Re: Re: MSC

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This is NOT a SLAM on Shoemaker but a comment that the statement about

mold is NOT set in concrete/stone/metal etc.

No one CAUSE and no one CURE....

I repeat myelf....why hasn't he teamed up wiht Ziem....and see her pts and

how they are not ALL mold related. AKA SUzanne Fischer owner of Natures

Country Store....victim of Round UP and NOT mold and has rehabbed herself

back with Grace's protocol.

Suzanne F.

In 1996, the homeowners association for our 82-townhome community hired an

unlicensed, uncertified lawn maintenance contractor. He sprayed wide

swaths of RoundUp by Monsanto instead of edging around flower beds,

hedges, etc.

I chewed on some of the grass that had been sprayed, and worked in and

around it, not knowing it had been poisoned. Our eldest cat ate some of

the poisoned grass. Our precious long-haired white cat friend, Puffin,

died of renal failure as a direct result of eating the grass.

I almost died twice from this first exposure and four other major ones.

Two burned the insides of my lungs, one took a divot out of the cornea of

my left eye, and the last one caused severe abdominal swelling that is

still with me.

I became bed bound and could not walk without assistance.

I now have seizure disorder, damaged red blood cells, peripheral and

central nervous system disorder, liver damage, toxic encephalopathy, and

extreme chemical sensitivity.

Here are the stories from the TRENCHES...not just names in a book.....

Mold is NOT the prevsailing trigger and not prevelant as everyone on here

seems to think it is!

We created this years ago for people to read the FIRST HAND accounts not

watered down tales/stories etc.

http://www.herc.org/wall/

Pall is doing great research so is

Shedding light on Gulf War Ills

By Lamb Dayton Daily News

The goal was to explain a serious medical condition affecting thousands of

Gulf War veterans, whose symptoms have been dismissed and ridiculed for

lack of understanding them.When they finished, researchers at State

University's medical school also shed important new light on another

serious medical condition affecting millions of civilians whose symptoms

have also been dismissed and ridiculed.Gulf War syndrome and

multiple-chemical sensitivity both are a baffling and often debilitating

collection of diverse symptoms.Both can leave people with cloudy thinking,

unable to concentrate or remember.Both can cause weakness, pain or

numbness

in the muscles and joints.Both can lead to headaches, dizziness, rashes,

diarrhea or persistent fatigue.And victims of both have specific

biochemical peculiarities, it turns out. Those discoveries, by more than a

dozen Ph.D.-level researchers over four years, will help identify those

who

have either affliction explain why they have it and raise a realistic hope

of finding ways to treat it.Everybody has enzymes that help break down

small amounts of toxic chemicals and chase them harmlessly out of their

bodies. Chemically sensitive people, who have significantly lower levels

of

those enzymes, can become seriously ill from mere traces of some

commonplace chemicals. " We were able to clearly discriminate between normal

and sensitive groups, " said Gerald Alter, who did much of the enzyme

research. Just by analyzing blood samples, colleague Berberich

said,

he could tell a sensitive patient from someone else. " It doesn't

necessarily

take high levels of chemicals, " said Organisciak, who chairs the

department of biochemistry and molecular biology. " Not just the levels

that

we already knew might cause problems, but relatively low levels that might

be in the environment all the time. " That makes sense to Dr.

,

who treats chemical sensitivity in her Centerville practice. Chemicals

also

could be causing genetic abnormalities that lead to the enzyme deficiency,

she said.Follow-up research will try to tease out the roles of both

inherited genes and environmental contacts, Berberich said. He hopes it

will lead to a diagnostic test that could identify chemically sensitive

people before their symptoms overwhelm them. " From a patient's standpoint,

it's wonderful to have this validation, " said Jackie Barton of

Centerville. " It's good that people understand this is a legitimate

problem,

and that when I ask people not to wear perfume, I'm not doing it just to

be

difficult or controlling. I have a very uncomfortable, sometimes long-term

reaction to things like fragrances, paint, new carpeting, even the

chemicals thrown off by fluorescent lights. " The Department of Defense gave

State $7.2 million toward the cost of the study and the

establishment of its Center for Genomics Research. With support from Rep.

Hobson, R-Springfield, and Springfield philanthropist

Petticrew,

Organisciak said, the researchers explored the similarities between Gulf

War veterans and the broader chemically sensitive population, which the

National Academy of Sciences has estimated at up to 15 percent of

Americans.Gulf War syndrome appears to be at least partly a heightened

sensitivity to low doses of sarin, a chemical weapon known to damage the

brain and nevous system in higher amounts. While it's impossible to trace

directly to the estimated 80,000 veterans with symptoms, evidence

indicates

microscopic sarin exposure could be at least one of the causes. " We can't

be

so cavalier in terms of low-dose exposure, " said na , who

chairs

the pharmacology and toxicology department. Although the damage from small

amounts isn't easily measured, " that doesn't mean you're not having an

effect. " Alter's group specifically tested organo-phosphates and

formaldehyde. They both " pervade modern homes and workplaces, " he said,

the

former in insecticides and the latter in a vast array of synthetic

products

that include Perma-Press clothing, construction pressboard and

carpeting. " We live in a toxic soup, let's face it, " said. " We've

been

eating pesticides and herbicides laced into our foods, albeit in very low

concentrations, since the late 1940s. It's a huge chemical experiment that

needs to be looked at, as to why we're seeing so much more

chemical sensitivity over the last 25 years.

I have spent time discussing their theories and will be getting their

report as soon as its finalized. They will be going a larger group

analysis and rest assure....most peopel with chemical injury from what

EVER trigger will want to see what they are lacking to try and mitigate

this malady.

So lets stop throwing out the baby in the bath water.....

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, healthier4all wrote:

> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:10:18 -0000

> From: healthier4all <Healthier4All@...>

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> Subject: [] Re: MSC

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> <Healthier4All@...> wrote:

>>> Dr. Pall is doing some interesting work with MCS;

> professionals are> following his protocol also.

>> See:

> http://molecular.biosciences.wsu.edu/Faculty/pall/pall_mcs.htm

>>> Much good research being done now,> Rosie>>>

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> PS: Was looking on http://www.moldwarriors.com/mold-illness-

> faqs.cfm#22 and found Dr. Shoemakers discussion about MCS and also

> Dr. Pall. I'm glad he's investigating Dr. Pall's research:

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> " Why am I now so sensitive to various chemicals, perfumes,

> petrochemicals, inks, fumes from computers and copying machines?

> So-called Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS) is still a commonly

> seen clinical condition without much in the way of a confirmatory

> diagnostic literature. I have treated more than 500 patients with

> MCS, and have developed the condition myself, but I still haven & #146;t

> found anyone with MCS who didn & #146;t begin their illness with mold

> exposure. My illness responded nicely to medications; many don't.

> Following a long recent discussion with Dr. Pall, we're

> looking at changing levels of cit- rulline, an amino acid made when

> nitric oxide interacts with another amino acid, arginine, after an

> exposure adequate to initiate MCS symptoms. If we & #146;re able to create

> MCS symptoms, it could implicate changes in nitric oxide metabolism

> in MCS patients. But no one knows why MCS occurs. "

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