Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 There's a supplier who sent me the following list of " natural " aroma chemicals. I know some are, but I suspect others fit his definition of natural, but not ours. I have my ideas, I'd like to hear some feedback from a chemist, por favor. Not sure if this will come across in all mainreaders, or on the website, but I'll put the ones I feel are natural, naturally-fermented, or produced in a rather innocuous manner from natural materials marked in bold: Acetoin Natural 513-86-0 2008 Acetyl Proprionyl Natural 600-14-6 2841 Alcohol C-6 Natural 111-27-3 2567 Aldehyde C-6 Natural 66-25-1 2557 Aldehyde C-14 Natural 124-25-4 2763 Allyl Caproate Natural 123-68-2 2032 Benzaldehyde Natural 100-52-7 2127 alpha-Bisabolol Natural 515-69-5 Citral Natural 5392-40-5 2303 beta-Damascenone Natural 23696-85-7 3420 2, 4-Decadienal Natural 2363-88-4 3135 gamma-Decalactone Natural 706-14-9 2360 Diacetyl Natural 431-03-8 2370 Dimethyl Anthranilate Natural 85-91-6 2718 Dimethyl Sulfide Natural 75-18-3 2746 Ethyl Caproate Natural 123-66-0 2439 Ethyl Cinnamate Natural 103-36-6 2430 Ethyl Levulinate Natural 539-88-8 2442 Geranyl Acetate Natural 105-87-3 2509 Heliotropine Natural 120-57-0 2911 trans-2-Hexenal Natural 6728-26-3 2560 trans-2-Hexenol Natural 2305-21-7 2562 cis-3-Hexenol Natural 928-96-1 2563 trans-2-Hexenyl Acetate Natural 2497-18-9 2564 cis-3-Hexenyl Acetate Natural 3681-71-8 3171 cis-3-Hexenyl Butyrate Natural 16491-36-4 3402 Hexyl Acetate Natural 142-92-7 2565 Ionone 100% Natural 127-41-3 2594 alpha-Ionone Natural 127-41-3 2594 beta-Ionone Natural 14901-07-6 2595 Isobutyl Alcohol Natural 78-83-1 2179 Isobutyl Butyrate Natural 539-90-2 2187 Linalool Natural 78-70-6 2635 Linalyl Acetate Natural 115-95-7 2636 Maltol Natural 118-71-8 2656 Methyl Anthranilate Natural 134-20-3 2682 Methyl Butyrate Natural 623-42-7 2693 Methyl Cinnamate Natural 103-26-4 2698 Methyl Cyclopentenolone Natural 765-70-8 2700 Neryl Acetate Natural 141-12-8 2773 Ocimene Natural 13877-91-3 gamma-Octalactone Natural 104-50-7 2796 1- Octen-3-ol Natural 3391-86-4 2805 Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol Natural 60-12-8 2858 Propionic Acid Natural 79-09-4 2924 Pyrazine, 2,3,5-Trimethyl Natural 14667-55-1 3244 Raspberry Ketone Natural 104-20-1 2672 Strawberry Furanone Natural 3658-77-3 3174 (and all PG solutions) Terpinen-4-ol Natural 562-74-3 2248 gamma-Undecalactone Natural 104-67-6 3091 Vanillin Ex Clove 121-33-5 3107 Anya McCoy Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org Natural Perfumers Chat Group / ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/478 - Release Date: 10/17/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 > > There's a supplier who sent me the following list > of " natural " aroma chemicals. I know some are, > but I suspect others fit his definition of > natural, but not ours. I have my ideas, I'd like > to hear some feedback from a chemist, por favor. > Not sure if this will come across in all > mainreaders, or on the website, but I'll put the > ones I feel are natural, naturally-fermented, or > produced in a rather innocuous manner from natural materials marked in bold: > <<<list deleted for space>>> Nothing in bold visible to me. The only one I can see that seems to derive from nature is vanillin. Since it says " ex clove " this means that the vanillin was made from eugenol - I believe a multi-step process, and the way most vanillin used to be made - now it's mostly processed from guaiacol. I would suspect that " natural " here probably means either: " quite similar to the chemical as found in nature " , or " derived from a chemical that was processed from a chemical that was at one point found in a plant. Many of these would be way too costly to actually process from natural aromatics containing them, and some may be petroleum derived. Not sure why you want to go down this road.. Tisserand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 At 09:45 PM 10/17/2006, you wrote: > > > > > There's a supplier who sent me the following list > > of " natural " aroma chemicals. I know some are, > > but I suspect others fit his definition of > > natural, but not ours. I have my ideas, I'd like > > to hear some feedback from a chemist, por favor. > > Not sure if this will come across in all > > mainreaders, or on the website, but I'll put the > > ones I feel are natural, naturally-fermented, or > > produced in a rather innocuous manner from natural materials > marked in bold: > > ><<<list deleted for space>>> > >Nothing in bold visible to me. The only one I can see that seems to >derive from nature is >vanillin. Since it says " ex clove " this means that the vanillin was >made from eugenol - I >believe a multi-step process, and the way most vanillin used to be >made - now it's mostly >processed from guaiacol. > >I would suspect that " natural " here probably means either: " quite >similar to the chemical as >found in nature " , or " derived from a chemical that was processed >from a chemical that was >at one point found in a plant. Many of these would be way too costly >to actually process >from natural aromatics containing them, and some may be petroleum derived. > >Not sure why you want to go down this road.. Thanks for the input, , the fact that a perfume chemist (who is really busy right now, so I don't want to bother him) told me that there are a lot of naturally-derived isolates, such as benzaldehyde, allyl caproate, heliotropine, etc. do exist. I believe the main process used is fermentation. I am really naive about all this, and just want to find if they really exist. The vanillin is an easy one, that I knew. There is also vanillin produced from rotten wood. Not so good. Ther eis a ionone that smells like violets that can be isolated from the cassie flower naturally I've heard. I can't remember the other sources of the other natural isolates. If you search the archives for tony burfield you may find some references. I have some private emails from him that expand further. There are some natural perfumers that are looking into using these, and although I'll probably never do so myself, since I adore the beauty of the naturals in all their complexity, I have to know about them. Anya McCoy Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://anyasgarden.com Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org Natural Perfumers Chat Group / ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/478 - Release Date: 10/17/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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