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and Liz, thanks for that. It is very disappointing that Lord Hunt is saying that the Government has accepted the JM consultation report - I thought that was part of what the consultation period was about? So do we now flood Lord Hunt personally with letters protesting about this acceptance before the end of the consultation period and then continuing to argue for about title? , further advice please? Thanks, June

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My Philip Hunt letter (direct from him) is I think identical. But

sometimes although letters are bland and noncommittal the issues are

taken on board behind the scenes. So its worth keeping the momentum

going.

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From: " Houston " <annamhouston@...>

Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:23:45 +0100

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Subject: NMCHV

Here is my disappointing response in my post today from - Lord Hunt via my

local MP regarding the consultation process on the Nursing and Midwifery

Council

Houston

The Hon Soames

House of Commons

Dear

Thank you for your letter of 12 April enclosing one from Mrs Houston of

Florence Nightingale School of Nursing and Midwifery, King's College, about

the consultation document on establishing the new Nursing and Midwifery

Council.

I am grateful to Mrs Houston for expressing her views on the proposals as

they affect health visiting. With regard to the subject of health visiting

in general, the Government Strategy 'Saving Lives and Making a Difference',

recognises Health Visitors as key public health professionals with a crucial

role in the delivery of health improvement.

I hope that Mrs Houston will be reassured that the omission of Health

Visitor from the name of the new Council is no reflection of the importance

we attach to the increasingly complex role of health visiting and its

expansion into public health. We will of course give careful consideration

to Mrs Houston's comments before finally putting forward legislation for

Parliamentary approval.

Philip Hunt

Enclosed information Sheet came with this letter

Information Sheet

Health Visiting

The Government recognises the crucial role played by Health Visitors in the

delivery of health improvement.

The Government Strategy'Saving Lives and Making a Difference'includes a

comprehensive programme of action for developing the public health role of

health visitors through the 'Health Visiting and School Nursing Development

programme'. As part of this programme a number of new health visitor

appointments of leadership posts have been made to develop and demonstrate

the new roles. The posts demonstrate new ways of working more creatively

which focus on particular aspects of local needs, for example social

exclusion, supporting vulnerable families, teenage pregnancy, ethnic health

issues. Health visitors also featured among the Health Action Zone

fellowship awards; are directly involved in Sure Start programmes; in

Primary Care Beacons and in community development.

NMC Proposals

On 30 March the Government published plans for establishing a new regulatory

body, the Nursing and Midwifery Council, to replace the UKCC and the four

national boards. The consultation period was due to end on I June, but has

been extended to the end of the month.

The Government accepted the argument that midwifery regulation is a separate

case due to the statutory protection of its function and the achievement of

its professional standards through supervision. For this reason it has been

agreed to provide for a statutory Midwifery Committee. But it should be

noted that the new Council will be free to establish a Health Visiting

committee.

As they stand, the proposals contain several safeguards for Health Visiting.

Health Visitors will have a separate register, protection of their

professional title and be guaranteed equal representation on the Council

with nurses and midwives, and from each UK country. The new Council will

have a duty to have regard to the interests of each profession and it will

not be able to decide matters solely affecting one profession against the

wishes of members who are practitioners of that profession. The safeguard of

professional regulation for health visitors is therefore fully preserved.

But we have accepted the recommendation of JM Consulting's independent

report that the new body should be called the Nursing and Midwifery Council

to reflect the professions it must cover and to keep the name brief and

easily recognisable for the public.

The new Council will certainly be concerned with the regulation of health

visitors and there will be ample scope to address specific issues about

their education, training and clinical practice.

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Yes, June, I do think we all need to write again to our MPs: we probably

need a 'Mayday phase 2' now the election is over; just to remind MPs who

forgot in the 'heat of the chase' that this very important issue

is still very important. What is interesting about Lord Hunt's letter

(identikit, I note!) is that he has focused on trying to reassure health

visitors that they are valued. Well, I think our staffing levels

and stress levels might speak for how much they are valued, but that is

not the point here. Excuse me whilst I shout:

THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE PUBLIC FROM INCOMPETENCE AND MISCONDUCT

THIS IS ABOUT MAINTAINING STANDARDS OF THE HEALTH VISITING PROFESSION

THIS IS ABOUT RECOGNISING THAT HEALTH VISITING IS A PROFESSION IN STATUTE,

AND NEEDS REGULATING AS SUCH.

We do need a 'phase 2' of the campaign, and we must turn around the professional

associations, because they are the ones that are briefing the government

and that should have made clear to them that health visitors will not accept

being regulated by a different profession, now or in the future.

We need to convince our colleagues, so they call all the professional associations

to book about this. Best wishes

junet579@... wrote:

and

Liz, thanks for that. It is very disappointing that Lord Hunt is

saying that the Government

has accepted the JM consultation report - I

thought that was part of

what the consultation period was about? So do we now

flood Lord Hunt personally

with letters protesting about this acceptance

before the end of the consultation

period and then continuing to argue for

about title? , further

advice please? Thanks, June

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Thanks . I'm sure we all feel you are entitled to shout in the circumstances. In the Thatcher years some of us went on a march with the HVA/TUC to save the NHS - perhaps now we'll have to do the same specifically for health visiting! How ironic that the CPHVA would not now be involved. I quite fancy demonstrating outside Parliament in my cardigan anyway. ('Hunt, Hunt, Hunt, Out, Out, Out" or similar)? and Frances, have you got your banners ready? - I'm sure Mike could do a splendid one! (Sorry folks, I feel in need of a bit of light relief before getting down to business again) June

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Well we could encourage a demonstration again! cardigans unite or was it

twin set and pearls? - I think they are back in fashion again.

In message <11e.6c0778.285e6975@...>, junet579@... writes

>Thanks . I'm sure we all feel you are entitled to shout in the

>circumstances. In the Thatcher years some of us went on a march with the

>HVA/TUC to save the NHS - perhaps now we'll have to do the same specifically

>for health visiting! How ironic that the CPHVA would not now be involved. I

>quite fancy demonstrating outside Parliament in my cardigan anyway. ('Hunt,

>Hunt, Hunt, Out, Out, Out " or similar)? and Frances, have you got your

>banners ready? - I'm sure Mike could do a splendid one! (Sorry folks, I

>feel in need of a bit of light relief before getting down to business again)

>June

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Dear ,

I for one would much appreciate a really succint 'phase 2' letter with

which to persuade my colleagues to function on.

Regards,

Ruth Grant

Cowley wrote:

Yes, June, I do think we all need to write again

to our MPs: we probably need a 'Mayday phase 2' now the election

is over; just to remind MPs who forgot in the 'heat of the chase' that

this very important issue is still very important. What is

interesting about Lord Hunt's letter (identikit, I note!) is that he has

focused on trying to reassure health visitors that they are valued.

Well, I think our staffing levels and stress levels might speak for how

much they are valued, but that is not the point here. Excuse me whilst

I shout:

THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE PUBLIC FROM INCOMPETENCE AND MISCONDUCT

THIS IS ABOUT MAINTAINING STANDARDS OF THE HEALTH VISITING PROFESSION

THIS IS ABOUT RECOGNISING THAT HEALTH VISITING IS A PROFESSION IN STATUTE,

AND NEEDS REGULATING AS SUCH.

We do need a 'phase 2' of the campaign, and we must turn around the professional

associations, because they are the ones that are briefing the government

and that should have made clear to them that health visitors will not accept

being regulated by a different profession, now or in the future.

We need to convince our colleagues, so they call all the professional associations

to book about this. Best wishes

junet579@... wrote:

and

Liz, thanks for that. It is very disappointing that Lord Hunt is

saying that the Government

has accepted the JM consultation report - I

thought that was part of

what the consultation period was about? So do we now

flood Lord Hunt personally

with letters protesting about this acceptance

before the end of the consultation

period and then continuing to argue for

about title? , further

advice please? Thanks, June

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Dear June,

I remember demonstrating at the Elephant and Castle (DHSS) in 1971 -

am a dab hand at banners now as my daughter was national chair of hunt

sabs only a few years ago.

Ruth Grant

junet579@... wrote:

Thanks

. I'm sure we all feel you are entitled to shout in the

circumstances. In the Thatcher

years some of us went on a march with the

HVA/TUC to save the NHS

- perhaps now we'll have to do the same specifically

for health visiting!

How ironic that the CPHVA would not now be involved. I

quite fancy demonstrating

outside Parliament in my cardigan anyway. ('Hunt,

Hunt, Hunt, Out, Out, Out"

or similar)? and Frances, have you got your

banners ready? - I'm

sure Mike could do a splendid one! (Sorry folks, I

feel in need of a bit of

light relief before getting down to business again)

June

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