Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 thank you , I have read very little on this but knew that fat cells and cronic fatique, maybe to help the storage of fat cells for this to live off of played a role in there somewhere. > > > I have a question for you all. Why do you think it is that some of > us are able to basically go about our business after being so sick, > while for others, only extreme avoidance allows them to be healthy? > > Sharon > > > Dr Shoemaker explains this most eloquently in Desperation Medicine. > It is the " Dissociation Constant " of toxin release from receptors. > This is not solely a question of toxic dose from exposure to toxins > outside the body. Biotoxin illness is mediated by whether sufficient > upregulation occurs to disturb the equilibrium of the ion gradient > that keeps the ionophore toxins bound to their receptors in the fat > cells in a " molecular bear trap " . > This is a process that can be visualized by thinking of osmosis, > except that instead of water molecules responding to disparity of > solute concentrations, dissociation of toxins is based on > electrostatic principles of attraction. > CSM can soak up enough recirculating toxins to cause " dissociation " si. > The sudden release of endogenous toxins causes an inflammatory cascade > which increases the level of cytokines so dramatically that > the " intensification " reaction can be more damaging than an exposure > to a toxic building. If someone with the double dreaded mold gene goes > through this " intensificatio " , they have the most extreme form of > metabolic inadequacy to clear these recirculating toxins. > This really throws people off the track, because they suffer even > more intensely just when the " allergy " model of illness says they > should be improving. > Surviving the " Herx " (It's not really a tradition Herx, but the word > works anyway) is absolutely brutal, but Dr. Shoemaker has worked out > ways to dampen down the upregulation with Pioglitazone. I haven't > tried this myself, but I like the fact that Dr Shoemaker is proposing > an incredibly logical explanation for all the sensations I have > experienced. And others HAVE benefitted by this protocol. > To understand what separates the fundamental mechanism of biotoxin > mediated responses that are " upstream " of genetic HLA variables, you > must read " Solving the Herxheimer " in Desperation Medicine. > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 sorry , I dont think Im eloquent enough to read this book and make a lot of sence out of it. sounds like its wrote for doctors. my brain gets to hurting trying to desiffer it all,lol's, is there a easy to understand version? dissociation constant- is this the withdrawel symptoms you get when you get out of the mold? molecular bear trap- is this the why we suffer cronic fatigue and gain weight even though we eat less than we did?, because our bodys are trying to store fat to feed these toxins? in this is all in the book mold warriors by Dr. Shoemaker? how hard is this book to understand by someone thats not a doctor and may be suffering from consentration problems. and has any one got a regular doctor that you take this book to and he actually takes time to read it? > > > I have a question for you all. Why do you think it is that some of > us are able to basically go about our business after being so sick, > while for others, only extreme avoidance allows them to be healthy? > > Sharon > > > Dr Shoemaker explains this most eloquently in Desperation Medicine. > It is the " Dissociation Constant " of toxin release from receptors. > This is not solely a question of toxic dose from exposure to toxins > outside the body. Biotoxin illness is mediated by whether sufficient > upregulation occurs to disturb the equilibrium of the ion gradient > that keeps the ionophore toxins bound to their receptors in the fat > cells in a " molecular bear trap " . > This is a process that can be visualized by thinking of osmosis, > except that instead of water molecules responding to disparity of > solute concentrations, dissociation of toxins is based on > electrostatic principles of attraction. > CSM can soak up enough recirculating toxins to cause " dissociation " si. > The sudden release of endogenous toxins causes an inflammatory cascade > which increases the level of cytokines so dramatically that > the " intensification " reaction can be more damaging than an exposure > to a toxic building. If someone with the double dreaded mold gene goes > through this " intensificatio " , they have the most extreme form of > metabolic inadequacy to clear these recirculating toxins. > This really throws people off the track, because they suffer even > more intensely just when the " allergy " model of illness says they > should be improving. > Surviving the " Herx " (It's not really a tradition Herx, but the word > works anyway) is absolutely brutal, but Dr. Shoemaker has worked out > ways to dampen down the upregulation with Pioglitazone. I haven't > tried this myself, but I like the fact that Dr Shoemaker is proposing > an incredibly logical explanation for all the sensations I have > experienced. And others HAVE benefitted by this protocol. > To understand what separates the fundamental mechanism of biotoxin > mediated responses that are " upstream " of genetic HLA variables, you > must read " Solving the Herxheimer " in Desperation Medicine. > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 thank you Carl, for explaining this to me > > > > > > > I have a question for you all. Why do you think it is that some > > of > > > us are able to basically go about our business after being so > > sick, > > > while for others, only extreme avoidance allows them to be > > healthy? > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > Dr Shoemaker explains this most eloquently in Desperation Medicine. > > > It is the " Dissociation Constant " of toxin release from receptors. > > > This is not solely a question of toxic dose from exposure to > > toxins > > > outside the body. Biotoxin illness is mediated by whether > > sufficient > > > upregulation occurs to disturb the equilibrium of the ion gradient > > > that keeps the ionophore toxins bound to their receptors in the fat > > > cells in a " molecular bear trap " . This is a process that can be > > > visualized by thinking of osmosis, except that instead of water > > > molecules responding to disparity of solute concentrations, > > > dissociation of toxins is based on electrostatic principles of > > > attraction. CSM can soak up enough recirculating toxins to cause > > > " dissociation " > > si. > > > The sudden release of endogenous toxins causes an inflammatory > > cascade > > > which increases the level of cytokines so dramatically that > > > the " intensification " reaction can be more damaging than an > > exposure > > > to a toxic building. If someone with the double dreaded mold gene > > goes > > > through this " intensificatio " , they have the most extreme form of > > > metabolic inadequacy to clear these recirculating toxins. > > > This really throws people off the track, because they suffer even > > > more intensely just when the " allergy " model of illness says they > > > should be improving. Surviving the " Herx " (It's not really a > > > tradition Herx, but the > > word > > > works anyway) is absolutely brutal, but Dr. Shoemaker has worked > > out > > > ways to dampen down the upregulation with Pioglitazone. I haven't > > > tried this myself, but I like the fact that Dr Shoemaker is > > proposing > > > an incredibly logical explanation for all the sensations I have > > > experienced. And others HAVE benefitted by this protocol. > > > To understand what separates the fundamental mechanism of biotoxin > > > mediated responses that are " upstream " of genetic HLA variables, > > you > > > must read " Solving the Herxheimer " in Desperation Medicine. > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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