Re: I have collectors dolls and how can I clean

[Guest guest]

Rhonda

I leave dishes . enough to eat with, right in the strainer all the time

as I dont like the smell in my cupboards. Wicker is tough. I collected baskets

and had to get rid of all of them as I could see mold in the weave. Im so

sorry your doing this. I got sick at work in a government building, then went

through three moldy apartments. God Bless

Janet

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I SO feel for you, and what you are going through. I just wanted to

say that, and I can completely relate to the intensity of the

experience. I'm glad you found this group. It's a great resource.

Please be very, very careful while you're doing this work. Wear

personal protection: a full-on mask with respirator, not one of

those inexpensive cloth ones, gloves, goggles, etc.

I initially tried to clean everything in my house, but either I

became incredibly sensitive or the mold toxins became so much

stronger (probably both), and I finally had to give up, sell my

house, and put everything in storage, while I hotel hopped to try to

stop reacting. I literally thought I was going to die.

It almost seems like a better idea to be extremely conservative and

cautious at first, rather than the other way around, like most

people do. Put some of the questionnable stuff in storage to deal

with later, if that is an option for you. But make sure you have a

safe place to sleep. Don't wear contaminated clothing into it.

Shower before you go to bed,etc.

I like hearing stories about remediators who kick people out of

their houses with only the clothes on their backs, while they clean

the items one by one in their little white suits. I think that's

the way it should be done, although I'm not familiar with your

unique situation, and who can afford that without insurance kicking

in.

In my own experience (Stachy/Asper) I've found I was unable to clean

anything porous (clothing/linens/bedding, baskets, wicker), anything

with a motor or a fan (including blow dryer, computer, portable

heater), and I'm fairly certain I can't clean plastics either. This

may be more mycotoxin related.

Best of luck to you.

Jules

--- In , " Rhonda " <rhondaleokitty@...>

wrote:

>

> The hepa vac sucks too hard to try to vac their clothes and then

the

> hair would surely mess up if not suck off. I already tried

washing a

> small cowboy hat and ruined it and should have hand washed with

> vinegar. What was I thinking. I guess I can use water to wipe of

the

> porcelin parts. I don't have $$ to find a professional doll

cleaning

> service b/c I think they have those. There is just too many things

to

> clean!! On second thought, I'm not trashing my wicker chairs. It's

> crazy to throw away good things and I already have gotten rid of a

> lot of things. I can't even remember for sure what all I wiped

down

> and haven't but won't hurt to keep wiping forever but I need to

get

> the places I haven't yet. I also have books. Are they

contaminated

> on each page or just on outside and around the rim of book? I

tossed

> a lot of magazines that had recipes in them I've had forever.

Wanted

> to keep them too. I guess inside my kitchen cabinets are

> contaminated too and some of my dishes don't get used or used

much.

> Guess I've been putting food on plates of mycotoxins. They

are/were

> everywhere anyhow...This can take a long time esp. b/c I have to

work

> and that takes up so much time.

>

> I made it thru last night and do not have that feeling right now.

In

> 70's today and tomorrow only 40 and then only 30 in day. We have

had

> the strangest weather around here going back and forth all

> fall/winter.

>

> If I just cover my car seats, will that be good enough b/c it

might

> be summer before I can vac that car out. Wish somebody would do

that

> for me!!

>

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I SO feel for you, and what you are going through. I just wanted to

say that, and I can completely relate to the intensity of the

experience. I'm glad you found this group. It's a great resource.

Please be very, very careful while you're doing this work. Wear

personal protection: a full-on mask with respirator, not one of

those inexpensive cloth ones, gloves, goggles, etc.

I initially tried to clean everything in my house, but either I

became incredibly sensitive or the mold toxins became so much

stronger (probably both), and I finally had to give up, sell my

house, and put everything in storage, while I hotel hopped to try to

stop reacting. I literally thought I was going to die.

It almost seems like a better idea to be extremely conservative and

cautious at first, rather than the other way around, like most

people do. Put some of the questionnable stuff in storage to deal

with later, if that is an option for you. But make sure you have a

safe place to sleep. Don't wear contaminated clothing into it.

Shower before you go to bed,etc.

I like hearing stories about remediators who kick people out of

their houses with only the clothes on their backs, while they clean

the items one by one in their little white suits. I think that's

the way it should be done, although I'm not familiar with your

unique situation, and who can afford that without insurance kicking

in.

In my own experience (Stachy/Asper) I've found I was unable to clean

anything porous (clothing/linens/bedding, baskets, wicker), anything

with a motor or a fan (including blow dryer, computer, portable

heater), and I'm fairly certain I can't clean plastics either. This

may be more mycotoxin related.

Best of luck to you.

Jules

--- In , " Rhonda " <rhondaleokitty@...>

wrote:

>

> The hepa vac sucks too hard to try to vac their clothes and then

the

> hair would surely mess up if not suck off. I already tried

washing a

> small cowboy hat and ruined it and should have hand washed with

> vinegar. What was I thinking. I guess I can use water to wipe of

the

> porcelin parts. I don't have $$ to find a professional doll

cleaning

> service b/c I think they have those. There is just too many things

to

> clean!! On second thought, I'm not trashing my wicker chairs. It's

> crazy to throw away good things and I already have gotten rid of a

> lot of things. I can't even remember for sure what all I wiped

down

> and haven't but won't hurt to keep wiping forever but I need to

get

> the places I haven't yet. I also have books. Are they

contaminated

> on each page or just on outside and around the rim of book? I

tossed

> a lot of magazines that had recipes in them I've had forever.

Wanted

> to keep them too. I guess inside my kitchen cabinets are

> contaminated too and some of my dishes don't get used or used

much.

> Guess I've been putting food on plates of mycotoxins. They

are/were

> everywhere anyhow...This can take a long time esp. b/c I have to

work

> and that takes up so much time.

>

> I made it thru last night and do not have that feeling right now.

In

> 70's today and tomorrow only 40 and then only 30 in day. We have

had

> the strangest weather around here going back and forth all

> fall/winter.

>

> If I just cover my car seats, will that be good enough b/c it

might

> be summer before I can vac that car out. Wish somebody would do

that

> for me!!

>

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

" julesblucky " <julesblucky@...> wrote:

> I initially tried to clean everything in my house, but either I

> became incredibly sensitive or the mold toxins became so much

> stronger (probably both), and I finally had to give up, sell my

> house, and put everything in storage, while I hotel hopped to try

to stop reacting. I literally thought I was going to die.

>

" Intensification response " .

Amazing that just when you think you are taking positive steps

toward recovery, your sensitivity goes through the roof.

This is one of the peculiarities that leads people to believe they

are taking the wrong approach: " Moving out didn't work. I just got

worse. This is the wrong thing to do " .

It takes somebody who has been through it to explain that what

appears to be perfectly logical in addressing the mold can be

counterproductive, and that becoming more sensitive post exposure

isn't a sign of getting worse.

It's a normal consequence of detoxification.

I agree on the difficulty or impossibility of remediating some items.

Too painful and dangerous to try. Better to put it in storage

where, over time, they just might denature as I have seen in a few

cases.

-

[Guest guest]

Ginger I also had a doll collection most come from the Bradford exchange also I

love gone with the wind I own many things from that and different type plates

also Elvis M. Monroe my list goes on stamp collection of Princess sign

sport balls and cards old handbags some with stones in them. I can go on I had

to get ride of all the dolls comic books from 1950 and art work football sign by

Don himself the Miami Team sad thing is I also had his wife to sign it gone I

lost much of my things doing the eviction. the first water bed the wood was

heart breaking to loose that I wanted my Grandkids to have these things Hess

Trucks from 1994 all had to go they made the kids ILL when I lived at the Tennis

Club 2. one grandson had Asthma when he was born the other got it from my place

I could never understand that when the mothers told me each time the kids come

to me they had to seek medical help I learn what mold was after the fact when my

tong had what looked like a mountain on it and my food tasted bad I do

understand.

Elvira

Re: [] I have collectors dolls and how can I clean

Rhonda

I leave dishes . enough to eat with, right in the strainer all the time

as I dont like the smell in my cupboards. Wicker is tough. I collected baskets

and had to get rid of all of them as I could see mold in the weave. Im so

sorry your doing this. I got sick at work in a government building, then went

through three moldy apartments. God Bless

Janet

[Guest guest]

With your recipes why not copy them or seal them in plastic laminate?

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Rhonda wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:55:04 -0000

> From: Rhonda <rhondaleokitty@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] I have collectors dolls and how can I clean

>

> The hepa vac sucks too hard to try to vac their clothes and then the

> hair would surely mess up if not suck off. I already tried washing a

> small cowboy hat and ruined it and should have hand washed with

> vinegar. What was I thinking. I guess I can use water to wipe of the

> porcelin parts. I don't have $$ to find a professional doll cleaning

> service b/c I think they have those. There is just too many things to

> clean!! On second thought, I'm not trashing my wicker chairs. It's

> crazy to throw away good things and I already have gotten rid of a

> lot of things. I can't even remember for sure what all I wiped down

> and haven't but won't hurt to keep wiping forever but I need to get

> the places I haven't yet. I also have books. Are they contaminated

> on each page or just on outside and around the rim of book? I tossed

> a lot of magazines that had recipes in them I've had forever. Wanted

> to keep them too. I guess inside my kitchen cabinets are

> contaminated too and some of my dishes don't get used or used much.

> Guess I've been putting food on plates of mycotoxins. They are/were

> everywhere anyhow...This can take a long time esp. b/c I have to work

> and that takes up so much time.

>

> I made it thru last night and do not have that feeling right now. In

> 70's today and tomorrow only 40 and then only 30 in day. We have had

> the strangest weather around here going back and forth all

> fall/winter.

>

> If I just cover my car seats, will that be good enough b/c it might

> be summer before I can vac that car out. Wish somebody would do that

> for me!!

>

> Rhonda

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Being a proffesional restorer, this is an instance were the soap-

vulpex that I keep telling you about would work- it is a specialty

soap that could clean these dolls very well-

-- In , " Rhonda " <rhondaleokitty@...>

wrote:

>

> The hepa vac sucks too hard to try to vac their clothes and then

the

> hair would surely mess up if not suck off. I already tried

washing a

> small cowboy hat and ruined it and should have hand washed with

> vinegar. What was I thinking. I guess I can use water to wipe of

the

> porcelin parts. I don't have $$ to find a professional doll

cleaning

> service b/c I think they have those. There is just too many things

to

> clean!! On second thought, I'm not trashing my wicker chairs. It's

> crazy to throw away good things and I already have gotten rid of a

> lot of things. I can't even remember for sure what all I wiped

down

> and haven't but won't hurt to keep wiping forever but I need to

get

> the places I haven't yet. I also have books. Are they

contaminated

> on each page or just on outside and around the rim of book? I

tossed

> a lot of magazines that had recipes in them I've had forever.

Wanted

> to keep them too. I guess inside my kitchen cabinets are

> contaminated too and some of my dishes don't get used or used

much.

> Guess I've been putting food on plates of mycotoxins. They

are/were

> everywhere anyhow...This can take a long time esp. b/c I have to

work

> and that takes up so much time.

>

> I made it thru last night and do not have that feeling right now.

In

> 70's today and tomorrow only 40 and then only 30 in day. We have

had

> the strangest weather around here going back and forth all

> fall/winter.

>

> If I just cover my car seats, will that be good enough b/c it

might

> be summer before I can vac that car out. Wish somebody would do

that

> for me!!

>

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

I'm hoping at least my house is a little less toxic after all this

work. I know I have spread toxins all over but washing the clothes

I hope helped them not to be covered in millions of toxins. 12

years of this crap too. I have my bedroom closet done and drawers

but still have some other things in that room to figure out. I

dread the other bedroom closet too!!! I have got rid of a lot of

things and still my closet is packed. I didn't use a respirator so

who knows what else I've done to myself etc. I did wear a mask for

the most part. Not feeling so great tho and we are having barometer

changes bigtime here and that affects me very badly.

I cleaned all weekend what I could and felt like I was hit by a

truck this morning and couldn't get out of bed til noon. Trying to

clean more clothes etc. Think I may give some of this hay away to a

resuce. I warned her but I don't think she understands but bunny

resuces know about mycotoxins. Not sure what I'll do. I think my

house is contaminated more than they hays and get them from places

that grow hays for bunnies so they are extra careful but still I

know.....but better than some feed store mess.

There are people actually asking me do I feel better or how

long.....like I suppose to bounce back after 12 years of poisoning.

I hope I can get out of bed tomorrow. The barometer thing just

kills me and something different going on since remediation/air

scrubbers too that made matters worse. That mold remediation

company ought to know if I have brain damage already and who knows

what else, that not good for me to be in house with air scrubbers.

Geez, it only tood a couple minutes and I was dizzy and felt bizzare

and swelled up in face. I wish now he didn't offer the air

scrubbers at all b/c just messed me up bigtime and wonder if it

really sucked any sticky mycotoxins up. Going to clean some more

and tired of it too. No word yet from my neuro one way or the

other......

Now I lost my teeth retainer and think a vac sucked it up and had

fell on floor. Another bill, dentist, b/c my teeth move in front if

I don't wear a retainer and been a month and already moving. Not

sure how to afford a dentist visit and retainer. Does it ever end.

If anything else happens, I think I may crack if I already

haven't......

Rhonda

> >

> > The hepa vac sucks too hard to try to vac their clothes and then

> the

> > hair would surely mess up if not suck off. I already tried

> washing a

> > small cowboy hat and ruined it and should have hand washed with

> > vinegar. What was I thinking. I guess I can use water to wipe

of

> the

> > porcelin parts. I don't have $$ to find a professional doll

> cleaning

> > service b/c I think they have those. There is just too many

things

> to

> > clean!! On second thought, I'm not trashing my wicker chairs.

It's

> > crazy to throw away good things and I already have gotten rid of

a

> > lot of things. I can't even remember for sure what all I wiped

> down

> > and haven't but won't hurt to keep wiping forever but I need to

> get

> > the places I haven't yet. I also have books. Are they

> contaminated

> > on each page or just on outside and around the rim of book? I

> tossed

> > a lot of magazines that had recipes in them I've had forever.

> Wanted

> > to keep them too. I guess inside my kitchen cabinets are

> > contaminated too and some of my dishes don't get used or used

> much.

> > Guess I've been putting food on plates of mycotoxins. They

> are/were

> > everywhere anyhow...This can take a long time esp. b/c I have to

> work

> > and that takes up so much time.

> >

> > I made it thru last night and do not have that feeling right

now.

> In

> > 70's today and tomorrow only 40 and then only 30 in day. We

have

> had

> > the strangest weather around here going back and forth all

> > fall/winter.

> >

> > If I just cover my car seats, will that be good enough b/c it

> might

> > be summer before I can vac that car out. Wish somebody would do

> that

> > for me!!

> >

> > Rhonda

> >

>