RE: Re: Top 12 Produce to Avoid due to Pesticides-Barb

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> Rosie, ..so you think organic foods in stores like Whole Foods are NOT

superior? Are you saying organic foods in Whole Foods stores are NOT

superior to organic foods in Costco for example? Or are you saying

organic foods are not superior to conventionally grown foods. I

didn't know Costco had organic foods. I just go to Wild Oat stores

since I can find the biggest selection of organically grown foods. My

local grocery doesn't carry allot of organically grown foods. I'm not

sure what you are saying. Perhaps you are saying to grow it yourself?>>>

Hi Barb:

I'm sorry I wasn't clearer. What I tried to convey is I cannot understand

why customers are willing to pay so much more in Whole Foods for

" non-organic-commercially grown produce " . For example my Whole Foods has

about 1/2 produce that is not organic but cost 2-3 times as much as a

regular grocery store and I see the customers purchasing these all the time.

The ones I've ask " think " because the produce is sold by Whole Foods it must

be superior to a conventional grocery store. That's not true!

Then the salad bars in Whole Foods (I can't speak of Wild Oat stores because

there is not one locally). People assume the vegetables are organic--they

are not. Same for their deli sections and their hot prepared foods. Not

organic. So buyer be aware, assume nothing and ask questions when in doubt

and don't assume " natural " means organic.

Lol I was making my own fertilizer last year and asked the produce manager

for his rotten fruit (needed them for my fertilizer). He said their chefs

get the produce that can't be sold or is beginning to perish. They cook

that and sell to customers. They are not perfect!

Don't misunderstand me; I'm thankful I have Whole Foods but I've learned not

to assume just because it's stocked in there that is it healthier than a

regular store. We have to know what we are buying, read the labels, ask the

right questions. Their natural chicken is hormone and antibiotic free;

however so is Costco's for 2/3 less. Meat is another subject and so full of

hidden secrets. Oft it can be called antibiotic and hormone free if the

animal has been of these during its last 90 days...much to this subject. I

can buy a can of sardines for $2.99 in there, or 50cents for a can of clean

water packed Bumble Bee sardines elsewhere. Why spend more money than

necessary. My 99cents store has organic things; same brand as Whole Food,

but 99cents. Duck--I wanted some duck fat to make salves and had to find an

organic duck. Well, I found an organic one at Whole Foods--$6.99/lb which I

wouldn't pay. Wrote down the name of the farm. Called them and asked for

any other retail outlets. They told me a Chinese Grocery store has them.

Drove over there and the same duck was $1.49/lb. Same applies to their

seafood. All I'm saying if we have unlimited funds, want to shop in only

one store Whole Foods is good but if we have to watch our pennies then it

pays to shop around like I do.

Unfortunately concerning comparing organic foods to organic foods at

different stores such as the frozen certified organic produce I purchase at

Costco verses the frozen organic food at Whole Foods? I see no difference

really in my opinion. And will rather buy from Costco and save several

dollars a bag.

With fresh produce we all know that produce will begin to loose nutrients as

soon as they are picked whether organic or not. The best is of course

self-picked from an organic farm or our backyard and eaten same day. Let's

say store A has a section of organic produce that is wilted and beginning to

get moldy and store B has the same but crisp and fresh. I wouldn't purchase

the wilted and slightly moldy produce. However what happens to the produce

that is in the back storage area sitting in water to keep it fresh? Will it

loose nutrients that way also?

In my town there is only one certified organic farmer. Most of the organic

produce is trucked in and most of the stores selling the og produce will

have the same suppliers. Difference will be in storage and handling of the

produce and each store has different prices. Even my co-ops are buying from

the same companies that Whole Foods uses at much reduced cost.

So in answer to your question from what I know about our local operations, I

would not think there is a difference in the quality of the organic produce

from one store to another if the produce is still fresh.

I shop in retail stores, I frequent 3 organic farmer's markets, belong to

one organic produce co-op and another co-op plus have several of my own

co-ops that I manage. I purchase some products online; I buy my organic

grass fed beef from a rancher in N. Texas who delivers every 3 months; his

organic grass fed beef costs less than Whole Food or other stores selling

" natural " beef. Grass fed beef is superior to organic since it has higher

levels of Omega 3's rather than the Omega 6 in grain fed animals and the

Omega 6 are pro-inflammatory and the Omega 3's reduce inflammation which is

something we all have with mold induced illness.

Lol enough of my soapbox. I hope I answered your questions.

Rosie

[] Re: Top 12 Produce to Avoid due to Pesticides

Rosie, ..so you think organic foods in stores like Whole Foods are NOT

superior? Are you saying organic foods in Whole Foods stores are NOT

superior to organic foods in Costco for example? Or are you saying

organic foods are not superior to conventionally grown foods. I

didn't know Costco had organic foods. I just go to Wild Oat stores

since I can find the biggest selection of organically grown foods. My

local grocery doesn't carry alot of organically grown foods. I'm not

sure what you are saying. Perhaps you are saying to grow it yourself?

>

> What saddens me is to see so many customers in health food stores

such as

> Whole Foods paying 2-3x more for commercial products thinking

because the

> products are in that store they must be superior to a regular

grocery store.

>

> Rosie

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