Re: Are you longing for fresh air?

[Guest guest]

Dear Mygla,

Welcome to the group. I am one of the " moldy oldies " that have been a

member for two years. We are here to help one another. As KC says and I know

VERY

personally, there are no SILVER BULLETS. But a lot of good advice here. IM

sorry you had to find us because you are sick as well. I am homebound with air

cleaners and have MCS (multiple chemical sensitivities) I cant handle a lot of

odors or smells. Ive been doing this for two years due to a moldy workplace. I

have since gone as they got rid of me by saying I was causing trouble. It was a

government building. They let me go at 39 years old.

Again, welcome and God Bless,

Janet

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing your story. We know it took alot to leave everything

behind, and loose your home. Many of us here have had to do that also. It

is a hard road back, but you will do it, but it is worth it when your family

gets better. I am glad you were smart enough to know about mold. Thank

goodness you found out. It is good to hear that you have gotten treatment

that has helped, I hope all goes good for you and your family.

[] Are you longing for fresh air?

> Hello all of you

> I am new here, and have been reading your posts the last few days.

> This is great - finally to find people like you - and share all the

> information here.

> My story is that I live in Iceland (Europe) :-)

> I got mold problem in my house - got it tested (chatemoium,

> aspergillus, mucor and more). Moved out - lost my home - lost ALL my

> belongings due to toxins and all the family lost their health. Since

> then (18 months) I have been seeking help here on the internet. Here

> in Iceland NO one knows about these things - eveybody thought I was a

> nutcase(well some of you know that feeling):-)

> I browsed the internet until I found a doctor that I thougt that could

> help me - Dr. Shoemaker. And -wow- he has saved my family. Me and the

> kids have the mold suspectible HLA DR - the worst type :-(

> And my MSH was one of the lowest he had seen ( 3 ).I sent blood

> samples to USA. But since then we have all been so much better - with

> CSM and for me -actos.

> We built a new (eco friendly) house here in Iceland that is as mold

> free and chemical free as possible - well hopefully. Well my building

> contractor got a very bad door for the entrance at the home (it seamed

> to have been leaking). I noticed it because suddenly I got sick in my

> new house. I have been using the time to study (I anm a biologist)and

> bought myself equipment for mold testing(bio pump and more) since no

> one offers that service here in Iceland (population 300.000). So i

> took a sample in my home - AND was I surpriced - the outdoor air here

> in Iceland has very few fungal spores - at least in this season. No

> wonder that I can never travel overseas without getting very very sick

> - or in otherwords like heavily exposed.

> I wanted to share this information with you all since I belive most of

> you are longing for fresh air - well unfortunatly few of us have the

> budget - due to loosing all our belongings and medical help -to

> travel. The outdoor air here in Iceland can almost everytime make my

> illness go away faster. The interesting thing is that at so low dosage

> (of spores) as in my entrance (room) I got very sick.

> Just to share my story - I am going to a neurologicspecialist today

> because my tingling and numbness hasnt gone away.

>

>

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> Outdoor Location: 10618031, Outside

> Fungi Identified Outdoor Typical Outdoor Data by Date? by Location

> data Month: March 15 2006

>

> spores/m3 outdoor low med high freq %

> Generally able to grow indoors* iceland

> Alternaria - 7 27 210 48 - - - -

> Bipolaris/Drechslera group - 7 13 130 12 - - - -

> Chaetomium - 7 13 160 9 - - - -

> Cladosporium 7 51 430 4,800 93 - - - -

> Curvularia - 7 13 260 6 - - - -

> Nigrospora - 7 13 93 6 - - - -

> Penicillium/Aspergillus types 13 27 160 1,800 86 - - - -

> Stachybotrys - 7 13 460 3 - - - -

> Torula - 7 13 210 9 - - - -

> Seldom found growing indoors**

> Ascospores - 13 160 2,300 78 - - - -

> Basidiospores 7 27 450 6,700 93 - - - -

> Rusts - 7 20 370 21 - - - -

> Smuts, Periconia, Myxomycetes - 7 27 330 56 - - - -

> TOTAL SPORES/M3 27

> I hope ypu can read this

> Thank you for all your effortness and help. Have you got any database

> here that you have got in one place - about what fits you best and

> what chemicals to avoid? I would be really interested in adding my

> info and getting to know more - because like you have said - the same

> doesnt suit all but it can help to get to know what other peoples

> needs are to stay as healthy as possible.

> Sorry if my english isnt good -

> Keep up the good work

> Greetings from Iceland

> mygla

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[Guest guest]

" mygla33 " wrote:

> Hello all of you

I am new here, and have been reading your posts the last few days.

This is great - finally to find people like you - and share all the

information here.

My story is that I live in Iceland (Europe) :-) I got mold problem

in my house - got it tested (chatemoium, aspergillus, mucor and

more). Moved out - lost my home - lost ALL my belongings due to

toxins and all the family lost their health. -Mygla

Mygla, are you familiar with the Icelandic outbreak of ME/CFS?:

" Akureyri Disease " ?

-

>Iceland: In early winter in 1948 to 1949, an extensive epidemic

broke out in the town of Akureyri in Iceland. Women were affected

more than men, although the sex ratio was equal less than 20 years

of age. The illness spread rapidly but was confined to the town. It

did not appear to be spread by water, milk, food or sewerage but

instead by close contact with those affected. In 1955, 39 patients

of the 1948 epidemic were re-examined. Of those more severely

affected, only 25% had completely recovered, 52% had residual muscle

tenderness and 65% had objective neurological signs. Of those only

mildly affected in 1948, only 44% had recovered fully with 50%

having muscle tenderness and 19% having residual objective

neurological signs.<

[Guest guest]

welcome mygla, and thanks for your story. it appears you have the

same molds that are here in the US, all the ones you list were in my

homes, and a few more. glad you are doing better. I still deal with

the tingleing, numbness, and burning , but its not as constant as it

was, let us know what you find

out.

>

> Hello all of you

> I am new here, and have been reading your posts the last few days.

> This is great - finally to find people like you - and share all the

> information here.

> My story is that I live in Iceland (Europe) :-)

> I got mold problem in my house - got it tested (chatemoium,

> aspergillus, mucor and more). Moved out - lost my home - lost ALL my

> belongings due to toxins and all the family lost their health. Since

> then (18 months) I have been seeking help here on the internet. Here

> in Iceland NO one knows about these things - eveybody thought I was

a

> nutcase(well some of you know that feeling):-)

> I browsed the internet until I found a doctor that I thougt that

could

> help me - Dr. Shoemaker. And -wow- he has saved my family. Me and

the

> kids have the mold suspectible HLA DR - the worst type :-(

> And my MSH was one of the lowest he had seen ( 3 ).I sent blood

> samples to USA. But since then we have all been so much better -

with

> CSM and for me -actos.

> We built a new (eco friendly) house here in Iceland that is as mold

> free and chemical free as possible - well hopefully. Well my

building

> contractor got a very bad door for the entrance at the home (it

seamed

> to have been leaking). I noticed it because suddenly I got sick in

my

> new house. I have been using the time to study (I anm a biologist)

and

> bought myself equipment for mold testing(bio pump and more) since no

> one offers that service here in Iceland (population 300.000). So i

> took a sample in my home - AND was I surpriced - the outdoor air

here

> in Iceland has very few fungal spores - at least in this season. No

> wonder that I can never travel overseas without getting very very

sick

> - or in otherwords like heavily exposed.

> I wanted to share this information with you all since I belive most

of

> you are longing for fresh air - well unfortunatly few of us have the

> budget - due to loosing all our belongings and medical help -to

> travel. The outdoor air here in Iceland can almost everytime make my

> illness go away faster. The interesting thing is that at so low

dosage

> (of spores) as in my entrance (room) I got very sick.

> Just to share my story - I am going to a neurologicspecialist today

> because my tingling and numbness hasnt gone away.

>

>

>

> Outdoor Location: 10618031, Outside

> Fungi Identified Outdoor Typical Outdoor Data by Date† by Location

> data Month: March 15 2006

>

> spores/m3 outdoor low med high freq %

> Generally able to grow indoors* iceland

> Alternaria - 7 27 210 48 - - - -

> Bipolaris/Drechslera group - 7 13 130 12 - - - -

> Chaetomium - 7 13 160 9 - - - -

> Cladosporium 7 51 430 4,800 93 - - - -

> Curvularia - 7 13 260 6 - - - -

> Nigrospora - 7 13 93 6 - - - -

> Penicillium/Aspergillus types 13 27 160 1,800 86 - - - -

> Stachybotrys - 7 13 460 3 - - - -

> Torula - 7 13 210 9 - - - -

> Seldom found growing indoors**

> Ascospores - 13 160 2,300 78 - - - -

> Basidiospores 7 27 450 6,700 93 - - - -

> Rusts - 7 20 370 21 - - - -

> Smuts, Periconia, Myxomycetes - 7 27 330 56 - - - -

> TOTAL SPORES/M3 27

> I hope ypu can read this

> Thank you for all your effortness and help. Have you got any

database

> here that you have got in one place - about what fits you best and

> what chemicals to avoid? I would be really interested in adding my

> info and getting to know more - because like you have said - the

same

> doesnt suit all but it can help to get to know what other peoples

> needs are to stay as healthy as possible.

> Sorry if my english isnt good -

> Keep up the good work

> Greetings from Iceland

> mygla

>

[Guest guest]

No I didnt know about this - where did you find it? I am interested.

But I am sure (and I know many) people are living with molds in their

homes and workplaces - No one seems to link it with mold since the

outdoor air is so good.

Well the general public is beginnig to listen to me (I have been on

the radio twice)- since there are so many people sick without getting

help from medicine.

But inside our homes we have humidity and mold growing just like you

in USA. We have so warm and tight houses here in Iceland - and we

hardly ever have exhaust fans for kitchen or dryers.

And so many houses have water merging in the ceiling or walls. So we

make our homes tempting for molds to grow in.

I am exposed in many commercial buildings and homes here - and some

days I cant go shopping in specific stores.

But if someone would be interested to come for a visit - I will be

willing to assist. But maybe most of you are like me - I feel my best

at home where I can have things in place they way I need them to be.

Like no perfumes and cleaning products.

Greetings

Mygla

> > Hello all of you

> I am new here, and have been reading your posts the last few days.

> This is great - finally to find people like you - and share all the

> information here.

> My story is that I live in Iceland (Europe) :-) I got mold problem

> in my house - got it tested (chatemoium, aspergillus, mucor and

> more). Moved out - lost my home - lost ALL my belongings due to

> toxins and all the family lost their health. -Mygla

>

>

> Mygla, are you familiar with the Icelandic outbreak of ME/CFS?:

> " Akureyri Disease " ?

> -

>

> >Iceland: In early winter in 1948 to 1949, an extensive epidemic

> broke out in the town of Akureyri in Iceland. Women were affected

> more than men, although the sex ratio was equal less than 20 years

> of age. The illness spread rapidly but was confined to the town. It

> did not appear to be spread by water, milk, food or sewerage but

> instead by close contact with those affected. In 1955, 39 patients

> of the 1948 epidemic were re-examined. Of those more severely

> affected, only 25% had completely recovered, 52% had residual muscle

> tenderness and 65% had objective neurological signs. Of those only

> mildly affected in 1948, only 44% had recovered fully with 50%

> having muscle tenderness and 19% having residual objective

> neurological signs.<

>