Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Posted September 5, 2006 I fing the whole thing is facinating, the way you have to set limits and the way you let it flow and evolve. --Fabienne Hi Fabienne, I so agree. Keeping the balance between those approaches is the (supreme) challenge, not to get sloppy, but also not to stifle intuition, even, once in a while, impulse,and also at some point the decisiveness to pronounce the formula complete. But anyway, you put it much better than that. e Quote
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Posted September 5, 2006 > Good question. At this point I'm doing small custom orders so the > amount I'll be using is only slightly larger than what I did for the > trial. I will probably just dip the toothpick a few times. At 50X the > amount it might made sense to tincture the jasmine sambac and just add > one drop at a time??? > > As I was mixing the blend it wasn't in my plan but was one of those > 'art of perfume' moments that seemed right. > > Elise > http://www.tambela.com > Thanks Elise Ruth Quote
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Posted September 5, 2006 There's no conflict here. Every art form includes the possibility of both technique and > creativity, the technique part being mostly what is taught, as the creativity can't be so > easily. > Yes I totally agree, with this, and the of course fact that one may or may not have a natural flair for making perfumes is key! Here's me hoping and praying I have a natural flair for perfumery. > Fragrance creation - as other art forms - can be difficult, especially in early stages, if there > is no technique on which to hang our creativity. As with drawing, I am blessed with a natural talent for drawing and painting but if nobody had ever shown me a simple technique for drawing a house it would have taken so much longer for my talent to develop if at all. >I guess just as there are " naive " artists, I would still be a " naive " artists if I had not been shown or had not studied. I " got good " at drawing and design because a) I practice loads & work hard, I study what other people do and pick up simple/new tedchniques and c) I was taught by qualified teachers. > some of us just want to follow our noses, and this works. Others may need more guidance > and structure, though technique alone is probably not enough to produce great art. thats right! flair and a keen eye/nose/ear whatever sense it is which is used > Another way to view this - technique may play a greater role in figuring out an accord, but > embellishing it is a much more creative process, and the inital impulse is also essentially > creative. > > Tisserand > I think that with flair and correct application comes success in the Arts! Ruth Quote
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Posted September 5, 2006 > > > > Intuition is huge in my work. If I am adding drops to > > an initial blend, and I have say, three written down > > for my rough draft, and while actually creating the > > blend, I am compelled to add five, I always add five. > > I trust my inner voice. > > It isn't a new age air brained thing as some may > > think. I an not a new age kinda gal. But I do believe > > in following an instinct. and sometimes the analytical > > brain can be a poor artist, in comparison to the > > imagination of the spirit of creation. > > > > Both are needed, of course. But to rely to rigidly on > > structure, the artistry gets lost. > . > > > > Peace, Z........ > > > I was watching this thread, hoping someone would bring up the value > of intuition. Not to knock the cerebral/analytical aspect. > > I only blend for personal use and for my friends, (so maybe my > opinion doesn't count for much here,) but I allow it to lead me. I > sample it, and ask myself what's next. I try to base it on > observation and intuition. What does it " want " today? In a few > hours the answer comes. It evolves, and it's exciting to see what it > turns into. Sometimes it becomes something memorable, at least to > me. I don't try to duplicate a blend either, I just allow each one > to be unique. Maybe someday I'll start naming and duplicating > blends, but for now I like it this way, knowing that what I am > wearing or giving to a friend is not a standardized blend. > Yes, while that is true about intuition. It is equally important to first have a good working undrerstanding of the materials. So there is a time for sturcture and learning the basics, and a time for moving into ones own. Every aspect of the process is important. Intuition, or feeling, only comes after years of working with the materials, and even then a stinker can escape the radar if one is not diligent. Best, Z Zz's Petals Parfume Moderne http://www.zzspetals.com Quote
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Posted September 5, 2006 At 06:31 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: >, is the ginger you're using the fiery, fresh smelling EO, or the one >made from teh peeled, dried root? I adore the fresh!) >Any > Hi and Anya > That makes me smile. I have Irish friends here around Hay- on- Wye and > they come from Belfast and their names are Ione and Grainne (pronounced > onya and gronya) Jamaicans switch the a for an o in words, so my friend Pattie and I were Onya and Pottie. TMI, I know! > I made a simple blend using Vanilla Tuberose and Ginger which was warm > and delicious. Sleepy time blend! Anya http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway Quote
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Posted September 5, 2006 At 09:19 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: >It's all kind of a whirl and I let the thoughts and ingredients ebb >and flow. I can't imagine being rigid about it, but there are times >when it is better to stick to what I thought I should do and wrote >down, rather than take off and do what I please and come up with >something I don't like much. I fing the whole thing is facinating, the >way you have to set limits and the way you let it flow and evolve. Hi Fabienne: I'm rigid in my technique, and then I let the imagination fly, calling up scent memory. I regard my self-taught system, patterened on Carles, as a good grounding. Repetition, tedium actually, a.b.c.d.e.f.g, etc., and then compare it to s.t.u.v.w.x.y.z For years! Then I can let fly, knowing how they all interact. Also, the careful recordkeeping that is very hard for me, is crucial. I write down the formula, the numbers, the percents, always trying to balance the strength and longevity matrices. Of course, when I made Pan I threw it all out the window, due to the dictates of the materials, and lack of topnotes, and look what happened there -- runaway success, lol. Anya http://anyasgarden.com/perfumes.htm Parfums Natural http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://.com The Premier Natural Perfume Site Gateway Quote
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Posted September 6, 2006 Hi Beth, >This part is going to sound really goofy but I'm a color therapist so I can't >help it -- somewhere along the way I get a sense of what " colors " the spray >should contain. Not the physical color but the vibrational color. That tells me >what energy work to do on the finished blend and what color therapy products to >include. Then I get ideas about the essential oils. Some will make sense to me >consciously, others won't but invariably when I sit to down research later what >I used, the properties of the oils match the need. This is really neat! >A friend who works for the >marketing department of a major corporation asked me to make a spray with >certain characters for them to use to inspire their salespeople. Sounds great. Good luck with this project! Love, Saskia Quote
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