secondary metabolites(mycotoxins)

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This statement jumped out at me while reading something on the

cleveland ohio case.

" The mere presence of mold does not necessary mean that there are

mycotoxins or spores in the air. mycotoxins are secondary metabolites

of certain types of mold. (a secondary metabolite is a product

produced by an organism that is not necessary to sustain its life).

this means that certain types of mold do not produce mycotoxins at

all and those that do, mainly produce mycotoxins when there are

unfaverable enviromental condictions such as low moisture or nutrient

deficiency. "

I'm convienced that like in my first home, mainly stachybotrys mold,

that stachy can be the one that survives with the least faverable

condictions. and maybe its mycotoxins are so potent because of this.

I'm convienced that all toxin produceing molds put out mycotoxins

(secondary metabolites while they are growing and eating because they

have food and water and this is their defence machanisium. I believe

and withnessed the mycotoxins being within about 2-3 feet of

stachybotrys mold while it was growing, based on the effects I got

from getting that close to it even with a railroad issued mask on.

I could compare it to a swarm of bees around a beehive. when the

moisture than starts dring up, the mycotoxins(secondary metabolites

and the spores (also with mycotoxins attached to them) are than

released into the air. when the queen bee is killed, or the beehive

is took away, the bees fly away and start again in another area.

my stachy home is from roof leaks, some spots are worse than others,

but I can defenately relate my symptoms to raining, drying, windy,

raining, drying, windy. more rain, more growing, more drying, more

airborn, stirred up by windy days. more effected by the dry spores

and myco's.

now with the second home and constant water sorce there, while I

lived there for the 4 months with very high amounts of

aspergillus,penicillium, alternaria, etc. spring through beganning of

summer, these molds were eating and putting out toxins the whole

time. turning on the ac provided a extra blast , and vacumming the

moldy carpets and stirring up the secondary metabolites that settled

there also added to amount exposed to.

some of these molds are know to release spores while eating, so their

secondary metabolites would also be released to fly around anywhere.

could stachy be the strongest at overtakeing space because it keeps

its mycotoxins close by while eating to gard its territory?

so would a home with limited moisture problems or constant drying

inbetween rains actually be the perfect growing needs of

stachybotrys ? wet-grow, dry-release spores and myco's, airborne-

blown around by wind

rain- grows again-starts again.

is the strain of mold more toxic by its ability to survive under

unfaverable condictions/

could the worse the condictions cause the mycotoxins to become more

toxic?

this is also where long term exposure to even lower amounts of stachy

can be very bad.

on again, off again depending on windy days stirring up dry spores

and myco's, stuck inside yoour home

that remain toxic for years, and the build up of more over time from

rain, growing, drying, putting out more.

after a while, symptoms become constant instead of on and off. in the

start, a dose would cause illness for about 3-4 days, mabye a day or

two of felling better, than start again. this was from old spores and

myco's getting stirred up on windy days, and the illnesses slowly

became worse and more constant as mold spores and myco's accumalated

in the home. some illnesses this caused where immeditly and others

slowly worked on me. this is just my thoughts based on my experience.

and I do believe that just know that molds found in your home that

are known to produce mycotoxins are proff that you have been exposed

to them.

heres some info. on secondary metabolites(mycotoxins)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_metabolite

http://enhs.umn.edu/5103/molds/molecular.html

(http://home.earthlink.net/~billcasale/Classes/UR/BIOL260%20Study%

20Guides/UR_BIOL260_sg_secondary%20metabolites.htm)