Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 > > I think Will gleans his 'wish list' from here, at least that's what > he's > told me over the phone -- he's on the prowl for a new source of kewda, > since it's the main topnote in my new perfume, and I'd like to give > him the > business. I have enough for the launch, and Will's been looking > diligently > for a month or two now, so I have my fingers crossed. I can keep > with my > current supplier, but Will is much more responsive, I've found, in all > areas (except when he's in Mexico on secret aromatic missions and > without > an internet connection ;-) > > > Anya Hi Anya, Are you and others interested in Kedwa Attar or the essential oil (Ruh Kedwa)? I have a source for a lovely Kedwa Attar (btw), 2 of my Indian contacts write it as Kewra, but its the same thing. I have a source for the Ruh Kedwa but the aroma is so very fleeting that I do not know how useful it would be??? And it is very expensive! The Attar lasts longer as it is in a Sandalwood base which helps to hold it. I like the idea of the Ruh Kedwa better, but in practice I think the Kedwa Attar is the way to go. Will Eden Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 At 10:44 PM 5/1/2006, you wrote: >Hi Anya, > >Are you and others interested in Kedwa Attar or the essential oil >(Ruh Kedwa)? I have a source for a lovely Kedwa Attar (btw), 2 of my >Indian contacts write it as Kewra, but its the same thing. It's also called Keora, Will, and several other names, but we've hit the most common ones. >I have a source for the Ruh Kedwa but the aroma is so very fleeting >that I do not know how useful it would be??? And it is very expensive! Yes, quite expensive. That's what I'm using. It will actually evaporate so that you can see it if you leave the top off the bottle for several hours! There is also an absolute I'm using, more long-lasting. >The Attar lasts longer as it is in a Sandalwood base which helps to >hold it. I like the idea of the Ruh Kedwa better, but in practice I >think the Kedwa Attar is the way to go. I'm avoiding any sandalwood-based product in my perfumes, due to sustainability issues. It'll be years before we see what the real story is, so I'm taking the attitude that I don't have to use it. I have a huge stash of mitti attar that I will use, but that's it, won't buy anymore. Ditto primo sandalwood. Just my stash and for bespoke perfumes. Last year I went through hell on this group with some who were opposed to sandalwood, ambergris, and at one point - get this - whether or not natural perfumery should even exist because it depletes resources. Yet, they were using sandalwood and attars. Just silly, really. If they had seen your recent slip up on ambergris, they'd have had your head, guaranteed! Mine, too, for allowing discussion of it. Thank goodness they're all gone, but the bitter taste lingers on. I fear if they caught wind I was thinking of using an attar they'd attack me on a blog somewhere. Such is restraint of trade and artistry. I do miss not using sandalwood in any of my blends, but I know you'll understand. In the meantime I'm just being creative and pretending sandalwood never existed (yeah, right, I love the stuff!) Anya http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume / Biggest, most dynamic natural perfumery chat group on the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 > > Yes, quite expensive. That's what I'm using. It will actually > evaporate so > that you can see it if you leave the top off the bottle for several > hours! > There is also an absolute I'm using, more long-lasting. Hi Anya, I think I will look for the Kedwa absolute. I can't seem to get enthused about an essential oil that disappears to the ethers as fast as the Kedwa does, and is super expensive. I like that you mention that the Kedwa absolute is more long-lasting. I also understand your concern for sandalwood oil based attars. If they are used wisely in small amounts I do not see too much harm in using the attars. It is better than using the sw oil by itself and in large quantities. However, perhaps a better solution would be for the attars to be made in a different base than sandalwood. Perhaps cedarwood, frankincense or something like that... depending on the other essence that it will be distilled into. Will Eden Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 At 05:36 PM 5/2/2006, you wrote: > > > > Yes, quite expensive. That's what I'm using. It will actually > > evaporate so > > that you can see it if you leave the top off the bottle for several > > hours! > > There is also an absolute I'm using, more long-lasting. > >Hi Anya, > >I think I will look for the Kedwa absolute. I can't seem to get >enthused about an essential oil that disappears to the ethers as fast >as the Kedwa does, and is super expensive. I like that you mention >that the Kedwa absolute is more long-lasting. Hi will If you smelled it, you'd get enthused! It's glorious, and irreplaceable in certain instances. Obviously, I adore the stuff. My perfume references Pandanus Lake at the Garden, so that flower is necessary. Yes, the concrete (hard to get) and the absolute are much longer-lasting. In fact, their rosy character can last 24 hours in some instances, you have to know how to tease it out and glue it down ;-) >I also understand your concern for sandalwood oil based attars. If >they are used wisely in small amounts I do not see too much harm in >using the attars. It is better than using the sw oil by itself and in >large quantities. However, perhaps a better solution would be for the >attars to be made in a different base than sandalwood. Perhaps >cedarwood, frankincense or something like that... depending on the >other essence that it will be distilled into. I don't have time to post all that is sent me, so sorry for the half-baked questions. Tony Burfield and Chrissie Wildwood have great sites http://chrissiewildwood.com and http://cropwatch.org and Tony's newsletters are full of info, but hard to find on the website. I'm sure he sent me something in the past month or so that repeated the dire shortages/sustainability issues, but I can't find it now. If someone else can, please post it. Now Marcia, someone whom I respect for her breadth and depth of knowledge on such matters, has posted that perhaps the boycott on sw can be lifted (my words, not hers.) Anything you can report on these issues would be appreciated. Anya http://artisannaturalperfumers.com The Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume / Biggest, most dynamic natural perfumery chat group on the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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