Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 >Libby <libby@...> wrote: i'm on mac....like i said before, so please hurry with that version. >>I'm actually starting on it today. Once it is built, I'll need to go through a perios of beta testing, and then I''ll announce the release! Should be ready this Winter...I'll post a list of proposed new features in a month or so. I can vouch for myself and another friend off list - we want a MAC version - YAY! Will it be universal to accomodate the dual core MACs? JenB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Budai <jen@...> wrote: >>I'm actually starting on it today. Once it is built, I'll need to go through a perios of beta testing, and then I''ll announce the release! Should be ready this Winter...I'll post a list of proposed new features in a month or so. I can vouch for myself and another friend off list - we want a MAC version - YAY! Will it be universal to accomodate the dual core MACs? JenB So far, yes, it will be compatible with dual core macs, but we'll find out in beta testing. Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Hi, I have Apothecary Keeper and I love it.much the easiest way to maintain inventory and recipes. I have two wishes for the next version: 1. Make the names of " associations " in the inventory view " user defined. " We in perfumery have a lot of ways to categorize materials, but not the ones you have embedded. 2. Add a single calculation that would convert a formula to percentages, perhaps to two decimal places. So, if my formula is 110 grams of item A and 90 grams of item B, the calculation would show the new formula as 55.00 % item A and 45.00% item B. It would be ideal if it would recalculate the percentages each time an ingredient was added to the formula. Thanks for a nice piece of software and for working with us to fit it to our uses. Steve Earl Glen Custom Perfumery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Edited to correct top post......Please see recent topping & tailing post - thanks - Liz On Apr 8, 2006, at 11:21 PM, Budai wrote: >> Libby <libby@...> wrote: i'm on > mac....like i said before, so please hurry with that version. > Here's another request for the Mac version! Please, please, please? Thanks muchly! michelle@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 g-c-p <g-c-p@...> wrote: I have two wishes for the next version: 1. Make the names of " associations " in the inventory view " user defined. " We in perfumery have a lot of ways to categorize materials, but not the ones you have embedded. 2. Add a single calculation that would convert a formula to percentages, perhaps to two decimal places. So, if my formula is 110 grams of item A and 90 grams of item B, the calculation would show the new formula as 55.00 % item A and 45.00% item B. It would be ideal if it would recalculate the percentages each time an ingredient was added to the formula. Thanks for a nice piece of software and for working with us to fit it to our uses. Mornign Steve! In the Recipies window (V2 will rename this to Formulas) there are 5 user defined fields; I will add 5 user defined fields to the inventory view as well. If I can, I will see if I can add an unlimited amount via a portal, but I will have to expiriment with this a bit. Wither way, you will have what you wish for. On the percentages, I was considering adding this to the Formulas windo already; but I am balked at the moment by the conversion. If the user is only using a single measurement catagory (i.e. volume measurements or weight measurements) , this would be no problem. But if someone can tell me how percentage is deterined in formulas that have both weight measurements and volume measurements, I can easily make this happen; once I have the math it should be easy to impliment with some IF/THEN statements to determine measurement type. I've just begun reaserching this last week, so as long as I can find out how it's done, I can add this feature. In the meantime, I'm going to add the user defined fields to the inventory specs right now. Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 <michelle@...> wrote: Here's another request for the Mac version! Please, please, please?LOL! V2 will DEFINITLY be available on MAC. So to prevent a bunch of Mac request posts clogging up the list, let's do this: anyone who wants to be personally notified the day the Mac version becomes available, send me an email with the subject: " Please notify me of the MAC AK2 Release! " and in the body put your full name and email address, and if you want too, your mailling adderess. Mailing address optional, I doubt I'll notify by mail. I'm sure Anya will want me to announce it's release on this list, so you'll heare about it here first. However, if there is a concern, definitly get added to the release list. And anyone who want's to be personally notified about the PC Release ov V2, send me the same email, just change MAC to PC. Just a note though: V2 will be a MAJOR release, and will be a while; probably Winter. So, I'd reccomend getting the current version to get familiar with the basics, as V1 really is basic compared to what V2 will do. Upgrades to V2 will be 50% off, and members of this list will get an additional discount, I'll need to talk with Anya about that first. Therefore, if you are on a PC, don't wait for V2, V1 wil help you get ready for V2. Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 At 04:35 PM 4/9/2006, you wrote: >On the percentages, I was considering adding this to the Formulas windo >already; but I am balked at the moment by the conversion. If the user is >only using a single measurement catagory (i.e. volume measurements or >weight measurements) , this would be no problem. > >But if someone can tell me how percentage is deterined in formulas that >have both weight measurements and volume measurements, I can easily make >this happen; once I have the math it should be easy to impliment with some >IF/THEN statements to determine measurement type. I hope one of our mathmatically-gifted members will answer! Andy, is there a function in AK that helps us figure out the fluid v. weight of an essence by using the specific gravity? Specific gravity may be the key in what you're asking about. Anya http://.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume / Join to study natural perfumery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Anya <mccoy@...> wrote: At 04:35 PM 4/9/2006, you wrote: >But if someone can tell me how percentage is determined in formulas that >have both weight measurements and volume measurements, I can easily make >this happen; once I have the math it should be easy to implement with some >IF/THEN statements to determine measurement type. I hope one of our mathematically-gifted members will answer! Andy, is there a function in AK that helps us figure out the fluid v. weight of an essence by using the specific gravity? Specific gravity may be the key in what you're asking about. Currently there is not. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about this, so I need to be educated on it and how it works, and how measurements are taken (or where to get them from...LOL!) If I had example calculations, I could probably integrate this pretty easily, I just need to have someone who knows this well that I can bounce questions off of, and help me test. Any volunteers? I'm 1/4 of the way through defining fields in the source database, once I finish that I will begin working on base functionality and a basic GUI (Graphical User Interface), then adding in the " special " features, then the refined GUI. At some point I will be recruiting beta testers, and whoever it is that helps me figure out the percentages feature will definitely be asked to beta test. Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Silventar <silventar@...> wrote: Andy, is there a function in AK that helps us figure out the fluid v. weight of an essence by using the specific gravity? Specific gravity may be the key in what you're asking about. Currently there is not. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about this, so I need to be educated on it and how it works, and how measurements are taken (or where to get them from...LOL!) If I had example calculations, I could probably integrate this pretty easily, I just need to have someone who knows this well that I can bounce questions off of, and help me test. Any volunteers? I'm 1/4 of the way through defining fields in the source database, once I finish that I will begin working on base functionality and a basic GUI (Graphical User Interface), then adding in the " special " features, then the refined GUI. At some point I will be recruiting beta testers, and whoever it is that helps me figure out the percentages feature will definitely be asked to beta test. During the day, I work for a natural skin care company called Derma E (www.dermae.net) I asked my boss how we do it at our lab (different building) and I was told that everything is measured in weights; specifically in grams. This makes it easy to determine percentage. My connundrum is that one of Apothecary Keeper key features is unit conversion, so I need to keep this. What I have not been able to do to this point is convert volume measurements to weight measurements due to the inconsistancy in materials. So Anya's suggestion of specific gravity weight may be accurate; now I need to find out how to determine specific gravity. We're closer to makeing this a viable feature! Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Ok, so I came home for lunch and dis some research. Turns out specific gravity is pretty easy to determine. But even better, there are TONS of resources online as to what specific gravity things are. For example: Water has a specific gravity of 1. Orange essential oil has an approximate specific gravity of .89 Glycerin has an approximate specific gravity of 1.21 Sweet Almond oil has an approximate specific gravity of .92 So, this makes things easy. I'll include instructions on how to determine specific gravity, as well as a list of resources on where to find existing measurements online. Or I'll be really nice and collect these and host them on www.BlueMoonDesign.org So, The point is, in Apothecary Keeper 2.0, as long as you have the " Specific Gravity " field filled in the the inventory view, then the formula view will automatically tell you when percentage of each ingredient used, and adjust on the fly as you add, increase, subtract, or delete ingredients. Poof! Ask, and ye shall receive... Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 _____ I hope one of our mathematically-gifted members will answer! Andy, is there a function in AK that helps us figure out the fluid v. weight of an essence by using the specific gravity? Specific gravity may be the key in what you're asking about. Currently there is not. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about this, so I need to be educated on it and how it works, and how measurements are taken (or where to get them from...LOL!) If I had example calculations, I could probably integrate this pretty easily, I just need to have someone who knows this well that I can bounce questions off of, and help me test. Any volunteers? I'm 1/4 of the way through defining fields in the source database, once I finish that I will begin working on base functionality and a basic GUI (Graphical User Interface), then adding in the " special " features, then the refined GUI. At some point I will be recruiting beta testers, and whoever it is that helps me figure out the percentages feature will definitely be asked to beta test. Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org Specific gravity is a function of volume. Water is the standard, that is 1 kg = 1L = 1 dm³ at sea level at 4ºC(?) if I remember correctly. Here is a Link http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_water.htm with a table of changes. The volume, weight/volume changes with altitude and temperature by reason of gravity, air pressure and expansion. So every calculation will be approximate, we do not work well at 4ºC, so we need to calculate with the s.g. between 17ºC and 21 ºC. An other challenge is the weight and volume of a droplet. I think that some or a lot of us use dropper bottles or droppers to make our formulas. Each oil or absolute has its own drop volume, surface tension makes the drop larger or smaller, then there is adhesion and cohesion to consider. A good investment for all the our will be a good scale with a zero function. So if the s.g. is known we can weigh a number of drops to calculate the volume of the X drops and than the volume of one drop. Volume % differs from weight % Hoping being helpful. Have fun Strik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Strik <paul@...> wrote: Specific gravity is a function of volume. Water is the standard, that is 1 kg = 1L = 1 dm� at sea level at 4�C(?) if I remember correctly. Here is a Link http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_water.htm with a table of changes. Good afternoon ! So here is a question = to figure out the percentages as accurately as possible, the user needs to lookup or determine the specific gravity of their liquids and enter them into the appropriate field; do they need to do so for their weight based ingredients? Does Specific Gravety factor down to dry weight, i.e. a dry ounce? For example: Ingredient.............Qty..Measurement...SG.....Factored Wgt..Formula Percentage Water 1 Gallon 1.00 128.000 90.121% Orange Oil 4 Fluid Ounce 0.89 3.560 2.506% Glycerin 7 Fluid Ounce 1.21 8.470 5.963% Lavender Buds 2 Dry Ounce 2.000 1.408% ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Total Net Weight: 142.03 oz Total Percent: 100% (SG = Specific Gravity) Here is the logic: 1. IF SG= " " then Convert QTY to equivelant in " Dry Ounce " and enter into Factored Wgt 2. IF SG not= " " then Convert QTY to equivelant in " Fluid Ounce " and multiply by SG and enter result into Factored Wgt 3. Formula Percentage = (Factored Weight / Total Net Weight) * 100 Does this logic look accurate? This is pending that an approximate SG of 1 converts to 1 dry ounce; if so then I can quickly and easily convert this to a formula and incorporate it into AK2. Be Well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Silventar <silventar@...> wrote: Strik <paul@...> wrote: Specific gravity is a function of volume. Water is the standard, that is 1 kg = 1L = 1 dm� at sea level at 4�C(?) if I remember correctly. Here is a Link http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_water.htm with a table of changes. Good afternoon ! So here is a question = to figure out the percentages as accurately as possible, the user needs to lookup or determine the specific gravity of their liquids and enter them into the appropriate field; do they need to do so for their weight based ingredients? Does Specific Gravety factor down to dry weight, i.e. a dry ounce? For example: Ingredient.............Qty..Measurement...SG.....Factored Wgt..Formula Percentage Water 1 Gallon 1.00 128.000 90.121% Orange Oil 4 Fluid Ounce 0.89 3.560 2.506% Glycerin 7 Fluid Ounce 1.21 8.470 5.963% Lavender Buds 2 Dry Ounce 2.000 1.408% ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Total Net Weight: 142.03 oz Total Percent: 100% (SG = Specific Gravity) Here is the logic: 1. IF SG= " " then Convert QTY to equivelant in " Dry Ounce " and enter into Factored Wgt 2. IF SG not= " " then Convert QTY to equivelant in " Fluid Ounce " and multiply by SG and enter result into Factored Wgt 3. Formula Percentage = (Factored Weight / Total Net Weight) * 100 Does this logic look accurate? This is pending that an approximate SG of 1 converts to 1 dry ounce; if so then I can quickly and easily convert this to a formula and incorporate it into AK2. Uk, I made a dunderheaded error in the example above; I have 128 ounces in a pound when I should have had 16 ounces to a pound. The logic statements still hold true though. Sorry if I confused anyone...hehe! Be well, Andy on www.BlueMoonDesign.org --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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