Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Having TB or exposure to TB, does not make you a TB miasm. the miasm is diagnosed from the features of which it is characteristic. If a person does indeed express them, then that needs to be treated to prevent it genetically being passed on to off-spring. (or sexual partner). This is no different than exposure to syphilis does not make one luetic. I would also question that someone is exposed to the actual disease and never expresses the disease. Most patients think they have a cold /flu on first exposure so they would never remember this. Most patients then find out they have been exposed via annual testing (like us) or they eventually develop "re-activation" TB, when the typical TB symptoms appear. Dick Thom Beaverton, OR I have a question regarding TB seroconversion and the TB miasm. I have been thinking about this issue for a while and would love some other ideas. I know quite a few people in the health care profession who've converted to a seropositive PPD test due to their work but never had any symptoms. In some cases, they don't even know exactly where or when they were exposed. I am wondering then, does this exposure cause them to shift to a TB miasm? If so, would we think about this any differently than for someone who had inherited the miasm or someone who had aquired it but had experienced overt illness or someone who had aquired it through lifestyle/suppression? With most diseases, there are two options- either you never get it, or you get it, experience the disease and then either recover or die. With TB, though, there is this third option, of exposure without experiencing the disease and just retaining the dormant TB. Because the TB continues to be present in the body, does it continue to exert a miasmatic influence, and therefore, the person would always be tuberculinic? Or would you consider the body walling it off and containing it as mounting a response (similar to how it handles varicella)? I would think that the body would have to mount a response to identify the TB and contain it before it became destructive, so that this would be the best response possible because there would be no possibility for suppression. But what then of the miasm piece? Thanks for letting me think out loud- Hindman Tigard, OR cancer, chronic disease, dying, anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Hello everyone, Regarding this concept I have fallen into the trap of seeing a TB + skin reaction in the past and then lumping them into the TB miasm when actually they reacted very poorly to the 14, 16 remedies. In hindsight they seemed much more sycotic in their reactive states which is really what to look for as Dick was mentioning. So someone with a TB fam hx or personal exposure could react within several miasmatic ways or even an overlap. Good question though and it certainly is interesting to ponder. Polinsky Vancouver, B.C. Family/Women's Health Q: TB Seroconversion > > Hi group- > > I have a question regarding TB seroconversion and the TB miasm. I > have been thinking about this issue for a while and would love some > other ideas. > > I know quite a few people in the health care profession who've > converted to a seropositive PPD test due to their work but never had > any symptoms. In some cases, they don't even know exactly where or > when they were exposed. I am wondering then, does this exposure cause > them to shift to a TB miasm? If so, would we think about this any > differently than for someone who had inherited the miasm or someone > who had aquired it but had experienced overt illness or someone who > had aquired it through lifestyle/suppression? > > With most diseases, there are two options- either you never get it, or > you get it, experience the disease and then either recover or die. > With TB, though, there is this third option, of exposure without > experiencing the disease and just retaining the dormant TB. Because > the TB continues to be present in the body, does it continue to exert > a miasmatic influence, and therefore, the person would always be > tuberculinic? Or would you consider the body walling it off and > containing it as mounting a response (similar to how it handles > varicella)? I would think that the body would have to mount a > response to identify the TB and contain it before it became > destructive, so that this would be the best response possible because > there would be no possibility for suppression. But what then of the > miasm piece? > > Thanks for letting me think out loud- > Hindman > Tigard, OR > cancer, chronic disease, dying, anyone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Kim, I think you are making the assumption that Hahnemann's view of miasm is set in stone. There have been a number of authors that suggest his ideas and concepts may not be correctly interpreted in this day and age. It is possible it is NOT an infectious process. Hahnemann was probably reacting to the current scientific knowledge of his time. This is not what we now know from the Human Genome project and the experience of many modern homeopaths. So I would not assume the disease will create the miasm for any of the disorders. It is more likely that psora is candida Vs scabies and sycosis maybe more likely chlamydia. These probably ARE suppressed but TB is often NOT TREATED so it is not suppressed in the same way as these conditions. Dick Thom Beaverton, OR cancer, AI Hi everyone again- Thank you for the input. Part of my question came from reading "A Comparitive Study of Chronic Miasms". Dr. Agrawal quotes Hahnemann as saying "psora, syphilis and sycosis are infectious diseases and are curable in primary stage but when they are suppressed by maltreatment, they are changed into chronic miasms and become the root cause of innumerable diseases." I extrapolated this to TB and then wondered if someone was exposed to the infection by never had symptoms (to either be treated or suppressed), what would happen miasmatically? Hindman Tigard, OR cancer, chronic disease, dying, anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Hi everyone again- Thank you for the input. Part of my question came from reading " A Comparitive Study of Chronic Miasms " . Dr. Agrawal quotes Hahnemann as saying " psora, syphilis and sycosis are infectious diseases and are curable in primary stage but when they are suppressed by maltreatment, they are changed into chronic miasms and become the root cause of innumerable diseases. " I extrapolated this to TB and then wondered if someone was exposed to the infection by never had symptoms (to either be treated or suppressed), what would happen miasmatically? Hindman Tigard, OR cancer, chronic disease, dying, anyone On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:28:11 -0800, Dr. Polinsky <drpolinsky@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Regarding this concept I have fallen into the trap of seeing a TB + skin > reaction in the past and then lumping them into the TB miasm when actually > they reacted very poorly to the 14, 16 remedies. In hindsight they seemed > much more sycotic in their reactive states which is really what to look for > as Dick was mentioning. So someone with a TB fam hx or personal exposure > could react within several miasmatic ways or even an overlap. Good question > though and it certainly is interesting to ponder. > > Polinsky > Vancouver, B.C. > Family/Women's Health > > > > Q: TB Seroconversion > > > > > Hi group- > > > > I have a question regarding TB seroconversion and the TB miasm. I > > have been thinking about this issue for a while and would love some > > other ideas. > > > > I know quite a few people in the health care profession who've > > converted to a seropositive PPD test due to their work but never had > > any symptoms. In some cases, they don't even know exactly where or > > when they were exposed. I am wondering then, does this exposure cause > > them to shift to a TB miasm? If so, would we think about this any > > differently than for someone who had inherited the miasm or someone > > who had aquired it but had experienced overt illness or someone who > > had aquired it through lifestyle/suppression? > > > > With most diseases, there are two options- either you never get it, or > > you get it, experience the disease and then either recover or die. > > With TB, though, there is this third option, of exposure without > > experiencing the disease and just retaining the dormant TB. Because > > the TB continues to be present in the body, does it continue to exert > > a miasmatic influence, and therefore, the person would always be > > tuberculinic? Or would you consider the body walling it off and > > containing it as mounting a response (similar to how it handles > > varicella)? I would think that the body would have to mount a > > response to identify the TB and contain it before it became > > destructive, so that this would be the best response possible because > > there would be no possibility for suppression. But what then of the > > miasm piece? > > > > Thanks for letting me think out loud- > > Hindman > > Tigard, OR > > cancer, chronic disease, dying, anyone > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Hi Kim and Everyone - I have a couple of thoughts about miasms. I have been thinking that how a person reacts to a disease, toxin or stress is more important than the disease, toxin or stress itself. The miasm dictates the response a person has to a disease and the types of diseases they will attract to themselves. I would expect that someone with the tuberculinic miasm would express a rather typical, full-blown case of TB as opposed to other miasms that may not appear to respond to an exposure. I am interested to hear what others think. Hodsdon ND Portland, Oregon Evolving practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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