Re: Re: A few questions from Iceland ....

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Hi Mygla, with me it has been mostly a trail and error . I have

omitted sugar from my diet, except chocalate, hehe, one of my biggest

graveings, my body tells me what I can have or not have. if you have

problems with smells like perfumes, chemicals, gases, exc.MCS,

multiple chemical sensativitys, you have to make your home as free

of these things as possable. here we have some shampoos, laudry

detergents, and soaps with lesser perfume smells, again its a trail

and error or if you can get a friend to do this shopping for you that

is not ill from mold, they can smell different products for you, and

get them for you so you dont have to get sick just trying to find

these products. no question is stupied here, we all have many

unanswered questions.>>>>

Hi there. What a fascinating thread and I'll slowly will be putting my

petals of thoughts into this subject since I've been researching this for a

number of years.

My first thought is if anyone does have multiple chemical sensitivities then

the number one priority should be to eliminate as many chemicals as possible

in the home; not just " LESSER " perfume smell.....but all artificial scents.

Look to purchase fragrance free products not " unscented " . Often unscented

products contain fragrances whose odors are masks by more chemicals.

Remember the key is the lessen the chemicals to reduce the toxic load.

Someone may begin by having just a few sensitivities to let's say perfumes,

fabric softeners, and the plug in air fresheners. After a while they start

reacting to more chemicals (odors) and soon they are almost unable to go

anywhere without reacting and their reactions increase in intensity as their

exposures increase. Just like toxic mold illness. Chemicals cause brain

damage also as do toxic molds.

Learning some basics about the chemicals in our homes (everyday products we

all use and see advertised on TV and in the stores), how they affect us and

some safer alternative products is imperative to our already compromised

bodies. Products can be chosen based upon our finances; ie if we have

unlimited finances we can purchased them in the U.S.; if limited finances we

can learn to make our own most of the time.

Learn to tolerate a few bugs, a little spider, etc. Don't reach for the

spray bug killer. Make up a spray bottle of 1/3 non-toxic dishwashing

detergent and fill the rest with water. This will kill the bugs including a

wasp nest (I've done it). So many things we can do. Consider building

products, paints in the homes, new furniture (plastics, inexpensive ones,

electronics, appliances that can off-gas, new vehicles, Clorox, ammonia),

your toiletries, toothpaste, new clothing, new sheets, dry cleaners, etc

Super topic and what fun we'll have discussion this.

Rosie

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:33:38 -0600, you wrote:

>Learn to tolerate a few bugs, a little spider, etc. Don't reach for the

>spray bug killer. Make up a spray bottle of 1/3 non-toxic dishwashing

>detergent and fill the rest with water.

Having been exposed to pesticides before becoming unbelievably

incapacitated with illness I am extremely paranoid of pesticides.

They leave residues that are absorbed by dust particles and become

airborne. Very dangerous! You can't just spray that stuff in cracks

and expect it to stay there and be as harmless as a cup of coffee as

those in the industry often tout.

I was amazed the first time I sprayed a palmetto bug with dishwashing

detergent as described above. Of course it does not leave a residue

that kills insects long after it is applied.

For ants I use a home made bait. I buy a nice t-bone steak and eat

most of it but save a few bits and pieces for bait. (Don't buy a cheap

cut and expect them to be attracted to it)

I dip the pieces in aboric acid and set them in the path of an ant

trail.

I wiped out a whole nest under my trailer this way. They were

running rampant in my trailer. The reason more people don't use aboric

acid is the results are not immediate and it looks messy sitting on

your counters. What they don't understand is it will completely solve

your pest problem and it's for all intent's and purposes non-toxic

when used as a bait. Baits are always by far the safest way to kill

pest's.

If you put aboric acid in your carpet and pound it into your

baseboards with a broom it will completely rid you of your fleas, if

you sprinkle it in the back of your cupboards and cabinets it will

completely rid you of your roaches. These application methods may

raise risk to your health but I think it is negligible. I am no

expert though. I would be interested in anyone else's opinion on

it's safety when used in this manor..

It is far safer than conventional sprays and more effective.

Beyond pesticides has a lot of useful information on it at this link.

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticides/factsheets/Boric%20Acid.pdf

I swear by the stuff. It is sold under the brand name of " roach

proof " in albertsons or walmart or any other major retail outlet.

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Hi : I'm so happy that you are not using pesticides either. They are

neurotoxins for humans and have caused brain injury. Dr. Kilburn's book

discusses them in detail.

" Very dangerous! You can't just spray that stuff in cracks

and expect it to stay there and be as harmless as a cup of coffee as

those in the industry often tout. "

You are right and people are so used to a bug spray they don't know of the

dangers.

" I was amazed the first time I sprayed a palmetto bug with dishwashing

detergent as described above. Of course it does not leave a residue

that kills insects long after it is applied. "

Giggles it really does work quickly. We had a huge wasp nest by our front

door after the hurricane and DH was ready to run to the store for some big

killer. I convinced him to let me try my soap mixture. Course he didn't

believe me. I opened the front door just a tad, started spraying and closed

the door. Took another peak outside and they were all dead on the ground.

That sold DH.

>>>For ants I use a home made bait. I buy a nice t-bone steak and eat

most of it but save a few bits and pieces for bait. (Don't buy a cheap

cut and expect them to be attracted to it)

I dip the pieces in aboric acid and set them in the path of an ant

trail.>>>>

giggles and more giggles. What a smile you put on heart and face with your

description of the t-bone steak--good quality. Lol even ants can tell the

difference. Brilliant idea using the t-bone for the bait and the boric

acid. I usually mix the boric acid with a little honey or sugar; your

t-bone sounds better.

" I wiped out a whole nest under my trailer this way. They were

running rampant in my trailer. The reason more people don't use aboric

acid is the results are not immediate and it looks messy sitting on

your counters. What they don't understand is it will completely solve

your pest problem and it's for all intent's and purposes non-toxic

when used as a bait. Baits are always by far the safest way to kill

pest's. "

I'm so glad you shared this with the group and hope everyone will read and

do the same. Boric acid really does work, just not as quick as our soapy

water spray. Dangerous pesticides we don't need at all in our homes. Safer

for children, pets and adults.

>If you put aboric acid in your carpet and pound it into your

baseboards with a broom it will completely rid you of your fleas, if

you sprinkle it in the back of your cupboards and cabinets it will

completely rid you of your roaches. These application methods may

raise risk to your health but I think it is negligible. I am no

expert though. I would be interested in anyone else's opinion on

it's safety when used in this manor..>>

My only concern about having boric acid on the floors or anywhere is if

small baby or pet could find it and ingest. It would have to be well hidden

in such homes but can be accomplished with a little creativity.

Thanks so much,

Rosie

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A soapy rag/mop will kill on contact.

Ever notice you rarely see ants in a sink?

Soapy water with some cayenne pepper or crushed red pepper in an ant

hole...Or pour some liquid dishwashing soap and a hose...by by ants.

Steve Tvent used to have a free download of The Bug Stops Here on his

website getipm.com.

FOrmer extermiator who got CI and now is all IPM.

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Christ wrote:

> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:34:59 -0500

> From: Christ <antares41-41@...>

> Reply-

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> Subject: Re: [] Re: A few questions from Iceland ....

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> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:33:38 -0600, you wrote:

>

>> Learn to tolerate a few bugs, a little spider, etc. Don't reach for the

>> spray bug killer. Make up a spray bottle of 1/3 non-toxic dishwashing

>> detergent and fill the rest with water.

>

> Having been exposed to pesticides before becoming unbelievably

> incapacitated with illness I am extremely paranoid of pesticides.

> They leave residues that are absorbed by dust particles and become

> airborne. Very dangerous! You can't just spray that stuff in cracks

> and expect it to stay there and be as harmless as a cup of coffee as

> those in the industry often tout.

>

> I was amazed the first time I sprayed a palmetto bug with dishwashing

> detergent as described above. Of course it does not leave a residue

> that kills insects long after it is applied.

>

> For ants I use a home made bait. I buy a nice t-bone steak and eat

> most of it but save a few bits and pieces for bait. (Don't buy a cheap

> cut and expect them to be attracted to it)

> I dip the pieces in aboric acid and set them in the path of an ant

> trail.

> I wiped out a whole nest under my trailer this way. They were

> running rampant in my trailer. The reason more people don't use aboric

> acid is the results are not immediate and it looks messy sitting on

> your counters. What they don't understand is it will completely solve

> your pest problem and it's for all intent's and purposes non-toxic

> when used as a bait. Baits are always by far the safest way to kill

> pest's.

>

> If you put aboric acid in your carpet and pound it into your

> baseboards with a broom it will completely rid you of your fleas, if

> you sprinkle it in the back of your cupboards and cabinets it will

> completely rid you of your roaches. These application methods may

> raise risk to your health but I think it is negligible. I am no

> expert though. I would be interested in anyone else's opinion on

> it's safety when used in this manor..

>

> It is far safer than conventional sprays and more effective.

> Beyond pesticides has a lot of useful information on it at this link.

> http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticides/factsheets/Boric%20Acid.pdf

>

>

> I swear by the stuff. It is sold under the brand name of " roach

> proof " in albertsons or walmart or any other major retail outlet.

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