RE: Any Natural Preservative Methods for Creams?

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Edited to correct top post - come on guy's - No More Top Posting Please!!! Liz

the_skin_clinic <the_skin_clinic@...> wrote:

Hey Kids!

Hoping to get some tried & true natural preserving methods for my

lovely creams? I've had a little success with grapeseed extract, but

would love some other options. Can't wait to hear back!

Hope this finds you well.

Kind Regards,

a

Hi a,

I read that Vitamin E oil is a natural Preserver as well as Jojoba, I am

still budding in this industry but i use them both in my oils and lotions. I

hope this helps.

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Finding a truly effective natural preservative is the " holy grail " of

lotion/cream making! The ones mentioned, Vitamin E and Grapefruit Seed Extract,

are antioxidants, NOT preservatives. They will do nothing to fend off bacterial

growth; they help to keep your product from getting stale/rancid. If you check

with an extremely knowledgeable supplier, such as Jen at www.lotioncrafter.com,

you can find a number of choices for your preservative (yes, chemicals, but

y'know, if I have a choice of either a bit of chemicals or a lot of bacteria in

my product, I'll go for a bit of chemicals! ;o) ... ), and Jen can answer your

questions as to which preservative is the best choice for the particular product

you have in mind.

Hope this helps!

Sue

SOAP!! www.littlemamaproducts.com

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At 04:51 PM 3/4/2006, you wrote:

>Finding a truly effective natural preservative is the " holy grail " of

>lotion/cream making! The ones mentioned, Vitamin E and Grapefruit Seed

>Extract, are antioxidants, NOT preservatives. They will do nothing to

>fend off bacterial growth; they help to keep your product from getting

>stale/rancid. If you check with an extremely knowledgeable supplier,

>such as Jen at www.lotioncrafter.com, you can find a number of

>choices for your preservative (yes, chemicals, but y'know, if I have a

>choice of either a bit of chemicals or a lot of bacteria in my product,

>I'll go for a bit of chemicals! ;o) ... ), and Jen can answer your

>questions as to which preservative is the best choice for the particular

>product you have in mind.

Sue's advice is very good. We all try (well most of us ;-) to eliminate as

many of chemicals we perceive to be harmful from our lives, but in some

instances there is a tradeoff.

I'd like to direct members to Chrissie Wildwood's site on this matter. She

is producing a line of skin care items for those with sensitive skin.

Chrissie is very much against chemical preservatives, so she puts her

products in airless pump dispensers. The good part is, besides getting

around the need for preservatives, she explains everything as to the " whys "

and " hows " of her method. It's like a little primer on this subject:

http://www.cwbotanicals.com/BOTANICAL-SKINCARE-AND-AROMATIC-WATERS

It's a lot of material, and some relevant stuff is half way down the page,

so be sure to check it all out.

Anya

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--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> Sue's advice is very good. We all try (well most of

> us ;-) to eliminate as

> many of chemicals we perceive to be harmful from our

> lives, but in some

> instances there is a tradeoff.

>

> I'd like to direct members to Chrissie Wildwood's

> site on this matter. She

> is producing a line of skin care items for those

> with sensitive skin.

> Chrissie is very much against chemical

> preservatives, so she puts her

> products in airless pump dispensers. The good part

> is, besides getting

> around the need for preservatives, she explains

> everything as to the " whys "

> and " hows " of her method. It's like a little primer

> on this subject:

>

http://www.cwbotanicals.com/BOTANICAL-SKINCARE-AND-AROMATIC-WATERS

>

> It's a lot of material, and some relevant stuff is

> half way down the page,

> so be sure to check it all out.

Just to throw in my two cents here. Unless the actual

ingredients, raw materials, are processed under very

steril conditions and never come into human contact,

putting products into an airless dispenser will not

eliminate the need for a preservative. There are

several reports there concerning the preserving

properties of GSE stating that it is the actual

preservatives added to the GSE, in minute amounts,

that give the product the preservative effect.

There is a " natural " system preservative that when

used you do not even have to say it is a preservative

because it is isn't and it is called Biovert. I have

used it in products I have made and had those products

tested at labs in the states and they passed with

flying colors. They actually did better than the

products that I made with germall plus. It is a sugar

and enzyme system. The only draw back is that the

system is very expensive and it has not yet garnered

international acceptance. But it is a very great

product. There are preservatives out there that do not

use parabens or formaldehyde donors. But still a

synthetic none the less.

Yoki

selahs_soaps@...

(tel) 340-277- 4146

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Anya <mccoy@...> wrote: At 04:51 PM 3/4/2006, you wrote:

Sue's advice is very good. We all try (well most of us ;-) to eliminate as

many of chemicals we perceive to be harmful from our lives, but in some

instances there is a tradeoff.

I'd like to direct members to Chrissie Wildwood's site on this matter. She

is producing a line of skin care items for those with sensitive skin.

Chrissie is very much against chemical preservatives, so she puts her

products in airless pump dispensers. The good part is, besides getting

around the need for preservatives, she explains everything as to the " whys "

and " hows " of her method. It's like a little primer on this subject:

http://www.cwbotanicals.com/BOTANICAL-SKINCARE-AND-AROMATIC-WATERS

It's a lot of material, and some relevant stuff is half way down the page,

so be sure to check it all out.

Anya

Hi Anaya

I can also direct you to the site where i found out about natrual

Preservatives

http://www.fromnaturewithlove.com/library/preservatives.asp

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Re: Any Natural Preservative Methods for Creams?

There is a " natural " system preservative that when

used you do not even have to say it is a preservative

because it is isn't and it is called Biovert. I have

used it in products I have made and had those products

tested at labs in the states and they passed with

flying colors. They actually did better than the

products that I made with germall plus. It is a sugar

and enzyme system. The only draw back is that the

system is very expensive and it has not yet garnered

international acceptance. But it is a very great

product. There are preservatives out there that do not

use parabens or formaldehyde donors. But still a

synthetic none the less.

Yoki

Yoki, I am REALLY interested in the Biovert! Where did you find it? Where can

I learn more about it? How expensive is it? I've been using Germall Plus

(since at least it doesn't have parabens) but I would LOVE to learn more about

this!

Thanks!

Sue

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Hi Yoki,

Could you tell me where I can find more information about Biovert? Here

Biovert is only known as trade name for a product to add all the needed

trace elements to the water in your aquarium.

Thanks in advance,

Kindest regards,

Brigitta

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--- Brigitta van Mil <bencvm@...> wrote:

> Hi Yoki,

>

> Could you tell me where I can find more information

> about Biovert? Here

> Biovert is only known as trade name for a product to

> add all the needed

> trace elements to the water in your aquarium.

>

> Thanks in advance,

> Kindest regards,

> Brigitta

Hi Brigitta,

Here is the link to the website:

http://www.archchemicals.com/Fed/PC/Products/FunctionalIngredients/BiovertEnzyme\

Substrate.htm

As you go through the hyperlinks, you will get to some

pdf's that will give you a more indepth explanation of

what it does and how it functions. In my opinion, it

is a wonderful product. Right now it is a bit much for

me, but I plan to return to it one day. If I am not

mistaken, they will send you a sample of the system if

you request some. Right now I am using Optiphen Plus.

That is also paraben free and formaldehyde free. As a

matter of fact, the Biovert is one that Burt's Bees

uses in their products.

Yoki

selahs_soaps@...

(tel) 340-277- 4146

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Hi Yoki,

Thank you very much for leading me to this very interesting information

about Biovert. I wonder if it is available here in the Netherlands, I'll

start asking around for it.

Kindest regards,

Brigitta

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Hi Yoki,

Do you know what is the emollient base that is used in Optiphen plus? This

is what I found about Optiphen plus:

Optiphen® Plus is an ISP patent-pending liquid preservative formulation

featuring an innovative blend of phenoxyethanol, sorbic acid and an

emollient base that is ideal for slightly acidic personal care products

requiring broad spectrum protection. The combination of all three

ingredients offers effective protection against bacteria, yeast and mold

growth while imparting emolliency. Optiphen® Plus performs best in

formulations below 6.0 pH. Depending on the formulation, Optiphen® Plus has

also been proven effective at pH levels above 6.0.

This preservative is effective as a stand-alone system and functions well

with other preservatives. Optiphen® Plus has an extensive range of

applications in aqueous and emulsion-type personal care formulations and is

compatible with most raw materials in the personal care industry.

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On my search for an alternative preservative for my natural cosmetics I

found " Preservative K " from Aromantic (UK). Does anyone of you have any

experience with Preservative K and the products of Aromantic? Preservative K

is a mixture of benzylalcohol, phenoxyethanol and potassium sorbate.

Kindest regards,

Brigitta