Re: A - Anxious stomach, and direction of the case

[Guest guest]

Dear Neetu,

Please clarify. For instance, when you note the date, followed by the

Unda Numbers, and then comments on client, are these comments the impetus

for giving those specific numbers -- that is, what the client said when he

came in that day, or are the comments the response you got when he returned

after having been on that set?

At 03:56 PM 8/20/2004 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi everyone...thanks to Leni and for the Vitiligo suggestions! those

>were very helpful.

>

>I have another case, i'm not sure why i am having troubles with this case,

>so i would appreciate any feedback. I think there's something i'm not

>seeing, and i don't think i have a very good grasp of the case.

>

>31 yo caucasian male (English, ish, French)

>

>25/02/04

>cc: stomach issues intermittent for 10 years, began in college

>father is a M.D. and so he has had a host of diagnostic tests(hyperthyroid,

>crohn's ulcers etc), all with

>negative findings. The problem has become worse in last two years, and has

>most recently been

>prescribed Losec for stomach issues, which had made a huge difference, best

>he's felt in 10 years, no general difuse pain, no nausea for 3 weeks)

>Stomach - When the issues began in college, it would lead to vomiting as the

>end

>result. Stomach pains, oppressed chest, heart palpitations and anxiety

>prior to exams. Anxiety only since college

>Says he has been tired most of his life; very difficult to wake up in the

>morning, groggy unrefreshed; highest energy at night. Nausea with lack of

>sleep; tendency to easily lose weight. He is extremely intelligent, and had

>adopted a philisophical view of the world to deflext any anxiety's. He

>speaks very mellow and very relaxed and layed back, but I get that sense

>that he makes a conscious effort to do this. Craves carbonated beverages

>

>Head - In high school during one exam period, had one week of straight

>migraines, had never experience pain such as this

>Mouth - occ apthous ulcers. Hands tremor.

>M/E - two episodes of depression in life, once post university, second post

>masters. Dealing with direction in life. Prior to our sessions had

>episodes of being a " zombie " will shut out world, thoughts will race, not

>repating thoughts and eat junk food and watch t.v. all night. Sad,

>difficult to communicate

>

>Also Basic treatment guidlines, which he does not follow religiously

>

>Feb 25/04 - Unda 1, 20, 243 - noticed the most improvement, abdominal pain

>became for localized, rather than general. Below rib cage, along the

>mid-clavicular line. Around spleen 15 i believe. Tender at kidney's

>

>March 24/04 - Unda 2, 20, 243; TAD - localized pain resolved, waking with

>stomach aches, feels better with treatments, but has felt the best with

>losec. No change in engergy, conscious effort to keep mood even; tired with

>8 hrs sleep

>

>April 20/04 - Unda 9, 24, 228; TAD - wakes with sore stomach; even mood;

>slight energy increase; sleeps good, no appetite cravings of junk food

>

>May 27/04 - Unda 4, 43, 46, 24; began bowen treatments - two nights of

>severe diarrhea after beginning of bowen

>Continued bowen for three sessions

>

>July 6/04 - Unda 1, 13, 226, bowen, gluten free diet for three weeks - now

>few days of no sickness/no muscle soreness, no gastric symptoms, increased

>conentration, no exhaustion, bile taste in mouth and sighing alot

>

>August6/04 - no change with gluten free, lost weight, felt better the day he

>introduced bread; still nausea in morning; addictive personality. Has

>weened himself off Losec, since beginning of our sessions

>

>I'm not sure where to take this treatment. I felt that it was adrenal

>fatigue, " possibley " causing a hyperthyroid state

>(nausea/anxiet/palpitations); nervous system - high, non-reactive stress

>(stress affects stomach); Possible systemic viral/bacterial latent

>infection. Liver, gall bladder congestion; decreased BBT ranges from 95.3 -

>97.5. However, the best improvement was after the first round of unda's, i

>still feel that there are liver issues, hepatocellular liver disease, and

>have prescribed liver unda's, but he still feels " crappy " most of the time.

>I'm not sure of his miasm either.

>

>Labs - hb 166 (133-165); ALT 16 (20-65)

>gamma GT, low normal 19 (10-58); Amylase low normal 34 (30-110); random

>glucose 4.0

>

>I'm not really sure what to do with this case. I don't think i have a good

>grasp of the case. And his mind controlling, and rationalizing everything,

>also makes the intake difficult. For example, how is your mood/sleep

>etc...could be a very long winded answer, with lots of rationalization.

>

>

>

>Any help would be appreciated!! thanks in advance

>

>Neetu Dhiman, Vancouver, BC

>Sage Clinc

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Neetu,

Of course my bias is to always wonder why a person with such chronic problems is not motivated to follow the BTG's. You may need to explore this area.

Whenever there seems to be a "liver" issue, I always ask what the first 7 years were like, especially around age 4, the time of liver maturation (energetically).

And how was his health before age 20? Something led up to the fact that when he started college this problem "started". It could be ANY system that never was allowed to develop properly.

Remember to be patient. You are putting a huge responsibility on yourself to help him, yet the patient is not willing to do his part. Time he assume the responsibilty?

Dick Thom

Beaverton, OR

(chronic dz. cancer, A-I)

31 yo caucasian male (English, ish, French)

25/02/04

cc:  stomach issues intermittent for 10 years, began in college

father is a M.D. and so he has had a host of diagnostic tests(hyperthyroid,

crohn's ulcers etc), all with

negative findings.  The problem has become worse in last two years, and has

most recently been

prescribed Losec for stomach issues, which had made a huge difference, best

he's felt in 10 years, no general difuse pain, no nausea  for 3 weeks)

Stomach - When the issues began in college, it would lead to vomiting as the

end

result.  Stomach pains, oppressed chest, heart palpitations and anxiety

prior to exams. Anxiety only since college

Says he has been tired most of his life; very difficult to wake up in the

morning, groggy unrefreshed; highest energy at night.  Nausea with lack of

sleep; tendency to easily lose weight. He is extremely intelligent, and had

adopted a philisophical view of the world to deflext any anxiety's. He

speaks very mellow and very relaxed and layed back, but I get that sense

that he makes a conscious effort to do this. Craves carbonated beverages

Head - In high school during one exam period, had one week of straight

migraines, had never experience pain such as this

Mouth - occ apthous ulcers.  Hands tremor.

M/E - two episodes of depression in life, once post university, second post

masters.  Dealing with direction in life.  Prior to our sessions had

episodes of being a "zombie" will shut out world, thoughts will race, not

repating thoughts and eat junk food and watch t.v. all night.  Sad,

difficult to communicate

Also Basic treatment guidlines, which he does not follow religiously

Feb 25/04 - Unda 1, 20, 243 - noticed the most improvement, abdominal pain

became for localized, rather than general. Below rib cage, along the

mid-clavicular line.  Around spleen 15 i believe.  Tender at kidney's

March 24/04 - Unda 2, 20, 243; TAD - localized pain resolved, waking with

stomach aches, feels better with treatments, but has felt the best with

losec.  No change in engergy, conscious effort to keep mood even; tired with

8 hrs sleep

April 20/04 - Unda 9, 24, 228; TAD - wakes with sore stomach; even mood;

slight energy increase; sleeps good, no appetite cravings of junk food

May 27/04 - Unda 4, 43, 46, 24; began bowen treatments - two nights of

severe diarrhea after beginning of bowen

Continued bowen for three sessions

July 6/04 - Unda 1, 13, 226, bowen, gluten free diet for three weeks - now

few days of no sickness/no muscle soreness, no gastric symptoms, increased

conentration, no exhaustion, bile taste in mouth and sighing alot

August6/04 - no change with gluten free, lost weight, felt better the day he

introduced bread; still nausea in morning; addictive personality.  Has

weened himself off Losec, since beginning of our sessions

I'm not sure where to take this treatment.  I felt that it was adrenal

fatigue, "possibley" causing a hyperthyroid state

(nausea/anxiet/palpitations); nervous system - high, non-reactive stress

(stress affects stomach); Possible systemic viral/bacterial latent

infection.  Liver, gall bladder congestion; decreased BBT ranges from 95.3 -

97.5.   However, the best improvement was after the first round of unda's, i

still feel that there are liver issues, hepatocellular liver disease, and

have prescribed liver unda's, but he still feels "crappy" most of the time.

I'm not sure of his miasm either.

Labs - hb 166 (133-165); ALT 16 (20-65)

gamma GT, low normal 19 (10-58); Amylase low normal 34 (30-110);  random

glucose 4.0

I'm not really sure what to do with this case. I don't think i have a good

grasp of the case. And his mind controlling, and rationalizing everything,

also makes the intake difficult.  For example, how is your mood/sleep

etc...could be a very long winded answer, with lots of rationalization.

Any help would be appreciated!!  thanks in advance

Neetu Dhiman, Vancouver, BC

Sage Clinc

[Guest guest]

Hi Neetu-

Reading the case also makes me think about the heart and the cardiovascular system seeing as the age of 1st yr in college corresponds to the energetic maturation of the cardiovascular system. That system seem to be speaking up in the oppressed chest, palpitations and migraine headaches, as well as the intermittent depression. Focusing some treatment (whether numbers or a gemmo or flower essence) might also be a nice way to get some movement. Thanks for sharing.

Allie Tanzer ND (Seaside OR) ( anyone who walks in the door)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Leni,

Sorry for the confusion...yes, the comments were in response to after he

came in on that set of Unda's, so one month later.

The patient claims he has had not major trauma in his life. His parents

divorced when he was 12.

Re: A - Anxious stomach, and direction of the case

> Dear Neetu,

>

> Please clarify. For instance, when you note the date, followed by the

> Unda Numbers, and then comments on client, are these comments the impetus

> for giving those specific numbers -- that is, what the client said when he

> came in that day, or are the comments the response you got when he

returned

> after having been on that set?

>

> At 03:56 PM 8/20/2004 -0700, you wrote:

> >Hi everyone...thanks to Leni and for the Vitiligo suggestions!

those

> >were very helpful.

> >

> >I have another case, i'm not sure why i am having troubles with this

case,

> >so i would appreciate any feedback. I think there's something i'm not

> >seeing, and i don't think i have a very good grasp of the case.

> >

> >31 yo caucasian male (English, ish, French)

> >

> >25/02/04

> >cc: stomach issues intermittent for 10 years, began in college

> >father is a M.D. and so he has had a host of diagnostic

tests(hyperthyroid,

> >crohn's ulcers etc), all with

> >negative findings. The problem has become worse in last two years, and

has

> >most recently been

> >prescribed Losec for stomach issues, which had made a huge difference,

best

> >he's felt in 10 years, no general difuse pain, no nausea for 3 weeks)

> >Stomach - When the issues began in college, it would lead to vomiting as

the

> >end

> >result. Stomach pains, oppressed chest, heart palpitations and anxiety

> >prior to exams. Anxiety only since college

> >Says he has been tired most of his life; very difficult to wake up in the

> >morning, groggy unrefreshed; highest energy at night. Nausea with lack

of

> >sleep; tendency to easily lose weight. He is extremely intelligent, and

had

> >adopted a philisophical view of the world to deflext any anxiety's. He

> >speaks very mellow and very relaxed and layed back, but I get that sense

> >that he makes a conscious effort to do this. Craves carbonated beverages

> >

> >Head - In high school during one exam period, had one week of straight

> >migraines, had never experience pain such as this

> >Mouth - occ apthous ulcers. Hands tremor.

> >M/E - two episodes of depression in life, once post university, second

post

> >masters. Dealing with direction in life. Prior to our sessions had

> >episodes of being a " zombie " will shut out world, thoughts will race, not

> >repating thoughts and eat junk food and watch t.v. all night. Sad,

> >difficult to communicate

> >

> >Also Basic treatment guidlines, which he does not follow religiously

> >

> >Feb 25/04 - Unda 1, 20, 243 - noticed the most improvement, abdominal

pain

> >became for localized, rather than general. Below rib cage, along the

> >mid-clavicular line. Around spleen 15 i believe. Tender at kidney's

> >

> >March 24/04 - Unda 2, 20, 243; TAD - localized pain resolved, waking with

> >stomach aches, feels better with treatments, but has felt the best with

> >losec. No change in engergy, conscious effort to keep mood even; tired

with

> >8 hrs sleep

> >

> >April 20/04 - Unda 9, 24, 228; TAD - wakes with sore stomach; even mood;

> >slight energy increase; sleeps good, no appetite cravings of junk food

> >

> >May 27/04 - Unda 4, 43, 46, 24; began bowen treatments - two nights of

> >severe diarrhea after beginning of bowen

> >Continued bowen for three sessions

> >

> >July 6/04 - Unda 1, 13, 226, bowen, gluten free diet for three weeks -

now

> >few days of no sickness/no muscle soreness, no gastric symptoms,

increased

> >conentration, no exhaustion, bile taste in mouth and sighing alot

> >

> >August6/04 - no change with gluten free, lost weight, felt better the day

he

> >introduced bread; still nausea in morning; addictive personality. Has

> >weened himself off Losec, since beginning of our sessions

> >

> >I'm not sure where to take this treatment. I felt that it was adrenal

> >fatigue, " possibley " causing a hyperthyroid state

> >(nausea/anxiet/palpitations); nervous system - high, non-reactive stress

> >(stress affects stomach); Possible systemic viral/bacterial latent

> >infection. Liver, gall bladder congestion; decreased BBT ranges from

95.3 -

> >97.5. However, the best improvement was after the first round of

unda's, i

> >still feel that there are liver issues, hepatocellular liver disease, and

> >have prescribed liver unda's, but he still feels " crappy " most of the

time.

> >I'm not sure of his miasm either.

> >

> >Labs - hb 166 (133-165); ALT 16 (20-65)

> >gamma GT, low normal 19 (10-58); Amylase low normal 34 (30-110); random

> >glucose 4.0

> >

> >I'm not really sure what to do with this case. I don't think i have a

good

> >grasp of the case. And his mind controlling, and rationalizing

everything,

> >also makes the intake difficult. For example, how is your mood/sleep

> >etc...could be a very long winded answer, with lots of rationalization.

> >

> >

> >

> >Any help would be appreciated!! thanks in advance

> >

> >Neetu Dhiman, Vancouver, BC

> >Sage Clinc

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >