Balancing Act-Sharon, a build up to what, molds or mycotoxins?

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question Sharon, some allergest do give mold drops, made from mold

that you put under the tounge that are supposed to build up your

ammunity to mold. dont know if they work or not.I also think that

modls and mycotoxins are seperate issues completely, even though

mycotoxins are produced by some molds, dealing with " allergies " to

molds and dealing with mycotoxins from certain molds are 2 different

things. besides the length of exposure and amounts, and which toxin

produceinng molds you are exposed too, one thing to consider is what

other toxic particles may be attaching theriselfs to mold spores and

getting inhaled along with them. than, something else to consider is

that each persons body is different and I bet that two people exposed

to the same molds the same amount of time,in the same home, may have

different effects.we already know that a family in a moldy home

suffer different effects and it seems to be based on the time they

spend in the home, and surely each bodies makeup plays a role. just

like children and elderly can get more damage because theri organs

are not as strong. I wonder if blood type could also play a role in

it??

some could also be takeing it with them,if they leave the home and

take things with them,and dont clean these things well enough.(the

cross contamination thing) does have a point about being able to

get tottally away from it, meaning leaveing all things behind, and

getting in a mold free home or apartment, which may take a lot of

trail and error to find, but damage that is allready done may not all

get better after getting out.

some of my symptoms are getting better in the last year sence finding

a mold free apartment. the MCS and stomach problems(also caused by

MCS) is one gift that keeps on giving and seem to be getting worse.

even the fibromyalgia " like " symptoms, which from what I've been told

are toxins lodged in your glands, seem to be getting better after

getting in this apartment,(slowly) but I also can get flair ups of

this very painful ackeing, with a MCS attack that lasts about 3

days, a bad MCS attack actually makes me fell like Im back in the

moldy house again, but without the effects of the " allergy " (watery

eyes drippy nose, sore throat, effects to ears, or burning eyes,

nose, throat. also, just pushing on my glands on different parts of

my body can aggervate this " fibromyalgia like effect " .

trichathecene mycotoxins cause infections in your body,it did some

damage to mine that is permenant.time exposed to this mycotoxin can

cause serious damage and death. its been refered to as a silent

killer, because you usually dont see it or smell it.

sence your sinuses have to do with your glands, cronic sinusitis may

play a big part in how or if you recover after getting out, dont

know, just a guess.

aspergillus, aflatoxins can also cause death. low amounts of this in

my first home didnt seem to effect me a lot, but in the second home,

with very high amounts, it caused me to lose around 70-80 persent of

my lung compasity. slowly, but not tottally regained after getting

out by coughing up goobs of mucus filled with fungal balls. has it

caused invasive aspergillus? I dont know. but I do know that this

second home is where I developed MCS.

my guess would be that every body has a threshold, limit of what it

can take, before its immune system gets over powered, and depending

on what mycotoxins your exposed to,( because different mycotoxins

cause different effects), and how long your exposed, well deturmine

how well you recover. but I dont have much to compare to, meaning

that I dont have comparable resorces. want to share your exposure

history with us? Im thinking that Dr. Shoemaker has seen enough

patients that he might have a Idea. could it be that our genitics

play a part in how well we recover too?

I would like to know if, for example; trichathecene mycotoxins from

stachoboctrys has the same level of toxcidity in every case, or could

other toxic particles in the air also attach themselfs to condida

spores or mold spores or even mycotoxin particles and make it even

more toxic. mold toxins used for biochemicals of war are usually

mixed with other toxins, aren't they? and could it be that these mold

toxins found in sand and dirt, which seem to be very toxic(because

they cause death very quickly) are a result of pestisides and other

chemical particles attaching to these molds and mycotoxins? when you

think about it, mold needs moisture and when it gets growing good,

some types produce theri own moisture. wouldn't dry particles,

weather in the air or ground, get attached just because of the

moisture? than be inhaled, makeing what you inhale even more toxic.

are mold spores acting like a train ,picking up toxins on its way to

being inhaled? I have been reading about how some very toxic

particles are so tiny, the highest magnafacation is needed to see

them, like quantum dots, a very toxic particle which comes from

electronic parts as they get old and

decompose.

now, haveing said all of this, this is only my views based on my

experience. wouldn't it be nice to have real answers from medical

doctors, scientests, and certain goverment

angencys.

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, snk1955@... wrote:

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> I have a question for you all. Why do you think it is that some of

us are

> able to basically go about our business after being so sick, while

for others,

> only extreme avoidance allows them to be healthy?

>

> I have often wondered this question. I can go just about anywhere

I want.

> I don't have to plan my life around if there is mold there or not.

I very

> rarely take any kind of medicine. Do I sometimes not feel my

best, swell, sleep

> for a couple of days, get a rash? Yes. But those occurances are

becoming

> progressively more and more rare.

>

> So why is that? What is different about my situation than others

who

> continually and very easily become ill? Is there a possibility

that frequent minor

> re-exposures cause a built up tolerance?

>

> I really have no idea on this. Does anyone?

>

> Sharon

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