Re: Mycotoxins and autism (long)

[Guest guest]

I only have a partial understanding, but I will go point by point.

>

> I have been treating my autistic son " biomedically "

> (DAN! protocol). He regressed from lead exposure.

> We remodeled a home due to mold. It was causing

> breathing problems in his brother. Obviously, the

> remodeling did not help the mold problem and the lead

> it stirred up did not help his brother. We did not live

> in the house while the work was being done.

>

> Anyway...back to autism...my son is making some gains from

> the biomedical interventions. They are not as quick as his

> doctor or I would expect for all that we are doing/have done.

Re-exposure has done things like that to my family. Treatment should be working

better,

but the neurotoxins my son was exposed to (hidden, I had no idea they were

there,

medical mystery) prevented him from making better progress.

>

> I just received my Mold Warriors book (only on chapter 3)

> but I have a question or two:

> --Can mycotoxins still be considered even though my autistic

> son does not seem to have mold allergy-type symptoms like

> his brother (sneezing, wheezing, itchy eyes, etc)?

Yes. Mycotoxin poisoning is not the same as allergy. I have serious allergy

problems, and

less serious toxin problems ( at this point). Some people have NO allergy, yet

are disabled

by the mycotoxins. Some have infection, and easily get re-infected from the

environment.

Some have allergy. Shoemaker is a great place to find out about the toxin part

of it, many

people with the allergies get much better after Shoemaker's treatment.

> Basically,

> could mycotoxins cause autistic symptoms alone (digestive issues,

> lack of socialization, etc)?

I don't know. They are severe neurotoxins, and affect people differently. I have

it on good

authority that my allergist has turned around a girl that was very autistic ( by

all diagnostic

scales) and is now attending school, doing well. not entirely normal, but

functional and

interacting. Not autistic anymore by the same scales.

>My older son does not have any

> mold/mycotoxin illness that I suspect. He only has problems

> (allergic type symptoms) if he is in a moldy area. We are no

> longer living in the *STINKING* house.

My allergist recognises the Allergic Fungal Sinusitis thing, and treats for

that. Mayo clinic,

1999 on, published.

> --My son *never* gets sick since he regressed. Is this typical

> for mycotoxic people?

Very much so. the immune system is in overdrive. Many people have that, and when

their

toxin load decreases enough, they catch a cold. usually I hear this from people

taking CSM

from Shoemaker.

> --Can one person in the family be affected while others are not?

Yes, the genetics are not a one size fits all kind of thing. Since it may be a

problem in

being able to get rid of toxins and also in neutralizing them, there are several

places for

this to go wrong. In my family, everyone is affected in some way, 2 of us the

same (but not

to the same degree) and the other 2 each differently.

> (my autistic son is not able to follow directions enough to do

> the VCS)? I took it and it seemed " normal " , although I answered

> the vision question wrong so the test was not valid. Anyone

> know how to get this error fixed??? I should probably have

> my older son and my hubby do it to see what type of results

> we get.

You could try emailing the office, and see what they can do about it.

>

> Thanks!!!

>

>

I don't go online to the group daily, but you can backchannel me if you want to.

[Guest guest]

" djajhooten " wrote:

> I just received my Mold Warriors book (only on chapter 3) but I have

a question or two:

--Can mycotoxins still be considered even though my autistic

son does not seem to have mold allergy-type symptoms like

his brother (sneezing, wheezing, itchy eyes, etc)? Basically,

could mycotoxins cause autistic symptoms alone (digestive issues,

lack of socialization, etc)?

>

Bringing along contaminated possessions after moving out of that

stinking house would be more than enough to do it to me.

I was the lucky one to have the " double dreaded mold gene " in my

family. The rest of them don't have the problem, which leads them to

conclude: " If it doesn't bother me - it's all in your head " .

-

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My son is autistic as well, lots of issues including gastro, he is making

more progress after moving out of the " mold garden " but as you know, these

kiddos usually have additional medical issues in addition to autism. I have

recently completed training for learning how to write IEP's and would be happy

to

guide you through the process of getting help and dealing with your school

district. There are a couple of us on this board which share autism info and

new treatments etc. So sorry to hear about all problems your family is going

through.

In a message dated 5/10/2006 11:04:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dhooten@... writes:

I have been treating my autistic son " biomedically "

(DAN! protocol). He regressed from lead exposure.

We remodeled a home due to mold. It was causing

breathing problems in his brother. Obviously, the

remodeling did not help the mold problem and the lead

it stirred up did not help his brother. We did not live

in the house while the work was being done.

Anyway...back to autism...my son is making some gains from

the biomedical interventions. They are not as quick as his

doctor or I would expect for all that we are doing/have done.

I just received my Mold Warriors book (only on chapter 3)

but I have a question or two:

--Can mycotoxins still be considered even though my autistic

son does not seem to have mold allergy-type symptoms like

his brother (sneezing, wheezing, itchy eyes, etc)? Basically,

could mycotoxins cause autistic symptoms alone (digestive issues,

lack of socialization, etc)? My older son does not have any

mold/mycotoxin illness that I suspect. He only has problems

(allergic type symptoms) if he is in a moldy area. We are no

longer living in the *STINKING* house.

--My son *never* gets sick since he regressed. Is this typical

for mycotoxic people?

--Can one person in the family be affected while others are not?

(my autistic son is not able to follow directions enough to do

the VCS)? I took it and it seemed " normal " , although I answered

the vision question wrong so the test was not valid. Anyone

know how to get this error fixed??? I should probably have

my older son and my hubby do it to see what type of results

we get.

Thanks!!!

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[Guest guest]

>

> > I just received my Mold Warriors book (only on chapter 3) but I have

> a question or two:

> --Can mycotoxins still be considered even though my autistic

> son does not seem to have mold allergy-type symptoms like

> his brother (sneezing, wheezing, itchy eyes, etc)? Basically,

> could mycotoxins cause autistic symptoms alone (digestive issues,

> lack of socialization, etc)?

> >

>

> Bringing along contaminated possessions after moving out of that

> stinking house would be more than enough to do it to me.

> I was the lucky one to have the " double dreaded mold gene " in my

> family. The rest of them don't have the problem, which leads them to

> conclude: " If it doesn't bother me - it's all in your head " .

> -

>

I second that. And congratulations to for taking this whole thing very

seriously.

You are the only one that is likely to be proactive in taking care of your

children, who

otherwise have no recourse. Many doctors also say " it must be in your head,

since I have

not heard of such a thing " .

This type of teaching by the medical profession is very damaging to true

progress and

innovation. Not to mention the suffering they inflict on us due to being close

minded and

refusing to even look it up.

Also sticking up for them at school and with the relatives is not easy, even if

the family

wants to be supportive, this is a complicated illness, with reactions that have

to be seen to

be believed.

[Guest guest]

It is good to hear that I am not pursuing a dead-end

avenue! My son's DAN! doc is more than willing to check

out the mycotoxin treatment route!!! As soon as my son

gets out of his cast (broke his arm a few weeks ago), we

will draw some blood and start treatment with CSM. This

might be a key to his **recovery**...I am excited there is

something else to try on him.

>

> > I just received my Mold Warriors book (only on chapter 3) but I

have

> a question or two:

> --Can mycotoxins still be considered even though my autistic

> son does not seem to have mold allergy-type symptoms like

> his brother (sneezing, wheezing, itchy eyes, etc)? Basically,

> could mycotoxins cause autistic symptoms alone (digestive issues,

> lack of socialization, etc)?

> >

>

> Bringing along contaminated possessions after moving out of that

> stinking house would be more than enough to do it to me.

> I was the lucky one to have the " double dreaded mold gene " in my

> family. The rest of them don't have the problem, which leads them

to

> conclude: " If it doesn't bother me - it's all in your head " .

> -

>

[Guest guest]

-Hi, I hope the best for you and your family, Im not a doctor, just

another moldy. I do believe that autisum is or can be caused by mold

exposure. I believe many illnesses that have no known cure are caused

by mold/mycotoxins. like SIDS, Lupas, MS, and very possably

diabieties. I've read that eating a few fresh cloves of raw garlic

will help get toxins out of your body you might not smell the best

but if your sons wiil at least chew on it and swallow a few juices

from it may help. also milk thisle may help. good

luck.

-- In

, " djajhooten " <dhooten@...> wrote:

>

> It is good to hear that I am not pursuing a dead-end

> avenue! My son's DAN! doc is more than willing to check

> out the mycotoxin treatment route!!! As soon as my son

> gets out of his cast (broke his arm a few weeks ago), we

> will draw some blood and start treatment with CSM. This

> might be a key to his **recovery**...I am excited there is

> something else to try on him.

>

>

>

> >

> > > I just received my Mold Warriors book (only on chapter 3) but I

> have

> > a question or two:

> > --Can mycotoxins still be considered even though my autistic

> > son does not seem to have mold allergy-type symptoms like

> > his brother (sneezing, wheezing, itchy eyes, etc)? Basically,

> > could mycotoxins cause autistic symptoms alone (digestive issues,

> > lack of socialization, etc)?

> > >

> >

> > Bringing along contaminated possessions after moving out of

that

> > stinking house would be more than enough to do it to me.

> > I was the lucky one to have the " double dreaded mold gene " in my

> > family. The rest of them don't have the problem, which leads them

> to

> > conclude: " If it doesn't bother me - it's all in your head " .

> > -

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nothing works as well as cholestyramine for removing mycotoxins from

enterohepatic circulation. Garlic is good for many things, including

general detoxification, but you are comparing apples to oranges.

IMO, it would take a HELL of a lot of garlic to do the good

cholestyramine does. I have been taking garlic for years and when I

was in the worst period for mold exposure (last fall) I was in a

downward spiral. Cholestyramine sucked the worst of it out of me.. I

still have a lot of issues but they are very much smaller and more

manageable now. But if I stop taking cholestyramine and get new

exposure, they start coming back, and it doesn't take much..

He should read about cholestyramine and its ability to bind

circulating mycotoxins out of the bile and ask his doctor if it might

help his child (after testing his HLA-DR type to see if he is one of

the 24% of us who have the suceptible genotypes.)

> diabieties. I've read that eating a few fresh cloves of raw garlic

> will help get toxins out of your body you might not smell the best

....