Re: *You're boss might be making you sick-UGH!

[Guest guest]

Let's continue to pick on our words...

Is it fair or truthful to say that mold itself is a poison or toxic??

Let's be precise.

Mold may create mycotoxins and those mycotoxins may be poisonous.

But the facts seem to be that not all mold growth produce toxins and

some mold capable of issuing mycotoxins will not do so unless

stimulated to do so.

Aspergillus can issue toxins but the mold can also spore and grow

inside a human host consuming the protein flesh as it developes.

Now back to the workplace. Is it not reasonable to expect

that " some " job related sickness is caused by stress and not mold??

Unfortunately the " some amount " may be very little but the medical

profession suspects that most complaints are job related and not

mold related.

The challenge is finding a way to work with the medical profession

in finding the proper remedy for our ilnesses.

Ken

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm not saying that this is the case with this one, as I don't

know,

> but it seems to me that the forces of 'fear uncertainty and doubt'

are

> increasingly desperate. But they are VERY well financed and they

> really know their job. Spread doubt.

>

> Yes, workplace stress is harmful. Maybe very harmful. But it isn't

a

> poison, literally. Mold is.

>

> Especially, TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.

>

[Guest guest]

" kengibs " wrote:

> Let's continue to pick on our words... Is it fair or truthful to

say that mold itself is a poison or toxic??

Let's be precise.<

" The discovery of Penicillin ushered in the modern era of antibiotics

and perhaps left the impression that with respect to secondary

metabolites, fungi (and certain bacteria such as the streptomycetes

and actinomycetes) were the " good guys " - resoundingly not so.

All clinically useful antibiotics are toxic at higher levels, and

from a chemical viewpoint, there is no fundamental biochemical

difference between a medicinally useful antibiotic (e.g) penicillin)

and the active principles found in poison mushrooms (e.g. the potent

neurotoxin, muscarine).

The fact that we find penicillin medically useful and that the unwary

die from eating muscarine-containing mushrooms is not a reflection of

any fundamental biochemical difference between these two fungal

secondary metabolites. "

-Bruce Jarvis PhD.

Proceedings of the International Conference.

Saratoga Springs, New York 1994

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:08:51 +0000, you wrote:

>Now back to the workplace. Is it not reasonable to expect

>that " some " job related sickness is caused by stress and not mold??

It is if you are wrong.

>The challenge is finding a way to work with the medical profession

>in finding the proper remedy for our ilnesses.

The threat of a class action suit.

[Guest guest]

>

> >Now back to the workplace. Is it not reasonable to expect

> >that " some " job related sickness is caused by stress and not mold??

>

> It is if you are wrong.

>

> >The challenge is finding a way to work with the medical profession

> >in finding the proper remedy for our ilnesses.

>

> The threat of a class action suit.

>

>

>

You may be right. Unfortunately, the only thing that " they "

understand is public embarrassment and negative publicity. It is

unfortunate, but look at what it takes to make things happen for

Katrina and Rita victims; it takes a public outcry exposing people

who are hurting others. That is why I beg you all to send me

testimony for the Sick Schools and other Public Buildings hearing at

the State House in Boston on Monday, April 10th.

Send your story to MLMJ75@....

Mulvey son