think that enemas work

as well as anything else.

If I may ask you a question---Several years ago I

purchased your CD on enemas from Amazon.com. It was

really great! Any plans for a follow-up CD in the

future?

Trudy

--- Edie Webber <ediewebber@...> wrote:

> Jolene, I agree with you, I'm a 'bottom up' colon

> cleansing person.

> I don't want to inject chemicals or bowel/intestinal

> stimulants

> orally, that's just me. I'm skeptical about colon

> cleansing programs

> that, basically, are just trying to sell products.

> I'll take the

> $12.00 enema bag any day and occasional colonics if

> needed. Again,

> no offense to anyone else, but I think some of the

> 'rope' and stuff

> comes from people taking these so-called cleansers.

> This said, some

> of the strictly 'natural' fruit, juice and other

> strictly natural

> cleansing programs probably do have some benefit in

> combination with

> enemas.

>

> In an earlier post Robin wrote, and I quote: " Now

> about the plaque

> issue, I have a question for the group. Has anyone

> ever seen this ropey material when not using these

> products? "

>

> That question in itself says a lot.

>

> Edie

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi Simon,

> > > >

> > > > I'm don't agree that it seems obvious. First

> of all, I don't

> use

> > > > antimicrobials in my colonic water, so I think

> it's pretty

> hard

> > to

> > > wash all

> > > > the bacteria out with just water. Also, I

> suspect the

> bacteria

> > in

> > > the

> > > > colon gets there from several sources (just

> like in the

> mouth).

> > > Using

> > > > Listerine in the mouth really does kill the

> germs (this has

> been

> > > shown with

> > > > empirical data), but also, immediately after

> the mouthwash is

> > spit

> > > out,

> > > > bacteria immediately start showing up again

> (this has also

> been

> > > shown with

> > > > empirical data). I suspect the same holds

> true in the colon.

> > > >

> > > > The medical profession has recently discovered

> the purpose of

> the

> > > appendix,

> > > > and lo and behold it turns out it is a little

> dynamo of a

> > > bacterial plant.

> > > > I'll bet after a colonic it goes into

> overdrive getting that

> > > bacteria well

> > > > on its way to being recolonized.

> > > >

> > > > The content of a bowel movement is 80%

> bacteria. After having

> a

> > > colonic, I

> > > > produce a normal bowel movement the following

> day. That

> bacteria

> > > making up

> > > > 80% of that bowel movement had to come from

> somewhere.

> > > >

> > > > My gastroenterologist tells me that if they

> take a cleaned out

> > > empty colon

> > > > and grind it up in a food processor, it turns

> out the content

> is

> > > 85%

> > > > bacteria. I suspect he used empirical data to

> confirm this.

> Now

> > > I don't

> > > > think we can fully draw the conclusion from

> this evidence that

> > the

> > > colon

> > > > wall participates in colonizing the colon with

> bacteria, but

> it

> > > sure seems

> > > > like a viable hypothesis.

> > > >

> > > > I have many, many clients who get colonics,

> who are NOT

> > > constipated, and

> > > > have no bowel impaction. These folks get

> colonics to restore

> > > their energy,

> > > > to restore the regular bowel habits, to get

> rid of their skin

> > > conditions,

> > > > to get rid of their headaches and migraines,

> to eliminate

> their

> > > brain fog,

> > > > and to eliminate their joint pain AND THEY

> WORK. I would just

> > > love to

> > > > understand why. Most of these people are

> already doing very

> well

> > > with diet

> > > > and lifestyle. It just seems that a series of

> colonics just

> put

> > > them right

> > > > over the edge and becomes the final key to

> bringing excellent

> > > results.

> > > >

> > > > Now most of the time, folks don't need all

> that many colonics

> to

> > > do the

> > > > trick. Sometimes (rarely) one will do it.

> Sometimes it has

> > taken

> > > as many

> > > > as 15 in relatively short succession. Most

> people find

> > > significant

> > > > improvement after only 3 or 4. Once my

> clients regain their

> > > health and

> > > > well being, they go on a maintenance schedule.

> For some that

> > ends

> > > up to be

> > > > only 2 or 3 times a year. For others who are

> dealing with

> Lyme,

> > > Lupus, or

> > > > other debilitating diseases, more often is

> helpful. No two

>

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