Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 >>Behalf Of erikmoldwarrior The conundrum is that those who need the information the most are too brainfogged to understand it. " Exactly and that's why I mentioned this and that YOU and other experts gently in lay terms answer some basic questions rather than having them read a book they cannot comprehend. " That's why I feel that the only true solution is to get some foundation or coalition to get a small fleet of specially constructed mold free trailers to use as a refuge and a teaching device. I agree and this has been a dream of mine for some time. And that's why I suggested YOU are the one who has the ability, the drive, the intelligence and knowledge to start a foundation and get necessary funding. Once you've accomplished that, bought the land and trailers along with a staff of medical experts in their own building to provide appropriate treatment, we need to disseminate the information to the public and then have an infrastructure in place to visit the mold victims, help them with the preparations for the move, if they have children to contact the school system and make arrangements for the children, provide transportation for them, etc. Then once they are stable, how to integrate them into society to support themselves. Question would be how/who decides who will come to this refuge and who is turned down since thousands need such a refuge. >>>Those who understand the problem have to get people out - and into an area where they can regain mental function sufficiently to understand what has happened, and what they must do about it>>> I'm with you 100%. I wish this would have been available to me when I was exposed. I wish my friend who is living in a moldy home whose husband refuses to acknowledge her illness and will not allow her to go outside HMO network would have this opportunity. Question is WHO is going to pay for this? >>>Those of us fortunate enough to have bailed out and reclaimed part of our brains need to study the book and help explain it to others. >> Totally agree and hope you will find time to post more on this group. Don't know if you have any contact with Dr. Shoemaker; if you do perhaps you could convince him to answer some of the more difficult concepts and you forward his answers to the group. Think that's possible? >>>The people who are completely lost amidst an ocean of clueless doctors need to get the book and attempt to relate to those of us who have put a lot of effort into understanding the concepts.>>> Can you contact Shoemaker to see if he will give the members of this group a special discount? >>>If we work together, maybe we can make better sense of it.>>>> Very wise . Bravo and thank you! I think one of the wisest statements you've made. WE need to work together to help each other, those now ill and in the future. I'm so proud of you for stating this! We need to share our knowledge to help each other. There is strength, hope and answers if people unite for a cause. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 * : comments: And honestly never mind trhe fact that frankly Dr. Shoemaker's writing is not very easy to understand. He meanders from story to story (and I have read Desperation Medicine and Mold Warriors) and it is difficultr to find summary information within his very interesting stories. For those that need to the point information to give to their doctor or sound bites to understand the importrant points, thney are sorely lacking in Dr. Shoemaker's writing. [**] He has not done himself a service by writing in the folksy style that he has because it makes it very difficult to translate what he has found into step by step instructions, symptoms, lab findings etc that can be quickly given to our own practicing doctors nevermind those with residual cognitive dysfunction and brain fog and CNS system issues and declining health. >>Behalf Of erikmoldwarrior The conundrum is that those who need the information the most are too brainfogged to understand it. " Exactly and that's why I mentioned this and that YOU and other experts gently in lay terms answer some basic questions rather than having them read a book they cannot comprehend. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 >>On Behalf Of L He has not done himself a service by writing in the folksy style that he has because it makes it very difficult to translate what he has found into step by step instructions, symptoms, lab findings etc that can be quickly given to our own practicing doctors nevermind those with residual cognitive dysfunction and brain fog and CNS system issues and declining health.>> Thanks for your honest response. I remember when I first became ill and couldn't even read and comprehend the daily newspaper. It was so incredible frustrating. A while back a bought Dr. Schaller's E-book called Mold Illness Made Simple (almost 160 pages) and found it to be a wonderful, informative and easy to read book giving me all the basic information on toxic mold illness, remediation, diagnostic tests, some protocols, etc. I recall posting to the group that this E-book should be in everyone's home. It's the perfect primer and book for those with cognitive dysfunction. I'd like for everyone to have this book because we know 1/3 of the buildings are contaminated with mold and more will be in the future. If people had this book to educate themselves, to know the symptoms of toxic mold illness, where to look for mold, pictures of mold and steps necessary to remediate their homes much time, damage and human injury could be avoided. The pictures in the book are very helpful. The average person isn't going to read Dr. Shoemaker's book unless they are ill; however Dr. Schaller's Mold Illness Made Simple is fun and easy to read and very helpful. Dr. Schaller shared in the E-book how to remediate moldy books which I really appreciate. I'm an avid reader, have over 600 books and often shop in used book stores trying to find more; especially out-of-print alternative health books. Often they are musky smelling and I did not purchase them. Thanks to Dr. Schaller I can now purchase these treasures, clean them and safely use them. So excited to know this. Have friend out of state that has a $250 moldy herbal book she's been holding for me for 2 years. I can finally ask her to send it to me. Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 " healthier4all " wrote: > >>On Behalf Of L > He has not done himself a service by writing in the folksy style that he has because it makes it very difficult to translate what he has found into step by step instructions, symptoms, lab findings etc that can be quickly given to our own practicing doctors nevermind those with residual cognitive dysfunction and brain fog and CNS system issues and declining health.>> > > Thanks for your honest response. I remember when I first became ill and couldn't even read and comprehend the daily newspaper. It was so incredible frustrating. -Rosie > I think Dr S. performed an incredible service by " colloqualizing " his information to the greatest extent possible in an effort to make it accessible to the greatest number of people. You should try to read his technical papers! I can barely able get through three words before I'm totally stymied. This is a difficult subject, or average doctors would already understand it, and the folksy style is far easier that the usual " Shoemakereese " that almost nobody can understand. Rosie, the measures you describe implementing suggest that you are a PIR 4 who is very closer to becoming PIR 5. What is your backup strategy and which evacuation procedures have you planned in the event that an inflammatory event or extraordinary exposure tips you from " Unrealistic to just pack up and leave " into " Impossible to remain any longer " ? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 I'm going to have to start proofreading what I write. Got a good " slam " yesterday and my writing shows it. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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