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-when I had a window ac, I took it out every year and took the back

of and use presser hose to clean threw front coils and drain tray

area, being careful not to get elictrical wet.-- In

, " bhp355 " <zippy890@...> wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> We use a window unit AC to cool our home.

> If you have one of these, I would be quite

> cautious. I know of no really good way to

> clean them.

>

> They should be designed so that a person

> could open the interior ducts and squirrel

> cage fan to clean. The squirrel cage fan

> should even be removable.

>

> But nobody thinks of mold in designing

> these things. It's just make them as cheap

> as you can. Maybe buying a cheap one every

> two years is the real answer?

>

> Anyway, keeping the humidity low in your

> house helps, as that is what feeds mold growth

> on the duct work.

>

> I have seen older units spitting out black mold

> particles into the house the size of

> marbles(!) The owner did not

> know what they were, however, and thought they

> were just pieces of insulation that was old and

> cracking. Sheesh !

>

> I would also be VERY alert to whether the vent

> was opened or closed to the outside. It should

> be kept CLOSED ! Window unit AC's are built to

> throw water from a drain pan onto heat dissipation

> coils, if they don't do this their life is shortened

> and they may quickly burn out. However, the drain

> pan is a really good breeding ground for molds.

> So to suck air through a vent, over the drain pan,

> which can be full of mold, is just about the worst

> situation an engineer could design for human health,

> in the way these machines are used in the real world.

>

> With the vent CLOSED, however, there should be little

> problem as most of the mold would be on the

> outside of the house (at least that is my belief

> from observation).

>

> Well, I'm no expert, but that's my 2 cents from

> experience.

>

> Zippy

>

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It helps to defrost them regularly. Build up frost can cause moisture. I

poured about a gallon of water out of the window AC where I used to work after

it defrosted. Too bad they don't have heat settings to dry them. Maybe when

not in use a small clip on fan can blow air inside to dry it faster?

Lourdes " Sal " Salvador, salvadorlourdes@...

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My friend takes my ac apart a couple times during the season and cleans it

with white vinegar.Even sprays coils with it. Plus be carefull on your window

sill. I was sick for two months before I realised for some reason water and

condensation built up on my window sill so I wipe under it a few times a day

with

a washcloth pushed in by a butter knife. The things we do !!

Janet

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> drill holes in the bottom of the drip pan that goes outside on your

window AC

> Janet

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No ! No ! Janet.

The drip pan is designed to contain a small amount of water.

The fan blades dip into the water and throw it up on the heat

dissipation coils to help them dissipate heat through evaporative

cooling. If is the air conditioner does not do this, it can

burn your unit up real fast.

Besides, the mold in the drip pan should theoretically not be

a problem - so long as the vent stays CLOSED.

It is the duct work off the cooling coils that seems to be

the biggest problem from my observation (those are the ducts

where the cool air blows out), and the squirrel cage fan that

blows the cool air out. You have to run your hand down in the

unit to feel the squirrel cage.

I was surprised, but the cooling coils don't seem to be a

big source of mold. They looked really clean to me, but I

would like to see an old unit that was never cleaned sliced

open to get more information.

I guess most people don't use window units anymore. I'm

still living in the Bronze age ;)

Best,

Zippy

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Zippy,

There is nothing wrong with making holes on the bottom of a window AC (at

the extreme exterior end) to let the water leak out. In fact, some models

still come with a removable rubber plug. I have been letting my window AC

units drain for years without any problem whatsoever. (Just don't make any

holes where the water will drip indoors!)

You are correct about the purpose of the stagnant water pond in newer AC

units: it is to provide increased heat loss from the compresor (condenser)

coil. The splash ring spins around in the mucky pond and flings water onto

the hot coil; the evaporation takes heat away from the coil. This improves

the efficiency of the compressor so it meets the ever increasingly stringent

federal standards.

As sometimes happens, meeting energy standards means losing air quality

(Many lose sight of the fact that it costs energy and money for good IAQ.)

The puddle in the AC is always full of mold, insects (especially mosquitos),

etc. And if you open the air vent, the aerosol from the splash ring in the

pond water is sucked in, another great idea. (I agree, NEVER open the " fresh

air " vent.)

Again, the most important feature of any AC is the filtration, and NO

portable units come with an adequate filter. You MUST use supplemental

filtration at the intake side. I also agree that it is a great idea to take

the unit out of its case and disinfect it annually.

So drill on, but don't stand under anyone's dripping AC unit, and hold your

breath if you walk close by one with a splash ring.(One more thing to worry

about!)

C. May

May Indoor Air Investigations LLC

1522 Cambridge Street

Cambridge, MA 02139

617-354-1055

www.mayindoorair.com

www.myhouseiskillingme.com

>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:55:38 -0000

>From: " bhp355 " <zippy890@...>

>Subject: Re: Window Unit AC

>

> drill holes in the bottom of the drip pan that goes outside on your

window AC

> Janet

----------------------------------------

>No ! No ! Janet.

>The drip pan is designed to contain a small amount of water.

>The fan blades dip into the water and throw it up on the heat

>dissipation coils to help them dissipate heat through evaporative

>cooling. If is the air conditioner does not do this, it can

>burn your unit up real fast.

>Besides, the mold in the drip pan should theoretically not be

>a problem - so long as the vent stays CLOSED.....<snip>

>Best,

>Zippy

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Jeff,

Thank you for that correction. I was going with the party

line on it burning out your unit. I'm glad to hear you have

been doing this with no problems.

Best,

Zippy

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>

> Zippy,

>

> There is nothing wrong with making holes on the bottom of a window

AC (at

> the extreme exterior end) to let the water leak out. In fact, some

models

> still come with a removable rubber plug. I have been letting my

window AC

> units drain for years without any problem whatsoever. (Just don't

make any

> holes where the water will drip indoors!)

>

> You are correct about the purpose of the stagnant water pond in

newer AC

> units: it is to provide increased heat loss from the compresor

(condenser)

> coil. The splash ring spins around in the mucky pond and flings

water onto

> the hot coil; the evaporation takes heat away from the coil. This

improves

> the efficiency of the compressor so it meets the ever increasingly

stringent

> federal standards.

>

> As sometimes happens, meeting energy standards means losing air

quality

> (Many lose sight of the fact that it costs energy and money for

good IAQ.)

> The puddle in the AC is always full of mold, insects (especially

mosquitos),

> etc. And if you open the air vent, the aerosol from the splash ring

in the

> pond water is sucked in, another great idea. (I agree, NEVER open

the " fresh

> air " vent.)

>

> Again, the most important feature of any AC is the filtration, and

NO

> portable units come with an adequate filter. You MUST use

supplemental

> filtration at the intake side. I also agree that it is a great idea

to take

> the unit out of its case and disinfect it annually.

>

> So drill on, but don't stand under anyone's dripping AC unit, and

hold your

> breath if you walk close by one with a splash ring.(One more thing

to worry

> about!)

>

> C. May

> May Indoor Air Investigations LLC

> 1522 Cambridge Street

> Cambridge, MA 02139

> 617-354-1055

> www.mayindoorair.com

> www.myhouseiskillingme.com

>

>

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