Re: cecompression sickness

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami,

I have never dealt with this and we may need some input from some "biochemistry whiz".

But why not "assume" the nitrogen is something the body needs to get rid of - like drugs, anaesthetic, chemicals etc. and simply give her UNDA 2, 20, 243, 258

Dick Thom

Beaverton, OR

Hi group,

Anyone have thoughts or experience with DCS Type I?   I received a voice

mail from a friend on the east coast.  She completed a "sucessful" dive

approx 6 weeks ago.  Then drove home (elevation 1500 ').  Despite the

fact she had taken time in the decompression chamber during her ascent

it seems the increased elevation on her drive home caused problems.  She

felt light headed, headachy and achy overall.  Next day she spoke with

dive experts and docs and was referred back to compression chamber.  She

spent several hours there.  The next day not much improvement and they

put her back in for another 8 hours.  At this point she continues to

have lingering symptoms attributed to DCS.  Symptoms are primarily

"achy, weak, crampy, nervy" feeling in limbs and joints.

From what I know DCS is from trapped Nitrogen bubbles.  The nitrogen

itself is not thought to be a problem but the pressure of the bubbles on

the nerves and organs can cause damage.  The medical system has said

there is nothing else they can do for her and she'll just have to wait

and see what happens.

I have not yet spoken with her in person, but will probably speak with

her this weekend and offer recommendations.

Thoughts or ideas or wondrous UNDA group?

--

Dr. Tamara Staudt

National College of Naturopathic Medicine

Dean of Clinics

503-552-2093

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami

Never dealt with this and don't have a clue, but I've never let that

stop me from making a fool of myself in the past. You know, from an

anthroposinese perspective, Nitrogen (green) expresses wood/air energy,

and in the Ke cycle should then be controlled by earth/metal energy

such as in carbon (yellow). So it would be interesting to me to see

what yellow light would do here (including sunlight and vitamin D) as

well as the intake of carbon in some form. Have her stand in the sun

and breathe into a paper bag? Can we also consider it an excess wind

condition? I just treated a patient for rash and am using a shao yao

gan cao tang formula modified with chan tui (cicada) and some other

wind breakers (excuse me). Maybe if i actually did some research i

could give you something of more value here, but then I'd have to take

more time than I have. Hope thinking aloud with you is of some help.

And so why don't you call me?...My son, the big shot doctor, and he

never writes or calls...

Portland, OR

On Dec 15, 2004, at 8:33 PM, Drdwthom@... wrote:

> Hi Tami,

>      I have never dealt with this and we may need some input from

> some " biochemistry whiz " .

>

>      But why not " assume " the nitrogen is something the body needs to

> get rid of - like drugs, anaesthetic, chemicals etc. and simply give

> her          UNDA      2, 20, 243, 258

>

> Dick Thom

> Beaverton, OR

>

>

> Hi group,

>

> Anyone have thoughts or experience with DCS Type I?   I received a

> voice

> mail from a friend on the east coast.  She completed a " sucessful "

> dive

> approx 6 weeks ago.  Then drove home (elevation 1500 ').  Despite the

> fact she had taken time in the decompression chamber during her ascent

> it seems the increased elevation on her drive home caused problems. 

> She

> felt light headed, headachy and achy overall.  Next day she spoke with

> dive experts and docs and was referred back to compression chamber. 

> She

> spent several hours there.  The next day not much improvement and they

> put her back in for another 8 hours.  At this point she continues to

> have lingering symptoms attributed to DCS.  Symptoms are primarily

> " achy, weak, crampy, nervy " feeling in limbs and joints.

>

> From what I know DCS is from trapped Nitrogen bubbles.  The nitrogen

> itself is not thought to be a problem but the pressure of the bubbles

> on

> the nerves and organs can cause damage.  The medical system has said

> there is nothing else they can do for her and she'll just have to wait

> and see what happens.

>

> I have not yet spoken with her in person, but will probably speak with

> her this weekend and offer recommendations.

>

> Thoughts or ideas or wondrous UNDA group?

>

> --

> Dr. Tamara Staudt

> National College of Naturopathic Medicine

> Dean of Clinics

> 503-552-2093

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tami,

I wonder if Gelsemium would be helpful.

Keivan

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami,

In the same vein, and after a night's sleep, 2 more ideas that come to

me are: 1. charcoal (carbon) capsules; and 2. Homeopathic Nitrogen

(make up a 6C from the liquid nitrogen in minor surgery)...Bob

On Dec 15, 2004, at 5:45 PM, Tamara Staudt wrote:

>

> Hi group,

>

> Anyone have thoughts or experience with DCS Type I? I received a

> voice

> mail from a friend on the east coast. She completed a " sucessful " dive

> approx 6 weeks ago. Then drove home (elevation 1500 '). Despite the

> fact she had taken time in the decompression chamber during her ascent

> it seems the increased elevation on her drive home caused problems.

> She

> felt light headed, headachy and achy overall. Next day she spoke with

> dive experts and docs and was referred back to compression chamber.

> She

> spent several hours there. The next day not much improvement and they

> put her back in for another 8 hours. At this point she continues to

> have lingering symptoms attributed to DCS. Symptoms are primarily

> " achy, weak, crampy, nervy " feeling in limbs and joints.

>

> From what I know DCS is from trapped Nitrogen bubbles. The nitrogen

> itself is not thought to be a problem but the pressure of the bubbles

> on

> the nerves and organs can cause damage. The medical system has said

> there is nothing else they can do for her and she'll just have to wait

> and see what happens.

>

> I have not yet spoken with her in person, but will probably speak with

> her this weekend and offer recommendations.

>

> Thoughts or ideas or wondrous UNDA group?

>

> --

> Dr. Tamara Staudt

> National College of Naturopathic Medicine

> Dean of Clinics

> 503-552-2093

>

>

>

>

>

>

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