Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Seing the intense interest and hot sharing of experiences about human smells, specially among the ladies, who are naturally more sensitive than men to the effect of smells, I have translated at last my Italian page on human pheromones. http://www.profumo.it/perfume/pheromone_perfume/human_pheromones.asp <http://www.profumo.it/perfume/pheromone_perfume/human_pheromones.asp> http://tinyurl.com/luflo <http://tinyurl.com/luflo> Many demands that raised from this thread will find therein an illuminating answer. I shall gratefuly welcome any signalation of mistake of orthograph or of style at salaam@... <mailto:salaam@...> , do not forget that I am French and do not write in my own language. Abdessalaam Attar www.profumo.it <http://www.profumo.it/> kodo, La Via del Profumo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 At 07:26 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote: >Seing the intense interest and hot sharing of experiences about human >smells, specially among the ladies, who are naturally more sensitive >than men to the effect of smells, I have translated at last my Italian >page on human pheromones. >http://www.profumo.it/perfume/pheromone_perfume/human_pheromones.asp ><http://www.profumo.it/perfume/pheromone_perfume/human_pheromones.asp> >http://tinyurl.com/luflo <http://tinyurl.com/luflo> >Many demands that raised from this thread will find therein an >illuminating answer. HI Salaam: I was just interviewed by a blogger, and I gave the main address for your site when I spoke about pheromones, now I'll send this link to the blogger for inclusion. >I shall gratefuly welcome any signalation of mistake of orthograph or of >style at salaam@... <mailto:salaam@...> , do not forget >that I am French and do not write in my own language. I'll have a look at it and give you feedback tomorrow. > Anya http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 > > > Seing the intense interest and hot sharing of experiences about human > smells, specially among the ladies, who are naturally more sensitive > than men to the effect of smells, I have translated at last my Italian > page on human pheromones. > http://www.profumo.it/perfume/pheromone_perfume/human_pheromones.asp > <http://www.profumo.it/perfume/pheromone_perfume/human_pheromones.asp > > http://tinyurl.com/luflo <http://tinyurl.com/luflo> > Many demands that raised from this thread will find therein an > illuminating answer. > > I shall gratefuly welcome any signalation of mistake of orthograph or of > style at salaam@... <mailto:salaam@...> , do not forget > that I am French and do not write in my own language. > > Abdessalaam Attar > Thank you very, very much for your time and effort, sharing all this information. Fascinating and interesting. Some of the things I know about, which only gives more credibility to that which is new. You are truly an expert in your field. Since you asked, your expression in the english language is flawless (as far as a native German can judge...)and I throughly enjoy your expression and style. Thanks again for sharing your expertise ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Thanks to you salaam we can all have a better education on scent, the vomeronasal organ and human pheromones. Extremely intelligent piece of work! I will not lie, I had to read a couple of times and get out the dictionary but that is why you are the expert on this and I'm not. Thank you also for all the work you put in translating this piece for us who needed it. Darlene D_D,_._,___ --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 I find this whole subject fascinating. I know there are studies showing human behavioral changes in response to artificial pheromones at very low levels. But I also remember that when artificial pheromones were first used in a commercial fragrance the results were, to say the least, disappointing, and the expected following in other fragrances consequently did not happen. At the same time, various animal-derived substances are still used in some perfumes, though how much of this is purely fragrance enhancement, and how much pheromonal signalling is a question that may not have a definitive answer. It has always seemed strange to me that we might need/want help from the animal kingdom in our fragrances in order to exude sexuality, while we go to great lengths to erase all traces of our natural body odor. Perhaps we want the pheromonal smell without the bacterial odors of perspiration, although when fresh these are not unpleasant, and are a part of our unique personal odor. This, as we have been saying, is the very thing that can be so attractive to our actual or potential partner. Should not our own natural body odor provide a unique animalic impetus to a fragrance? Tisserand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 > It has always seemed strange to me that we might need/want help from the animal kingdom in our fragrances in order to exude sexuality, while we go to great lengths to erase all traces of our natural body odor.............. This, as we have been saying, is the very thing that can be so attractive to our actual or potential partner.............Should not our own natural body odor provide a unique animalic impetus to a fragrance? > Tisserand Dear , as Jesus said, Man does not feed just on bread. He needs spiritual food as well. We have been made to think systematically by our modern western culture makers (money making culture), that perfume means sensuality and sexuality. I learned in the East that perfume means spirituality. Here is the key to our innate taste for the animal scents. Through the wearing of perfumes we seek to absorb and appropriate the perfect harmony of nature, and the different vital forces that it contains, in order to regenerate our own vital force and to reestablish our inner harmony. That is because perfume is source of sanity, exactly the contrary of what Suskin's book proposes. In this instinctive human search for balance, which does not belong to animals because they do not have our complex psyche (psychological disturbs) and because they do not commit acts that are contrary to their nature (bringing on themselves physical disturbs), the vital force of animals present in their scents is as important as the botanical one. This is one aspect of perfumetherapy (see: www.perfumetherapy.it <http://www.perfumetherapy.it/> ) similar to homeopathic, which by the way uses Muskdeer, castoreum and Ambergris. We love to live among flowers and plants and we need so much their presence that we bring them into our houses, exactly as we do with domestic animals. The lack of vegetal and animal presence that comes with the modern city life is very new and unique to the story of mankind. This renders our need for a " tridimentional " botanical and animal perfume all the more imperative to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 --- Tisserand <tisserand@...> wrote: > At the same time, various animal-derived substances > are still used in some perfumes, > though how much of this is purely fragrance > enhancement, and how much pheromonal > signalling is a question that may not have a > definitive answer. It just seems to me that animal pheromones must be so different from human pheromones. There's a reason we are not sexually attracted to animals as a rule. The characteristic smells of a species must have a great deal to do with why animals don't usually try to mate with animals from a species other than their own. This implies for me that the addition of animal materials to a perfume would not add pheromones which would have an effect on us. (I will be careful around female goats when I get a chance to try Pan though!) However, the smells themselves do have a powerful effect on fragrance. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 " I learned in the East that perfume means spirituality. Here is the key to our innate taste for the animal scents. Through the wearing of perfumes we seek to absorb and appropriate the perfect harmony of nature, and the different vital forces that it contains, in order to regenerate our own vital force and to reestablish our inner harmony " Dear All, Continuing in along this thread regarding pheromes, spirituality, etc. I love what was said, above, about absorbing different vital forces in order to perfect the harmony of nature. Absolutely, when we add animal essences, in non harmful and non exploitive ways to our natural perfumes we acknowledge and honor our animal companions who journey here on Earth with us, just as we honor the plant kingdom when we use plant essences. I also infuse and tincture stones into my creations, as I am sure some of you do, as well. I have tinctured clean snake skin for some of my perfumes because I am a health care provider and snakes coil around our medical caduceus. For me the serpent tincture imbues the aspects of healing and tranformation into my perfumes, albeit with no detectable odor. When there is an aspect of myself which no longer serves me, I use snake wisdom to assit me to shed it so that I may grow beyond my limitations. Metaphorical represenations appeal to me. Also, I advise some women who are interested in transfering their own pheromes into their perfumes to wear a cotton ball in their armpits or inside the bra for a few days, then tincture that to add perfumes. They can do this according to which phase of their hormonal/moon time cycle they wish to capture. All of this is endlessly fascinating... Best, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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