Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi Leni, Stop the protocol. Give him a single dose of Belladonna 200K return to basic drainage. Too much stimulation, possibly heavy metals (likely with autism) still too imbedded in the CNS. So in addition to belladonna UNDA 2 20 258 (or some combination that you feel is appropriate) CuAuAg - Dr. Abell reported on his teleconference that it helps to clear heavy metals and is very appropriate for the TB miasm, a good bet in this case. We are not yet ready for the brain protocol. This happened to me many times before I realized the importance of patience. You are doing amazing work with your patients. Keep it up. Dick Dear Dr. Thom and Unda Group, Last month I gave Dr. Thom an Update (via this Unda group) on who just started Phase I of "Rebalancing & Harmonizing Program". ( is 4 yrs old with touch of autism, been on drainage for 1-1/4 years and done very well. also has lots of food allergies. Gaining some improvement too. Last month his parents thought he was beginning to make eye contact after one week of being on Phase I of Reharmonizing Protocol.) completed one three week cycle on Phase I. He was using doing one dose per day of: 3 drops of Unda #'s, 3 drops of organo therapies, 1 pellet calcarea carbonica. As first 3 weeks finished his parents thought "maybe they were imagining the eye contact" did not seem to continue. Nothing else noticed - but he seemed good and stable. On week off he seemed more stirred up, bit agitated at things (but he did swim in a chlorine pool). Started next 3 week cycle. He has been on this cycle for 1.5 weeks. Increased Unda drops to 5 drops, 3 of organo's, 1 Cacl Carb AND increased to a morning and night time dose. (2 doses per day now instead of 1). 's mom just called. He is waking at night, seems to be having some scary dreams. Mom says he seems "way less focused. Seems to be having problems processing information. I have to get right in his face to get him hear me." He is not retaining anything. Ask him to hand me pajamas, he will hand glass of water. Ask me for bucket of water (non chlorinated pool). Mom will say what did I tell you? He'll say, "put Barbie in the Bucket." This started one week ago (he started this second 3 week cycle 1 week ago). He is quick to be upset. Having to explain to grandmother, etc., if you want to talk to him you have to get right in front of him. Everyone noticing. It's gotten pretty bad." Mom is great. Wants me to know what is going on. My question: Have you seen this type of response before? Will it "rise and fall"? (How soon----just kidding! so you can see I still have a sense of humor). Shall we keep moving forward on same dose? Shall I drop back to one dose per day? So far I've told his MOm that his nervous system is probably trying to work something out and just let him go through it. Of course her concern is "could he get stuck here". Please comment, Dr. Thom and my Unda friends! THANK YOU IN ADVANCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Dear Dr. Thom, THANK YOU! for taking the time to respond! Incredible support. I spoke with 's Mom this morning. had napped yesterday afternoon and company they had left. Apparently they had visitors and the house was bustling. The house became quiet, slept and was more balanced when he woke and before bed. His mom was going to observe him today and let me know if the calm and balance is significant - that is if he is back to his normal self. He already had his morning dose. If he is " back to " should we move forward or stop anticipating that we've " seen enough " ? (Actually I will update the group when I hear from mom so we have more details.) AGAIN, THANK YOU DR. THOM AND GROUP! At 01:47 AM 7/22/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi Leni, Stop the protocol. Give him a single dose of Belladonna 200K return to basic drainage. Too much stimulation, possibly heavy metals (likely with autism) still too imbedded in the CNS. So in addition to belladonna UNDA 2 20 258 (or some combination that you feel is appropriate) CuAuAg - Dr. Abell reported on his teleconference that it helps to clear heavy metals and is very appropriate for the TB miasm, a good bet in this case. We are not yet ready for the brain protocol. This happened to me many times before I realized the importance of patience. You are doing amazing work with your patients. Keep it up. Dick Dear Dr. Thom and Unda Group, Last month I gave Dr. Thom an Update (via this Unda group) on who just started Phase I of " Rebalancing & Harmonizing Program " . ( is 4 yrs old with touch of autism, been on drainage for 1-1/4 years and done very well. also has lots of food allergies. Gaining some improvement too. Last month his parents thought he was beginning to make eye contact after one week of being on Phase I of Reharmonizing Protocol.) completed one three week cycle on Phase I. He was using doing one dose per day of: 3 drops of Unda #'s, 3 drops of organo therapies, 1 pellet calcarea carbonica. As first 3 weeks finished his parents thought " maybe they were imagining the eye contact " did not seem to continue. Nothing else noticed - but he seemed good and stable. On week off he seemed more stirred up, bit agitated at things (but he did swim in a chlorine pool). Started next 3 week cycle. He has been on this cycle for 1.5 weeks. Increased Unda drops to 5 drops, 3 of organo's, 1 Cacl Carb AND increased to a morning and night time dose. (2 doses per day now instead of 1). 's mom just called. He is waking at night, seems to be having some scary dreams. Mom says he seems " way less focused. Seems to be having problems processing information. I have to get right in his face to get him hear me. " He is not retaining anything. Ask him to hand me pajamas, he will hand glass of water. Ask me for bucket of water (non chlorinated pool). Mom will say what did I tell you? He'll say, " put Barbie in the Bucket. " This started one week ago (he started this second 3 week cycle 1 week ago). He is quick to be upset. Having to explain to grandmother, etc., if you want to talk to him you have to get right in front of him. Everyone noticing. It's gotten pretty bad. " Mom is great. Wants me to know what is going on. My question: Have you seen this type of response before? Will it " rise and fall " ? (How soon----just kidding! so you can see I still have a sense of humor). Shall we keep moving forward on same dose? Shall I drop back to one dose per day? So far I've told his MOm that his nervous system is probably trying to work something out and just let him go through it. Of course her concern is " could he get stuck here " . Please comment, Dr. Thom and my Unda friends! THANK YOU IN ADVANCE! Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Leni, Even if quiets down, I would still do the treatment I suggested. It is true that too much stimulation (a problem for ANY autistic child) likely put him over the edge, it is probably still a little premature to stay with the brain protocol. We will need to adjust it too often at this time (in my opinion) so let's assume some heavy metals are involved and go from there. In addition to what I already said, add gammadyn Zn. Virtually all patients with these problems have problems with this metal and benefit from taking it as a gammadyn form. Keep us updated. Dick Dear Dr. Thom, THANK YOU! for taking the time to respond! Incredible support. I spoke with 's Mom this morning. had napped yesterday afternoon and company they had left. Apparently they had visitors and the house was bustling. The house became quiet, slept and was more balanced when he woke and before bed. His mom was going to observe him today and let me know if the calm and balance is significant - that is if he is back to his normal self. He already had his morning dose. If he is "back to " should we move forward or stop anticipating that we've "seen enough"? (Actually I will update the group when I hear from mom so we have more details.) AGAIN, THANK YOU DR. THOM AND GROUP! At 01:47 AM 7/22/2004 -0400, you wrote: Hi Leni, Stop the protocol. Give him a single dose of Belladonna 200K return to basic drainage. Too much stimulation, possibly heavy metals (likely with autism) still too imbedded in the CNS. So in addition to belladonna UNDA 2 20 258 (or some combination that you feel is appropriate) CuAuAg - Dr. Abell reported on his teleconference that it helps to clear heavy metals and is very appropriate for the TB miasm, a good bet in this case. We are not yet ready for the brain protocol. This happened to me many times before I realized the importance of patience. You are doing amazing work with your patients. Keep it up. Dick Dear Dr. Thom and Unda Group, Last month I gave Dr. Thom an Update (via this Unda group) on who just started Phase I of "Rebalancing & Harmonizing Program". ( is 4 yrs old with touch of autism, been on drainage for 1-1/4 years and done very well. also has lots of food allergies. Gaining some improvement too. Last month his parents thought he was beginning to make eye contact after one week of being on Phase I of Reharmonizing Protocol.) completed one three week cycle on Phase I. He was using doing one dose per day of: 3 drops of Unda #'s, 3 drops of organo therapies, 1 pellet calcarea carbonica. As first 3 weeks finished his parents thought "maybe they were imagining the eye contact" did not seem to continue. Nothing else noticed - but he seemed good and stable. On week off he seemed more stirred up, bit agitated at things (but he did swim in a chlorine pool). Started next 3 week cycle. He has been on this cycle for 1.5 weeks. Increased Unda drops to 5 drops, 3 of organo's, 1 Cacl Carb AND increased to a morning and night time dose. (2 doses per day now instead of 1). 's mom just called. He is waking at night, seems to be having some scary dreams. Mom says he seems "way less focused. Seems to be having problems processing information. I have to get right in his face to get him hear me." He is not retaining anything. Ask him to hand me pajamas, he will hand glass of water. Ask me for bucket of water (non chlorinated pool). Mom will say what did I tell you? He'll say, "put Barbie in the Bucket." This started one week ago (he started this second 3 week cycle 1 week ago). He is quick to be upset. Having to explain to grandmother, etc., if you want to talk to him you have to get right in front of him. Everyone noticing. It's gotten pretty bad." Mom is great. Wants me to know what is going on. My question: Have you seen this type of response before? Will it "rise and fall"? (How soon----just kidding! so you can see I still have a sense of humor). Shall we keep moving forward on same dose? Shall I drop back to one dose per day? So far I've told his MOm that his nervous system is probably trying to work something out and just let him go through it. Of course her concern is "could he get stuck here". Please comment, Dr. Thom and my Unda friends! THANK YOU IN ADVANCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 ROUTINE - the #1 treatment for children. Dick Dear Dr. Thom and Unda Group, was better - more balanced - due to his nap and exit of guests yesterday but not yet "back to himself". His mom also spoke of the change they have had in his schedule over the past two months in that he is not taking naps daily since school has been out. She said without my provocation, "I had no idea being on a schedule was doing so much to keep him balanced." (He's four). I could only think of the Adrenal Phase (re establishing rhythm) and the work we are doing. She's going to observe him tomorrow but I'm guessing your counsel would still to stop protocol? I think I'm learning a lesson, as you said, about patience? Thank you in advance for your consideration and any comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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