Re: Serena out there?

[Guest guest]

She left the group.I think in Jan.Taking a break I guess.

--- In , " carondeen " <kdeanstudios@...>

wrote:

>

> Having gotten used to Serena posts- are you OK kid? Did I

miss

> her saying she is on vacation- or just taking a break from the

> computer- heh-your allowed- just get worried when I don't hear from

> some-one

>

>

[Guest guest]

" tigerpaw2c " wrote:

> She left the group.I think in Jan.Taking a break I guess.

>

You're too kind for not saying that Serena isn't taking a break

from our constant " differences " of opinion.

Our last issue of contention before Serena left the group was my

contradiction of Serena's assertion for the necessity of responsible

medical testing, and my promotion of the " You can do it yourself

without medical help (if you must) " concept.

I know it sounds incredibly rude of me to make a disparaging sort

of remark to compare someones analytical process to doctors, but it

is exactly this type of mental obstacle that stands in the way of

people trusting themselves to make observations of mold reactivity,

test the response, and construct an appropriate strategy based upon

the results of their own exposure testing.

If you don't have access to a " helpful " medical professional but

have the concept of " self testing " explained to you, it is possible

to make your own decisions based upon your own specific level of

Personal Impact Rating without any further help or confusion.

You can become your own " lab experiment " !

In fact, it's the best way to take charge of your own destiny and

proceed with confidence based on input from someone you can really

trust: Yourself.

At this point, I do not have the view that doctors who are trying

to emulate Dr Shoemaker's protocols can speak to the necessity of

avoidance with the confidence required to pursuade mold victims to

evacuate their contaminated houses correctly.

I felt that despite the unpleasantness of debating those who

honestly believe they are giving the best advice to obtain medical

testing upon which to base their actions - this is important

information for people who can't get access to a " Dr Shoemaker " type

doctor, but desperately need to act with determination and speed.

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Serena wrote:

These people aren't your personal little lab rats,

. " Specificalize " on your own time, man. <

Yes, I DID just happily skip over the " actual, responsible medical

testing " part.

And VERY happily so, because the " experts " are flat out wrong

regarding the circumstances and consequences of mycotoxin exposure.

Their approach is misguided and arises from a false premise which

they failed to re-check. (Yes, I used to subscribe to The

Objectivist Newsletter and read Ayn Rand and iel Branden too)

The entire thrust of your analytical process indicates that you

share their fundamental misunderstandings and limitations.

For example, when you stated the necessity and importance of

medical testing, my thought was to ask why someone would accept the

validity of such results over their own perceptions?

I tested my own response, treated it as valid - despite all

assertions to the contrary, and I believe that my situation is now

supprted by the science that Dr Shoemakers developed to measure the

experience of those who have duplicated my circumstances.

I find medical testing to be completely unnecessary to arrive at an

understanding of this reactivity. Especially when such testing can

be self conducted with such ease.

Like it or not, we are exposed to mycotoxins every day, and my

level of reactivity allows me to witness a simultaneity of response

in others.

I know what they are responding to although they do not generally

know or admit it themselves because " You ain't the doctor " and " Who

do you think you are " interferes with their objective assessment of

the results of our non clinical - real world test situation.

They have indeed become my unwitting " lab rats " .

Your misplaced faith in medicine and rejection of the concept of

individualized perception has not stood you in good stead and is an

obstacle to taking better control of your illness.

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