Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hi, I'm new to this group too, and I prefer all natural things. Is there anything natural that can be added to lotions to help accomplish: 1. Extending the time of the fragrance on the person. 2. Extending the time of the fragrance in the bottle or jar. 3. Stop the discoloration and also stop it from going rancid. 4. Hold a fragrance at its formula longer to delay the high notes leaving and low notes dominating. I know you can achieve this with chemicals and synthetics. I'm just wondering if anyone uses natural products to accomplish any of the above. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 At 01:02 AM 1/24/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'm new to this group too, and I prefer all natural things. > >Is there anything natural that can be added to lotions to help >accomplish: More experienced toiletries folk may chime in, but here's my experience, working with cosmetic chemists on private lines for hotels: >1. Extending the time of the fragrance on the person. That all is dependent on the base notes -- vetiver, patchouli, etc. >2. Extending the time of the fragrance in the bottle or jar. The oils themselves will eventually fade. This is inevitable. Just make sure as fresh a product as possible is on the shelves. >3. Stop the discoloration and also stop it from going rancid. Discoloration? At the time of blending? Or do you mean after it has sit on a shelf? Discoloration from vanilla, for instance, is unavoidable. Rancidity is a matter of the oils you choose, the airtight quality of the packaging, keeping it away from heat and light, and preservatives. >4. Hold a fragrance at its formula longer to delay the high notes >leaving and low notes dominating. That is a question of good blending. You need to age your blend and test it before committing to a final product. A good extender of high notes, btw, is using a lot of aldehydic citrus oils, if that is the type scent you are blending. Arctander and other professional books discuss this. >I know you can achieve this with chemicals and synthetics. I'm just >wondering if anyone uses natural products to accomplish any of the >above. Naturals are chemicals, just not synthetics. In other words, all naturals are chemicals, but not all chemicals are naturals. You just have to learn the tricks of the trade, and the specifics of your blends and carrier lotions, balms, etc. Some carriers " lock up " scent, that's for sure. You have to experiment. Perfumery is challenging, there is no doubt about it, whether using natural or synthetic chemicals, so don't think synthetics are the answer, they have their problems too. Anya http://.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume / Join to study natural perfumery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 At 01:02 AM 1/24/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'm new to this group too, and I prefer all natural things. > >Is there anything natural that can be added to lotions to help >accomplish: More experienced toiletries folk may chime in, but here's my experience, working with cosmetic chemists on private lines for hotels: >1. Extending the time of the fragrance on the person. That all is dependent on the base notes -- vetiver, patchouli, etc. >2. Extending the time of the fragrance in the bottle or jar. The oils themselves will eventually fade. This is inevitable. Just make sure as fresh a product as possible is on the shelves. >3. Stop the discoloration and also stop it from going rancid. Discoloration? At the time of blending? Or do you mean after it has sit on a shelf? Discoloration from vanilla, for instance, is unavoidable. Rancidity is a matter of the oils you choose, the airtight quality of the packaging, keeping it away from heat and light, and preservatives. >4. Hold a fragrance at its formula longer to delay the high notes >leaving and low notes dominating. That is a question of good blending. You need to age your blend and test it before committing to a final product. A good extender of high notes, btw, is using a lot of aldehydic citrus oils, if that is the type scent you are blending. Arctander and other professional books discuss this. >I know you can achieve this with chemicals and synthetics. I'm just >wondering if anyone uses natural products to accomplish any of the >above. Naturals are chemicals, just not synthetics. In other words, all naturals are chemicals, but not all chemicals are naturals. You just have to learn the tricks of the trade, and the specifics of your blends and carrier lotions, balms, etc. Some carriers " lock up " scent, that's for sure. You have to experiment. Perfumery is challenging, there is no doubt about it, whether using natural or synthetic chemicals, so don't think synthetics are the answer, they have their problems too. Anya http://.com The premier site on the Web to discover the beauty of Natural Perfume / Join to study natural perfumery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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