Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

January 4, 2004

Wow, it sounds like your going through a rough patch.

I am wondering how old your daughter is? My son is 11 years old with

PDD-NOS. Before the dx, it was rough. I would read all parenting

books and nothing seemed to work. My first attempts at positive

interventions plans failed miserably. Everything else I tried seemed

to cause more problems, so back to the positive intervention plan I

went.

It takes time for Postive Behavior Plan to work. Sometimes you have

get the right mix of all those therapies to get the right balance. I

know that I often get so focused on today's challenge, I forget to

look to see how far we have come. We still have our crisises, but

now they all seem be in the school environment. In the beginning, I

discovered I could only work at changing one behavior at time and I

was overwhelmed with all the undesirable behaviors I wanted to

change.

Just like we all are working something to improve our daily lives.

Your daughter is going to have issues that she is going to have to

work on, too. Hers will just be more obvious.

Personally, I have a harder time dealing with sensory overload. It

seems to take me forever to connect the sensory issue with the

behavior. Now that he is getting older and his communcations skills

are improving, I can get him to tell me what the sensory issue is.

Most of the time, I can figure out how to help him cope and other

times at a lost.

Sorry that I don't have a better solution for you. It sounds like

you have quite a handful on your hands. At least, it is never dull.

I wish you best of luck on figuring out what will work and hope that

you will get restful patch soon.

> I hate to be a complainer...here only the 4th day of the new

year...but...does anyone have any ideas for self control/impulse

control issues besides positive behavior management, vitamins

supplements, dietary intervention, or drugs? We've tried all of

these, but I am not hopeful of their long-term effects! Has anyone

ever set up an individual " program " with success? When I asked both

the Regional Center here in CA, and the school for ideas about

impulse control they didn't have many more suggestions. There's

just got to be something more. My husband thinks our daughter would

do good in a " Truman Show " type of setting...setting up situation

after situation with camera monitors so she can't hurt herself, but

somehow letting her learn about natural consequences...over and over

and over and over again.

>

> We finally got the school to do an ABA assessment this year for

our daughter, but haven't seen the results yet. Although we've had

a behavioral specialist come into our lives to teach us about

positive behavior management, anticedents, rewards, etc., we've not

used ABA in a school setting. I've heard some people say (our

inclusion specialist for one) that ABA sometimes is difficult to use

in the natural setting, and won't " transfer over " into " real life " .

I don't know if ABA could even work on impulse control.

>

> As far as Positive Behavior management, it doesn't seem to

completely eliminate our daughter's compulsive behavior...she may

stop one behavior, but then is off to another. Her development of

language has helped her communicate considerably but there is

consistently a return to compulsive behaviors...either related to

sensory issues, over stimulation, excitement, nervousness or

physically hurting (ear aches, gas pains, etc).

>

> Without constant supervision, she will be emptying tubes of

medicine, pouring out milk, dumping cheerios, stuffing the cat down

her pants, putting her hands in the food in the refrigerator (now

locked), running the water down the drain for hours on end, flushing

stuff down the toilet (last night she tried to flush down her

shirt). She's busy all the time.

>

> My husband says " is there any kind of work we can get her? Any

full time employment? " She could train people how to keep busy. I

have thought about renting her out as a fitness program. Need to

loose weight?...come to my house...chase Tammy up and down the

stairs!

>

> We're pooped...can't wait until Monday when school starts up

again...(that is if all goes well there...I hope, I hope, I hope)...

>

> My husband took off 2 weeks to try to get stuff done here at the

house....he's sooooo ready to be back at work!

>

> But...wait...what do I hear? THE KID IS ASLEEP! HURRAH!

>

> Now I guess I can start worrying about the older kids...like that

19 year old daughter that is not back home yet! hum! Can we discuss

siblings on this list? I got another behavior problem with my

middle daughter...who knew that kids could get you coming and going!

>

> bj

January 4, 2004

Here's my theory, now, I'm not saying this will not be hard or that this will be supported by our group LOL, but it works with CB who is a very busy person too. I raised two average kids with this and so what else would I do but apply this to an undiagnosed autistic ( at the time ) The answer is YES ! Yes you may touch the ________, Granny supervises the touching , playing with. Medicine bottles are emptied and washed, by a bottle of cheap dish soap leave on counter for squeezing into sink (CB's Favorite thing at the time ) Toilet flushing..play rocket ship.... the point being take the attention getting no out of the action. He works all the DVD,VCR,computer, camcorder, with adult like function now (he's 6 ) I don't have too many areas in the house that need my total supervision. The front yard fence we are working on. You want to go get that toy car....let granny help you, the fall from the fence will hurt ! Pretty soon... they get uninterested, because they CAN.

CB's Granny

ps. Buy a huge pilates ball....its working like a dream for pressure and aggression, under inflate slightly. He bounces , uses it as a chair ,does Pilates (LOL )ie." His exercises" If its kicked hard doesnt cause any damage. And they are cheaper than therapy balls.

January 4, 2004

ps. Even an average child cannot control impulses until the age of 6 or later. Oh, and if Granny could , she'd chase Tammy and play I'M GONNA GET YOU...its sorta like tag but with tickles at the end. One of my resolutions was to loose weight LOL !

CB's Granny

January 4, 2004

Hi,

first of all, I would have her stay where you are...not allow her to go off by herself. Instead of chasing her, she would benefit from learning to stay where other people are for socialization-I don't know how she is at school or how old she is, but learning to stay with other people in a space is an important skill. I would set up an activity for her and let her try different things over time to see what she likes(you would have to sit with her and guide her through it). I would try: playdoh sets where she can learn to make something-playdoh hair grow or fake food(of course you would have to keep her from eating it). Maybe duplos (teach her to build). Shaving cream to fingerpaint on a tabletop is often fun.

She needs some play skills to replace the negative behaviors, and she also needs to stay with the family so you don't end up just chasing her around-it's exhausting for you and doesn't teach her anything for her to run all over and get into things. I know this is really hard because I babysit a child like this(his big thing is eating all kinds of things so you have to watch him constantly-he will eat dangerous substances and is a houdini at getting out).

I would explain it to her, and then just keep her in the area(s) you want her to be in and have things for her to do. If she tries to run out, just keep returning her to the room.

It sounds like you really need someone to help so you can trade off monitoring her. It is exhausting to do that yourself. Is there a sympathetic teenage girl in your area you could hire for a couple hours a day to teach her play skills and give yourself a break?

I personally believe in timeouts for some kids or some other kind of consequence-if she makes a mess, I would have her clean it up, and the area around it(overcorrection). That did a lot to change some of my own child's habits.

You will have to be really consistent in whatever you decide to do-and I wouldn't completely rule out meds. Sometimes OCD can be lessened on one drug when not on another.

Good luck,

Sally

January 4, 2004

wow everyone's stories sound so familiar. There must be something we can all do. I had some success with VBA and FGF/HGF but it's still not over. He's been acting up a lot lately we narrowed part of it down to transfer factor and I'm going to test for yeast. I was also looking at ADAM Technology but am worried it's a scam.

January 5, 2004

How old is she? Lois

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complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

I hate to be a complainer...here only the 4th day of the new year...but...does anyone have any ideas for self control/impulse control issues besides positive behavior management, vitamins supplements, dietary intervention, or drugs? We've tried all of these, but I am not hopeful of their long-term effects! Has anyone ever set up an individual "program" with success? When I asked both the Regional Center here in CA, and the school for ideas about impulse control they didn't have many more suggestions. There's just got to be something more. My husband thinks our daughter would do good in a "Truman Show" type of setting...setting up situation after situation with camera monitors so she can't hurt herself, but somehow letting her learn about natural consequences...over and over and over and over again.

We finally got the school to do an ABA assessment this year for our daughter, but haven't seen the results yet. Although we've had a behavioral specialist come into our lives to teach us about positive behavior management, anticedents, rewards, etc., we've not used ABA in a school setting. I've heard some people say (our inclusion specialist for one) that ABA sometimes is difficult to use in the natural setting, and won't "transfer over" into "real life". I don't know if ABA could even work on impulse control.

As far as Positive Behavior management, it doesn't seem to completely eliminate our daughter's compulsive behavior...she may stop one behavior, but then is off to another. Her development of language has helped her communicate considerably but there is consistently a return to compulsive behaviors...either related to sensory issues, over stimulation, excitement, nervousness or physically hurting (ear aches, gas pains, etc).

Without constant supervision, she will be emptying tubes of medicine, pouring out milk, dumping cheerios, stuffing the cat down her pants, putting her hands in the food in the refrigerator (now locked), running the water down the drain for hours on end, flushing stuff down the toilet (last night she tried to flush down her shirt). She's busy all the time.

My husband says "is there any kind of work we can get her? Any full time employment?" She could train people how to keep busy. I have thought about renting her out as a fitness program. Need to loose weight?...come to my house...chase Tammy up and down the stairs!

We're pooped...can't wait until Monday when school starts up again...(that is if all goes well there...I hope, I hope, I hope)...

My husband took off 2 weeks to try to get stuff done here at the house....he's sooooo ready to be back at work!

But...wait...what do I hear? THE KID IS ASLEEP! HURRAH!

Now I guess I can start worrying about the older kids...like that 19 year old daughter that is not back home yet! hum! Can we discuss siblings on this list? I got another behavior problem with my middle daughter...who knew that kids could get you coming and going!

bj

January 5, 2004

She's 12. Her birthday is in April, so soon I will have an official teen. She has not yet begun her womanly cycles, but I wonder if some of this escalation is a result of her changing body. She's 95 pounds and 4'7", and I think most of it is around her tummy and her chest. Nothing like I was...skin and bones...99 pounds throughout highschool...and flat chested until I had kids.

bj (Tammy's mom)

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

How old is she? Lois

January 5, 2004

It could be related to puberty...it seems like a lot of kids have more problems at that time. Good luck, Sally

January 5, 2004

hi there

you have descibed my 13 year old boy almost to a 'T'. he was home from 6 month residential. (one month to go) and has not changed one iota. our day is filled with running after brady unless he gets into TV (choice of activity) or he presevers in an activity. running to the sink and dumping detergent. fridgerator and tries to get his own apple juice which ends up all over the floor. flushing stuff down the toilet or playing in it. spraying cleaning supplies, anti-perspirant all over everything. grabbing food off peoples plates at the table. stabbing his fork into my hand. destroying his new toys santa got him. grabbing toys/books out of others hands and then running off. getting angry and mean at the drop of a hat. he has this in your face behavior constantly. wants attention all the time. it is sooooo exhausting, but you know that. we have tried so many meds that have either back fired and caused the opposite effect or the side effects were so bad we could not wait for a theraputic effect. does that sound familiar?

he is at residential which he hates badly for 6 months. they say he has improved at school and they will send him home in feb. all well and good. but home life is still the same. it was our school district that desided after so many violent incidents to pay for this and give it a try. if he comes home and the same starts up at school again, don't know what we will do then. our hands i feel like are bound.

i love our son more then anything. but the peace this house has seen since he has been at residential is like a breath of fresh air. our 8 year old daughter has needed it. she is a victim in all of this. how she has escaped serious injury is beyond me. by the grace of God.

well just letting you know that you are not alone. we love the children but our emotional and physical bodies tire out. normal i would say.

please continue to post and tell us more.

Hugs - Christiane Mom to:

ph (24) add, bi-polar - serving our country , stationed in Germany.Brady (13) pdd-nos, adhd, Bi-Polar,very aggressive. residing for 6 months at a treatment centerLibby (8) adhd. now a 3rd grader. wanna be teen. YIKES.

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January 5, 2004

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Count your blessings with your good intuition. It is a scam.

Can you give me any specifics as to how you know it's a scam?

Thanks

January 5, 2004

What is ADAM technology?

Kathie

January 5, 2004

Have you been to a DAN Doctor?

In a message dated 1/5/2004 2:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, bjartworks@... writes:

Ok, I haven't heard about BVA, FGF/HGF, or transfer factor, but have done the test for yeast...and casein gluten free diet. Can you tell me about these other things you have mentioned? My dad has a "chi machine" that he wanted us to try too. Ever heard of one? We've also tried music therapy, OT, speech therapy, and recently tried to get a companion dog. The training was too long and strenuous and we were asked to leave because Tammy couldn't handle it. I think a dog would be good for her still, and may have one in the not-too-distant future.

I think what I'm going to do next is try to get a group of professionals to help me figure out a plan. Maybe if I set up something like an IEP meeting through our "Regional Center", and get a few heads together, someone could come up with something? Necessity is the mother of invention...and we do need to find some solutions.

Bj

January 5, 2004

> wow everyone's stories sound so familiar. There must be something

we can all

> do. I was also looking at ADAM Technology but am

> worried it's a scam.

>

Count your blessings with your good intuition. It is a scam.

January 5, 2004

Tammy's 12. I guess one thing we parents do is keep trying. We look forward to those few moments of sunshine, and grab at opportunities to be happy with miniscule successes. I do try to look back at our daughter's improvements, and there have been a great deal of them.

This morning was good...my daughter got to school and smiled from ear to ear...and...there were no aggressive behaviors. I was so worried that since she had been out of school for so long (vacation plus sickness made it almost a month and a half), that she would have problems from the get-go. I know the day's not over yet, but it was good hearing when I got to school that they are ready to try dealing with her again.

Right before Xmas break we had a serious incident...(at least I felt it was serious). The ABA specialist was observing and assessing during our daughter's "social" period, and the behavioral aide thought he could "handle" watching Tammy for a few minutes while she went to get something. During the 5 minutes when the aide left her side, Tammy took the opportunity to "dig" and "smear" on the table while typical peers were sitting with her. I pulled her out the following day after I found out the details, and there was talk of restructuring her "peer group" time...eliminating them from her program because of safety. This morning they are open to letting the kids try working with her again. This time, I put long legged leotards on her under her pants. Unless she disrobes completely, she will not be able to easily get where the sun don't shine. During the break, we also started putting on Desitin Ointment (incase there is external itching present), and panty liners on (to give her something to do with her hands while she sits...of course it won't hurt preparing her for her period either!)

I've had a couple hours of R and R this morning, and my brain is already trying to come up with more ideas.

Thanks for your post!

Bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

Wow, it sounds like your going through a rough patch.I am wondering how old your daughter is? My son is 11 years old with PDD-NOS. Before the dx, it was rough. I would read all parenting books and nothing seemed to work. My first attempts at positive interventions plans failed miserably. Everything else I tried seemed to cause more problems, so back to the positive intervention plan I went. It takes time for Postive Behavior Plan to work. Sometimes you have get the right mix of all those therapies to get the right balance. I know that I often get so focused on today's challenge, I forget to look to see how far we have come. We still have our crisises, but now they all seem be in the school environment. In the beginning, I discovered I could only work at changing one behavior at time and I was overwhelmed with all the undesirable behaviors I wanted to change.Just like we all are working something to improve our daily lives. Your daughter is going to have issues that she is going to have to work on, too. Hers will just be more obvious.Personally, I have a harder time dealing with sensory overload. It seems to take me forever to connect the sensory issue with the behavior. Now that he is getting older and his communcations skills are improving, I can get him to tell me what the sensory issue is. Most of the time, I can figure out how to help him cope and other times at a lost.Sorry that I don't have a better solution for you. It sounds like you have quite a handful on your hands. At least, it is never dull. I wish you best of luck on figuring out what will work and hope that you will get restful patch soon.

January 5, 2004

Tammy's 12. She pretty much doesn't get the chance to go off by herself. If she starts to run off, I'm still quick enough (at 47) to catch up, and try to get her to start over again...we practice by going back where she's started running from, I remind her to "walk", and to "tell me where you are going". We've had a couple visitors this past week, and both times, her first impulse was to run upstairs to brush her teeth, instead of greeting, and/or staying in the vicinity. When I tried to "block" her, and encourage her to stay in the room, her greetings (both times) was to try to kick her friends. After a few minutes she calmed down, and when we were able to get her engaged again (drawing, or sharing her kitten, or cooking), she was ok. When she knew that her friend was about ready to leave last night, she ran over to her and burped up her food on her friend's back. Her friend, Alysha is great...and so was her mom. They didn't make a fuss about it, just took it off, (as Tammy laughed and laughed), and then Alysha asked Tammy if she just wanted a hug instead. Tammy jumped and jumped, refused to hug her friend, but then hugged me, while I hugged Alysha.

I agree that she needs more "play skills", and am trying to find ways to get her interested in things. She knows how to play Nintendo, but refuses to do it when friends are over. She loves to draw, (colors and traces with pens), and paint (which we don't have as accessible), and her strength is cutting up veggies and helping with dinner. She used to love playdo, but now she craves the gluten, and will eat it. If she doesn't eat it, she spits in it or tries to put water in it to make it liquid. We've pretty much eliminated playdo. She used to use shaving cream here at home (especially in the tub), but we have discontinued it here, and let the school use it instead. Too much stimming makes her very unhappy, and at school, they bring in the other kids to play these sensory games with her. I have thought about getting a potters wheel, and trying to teach her to use clay. I think she would like the feeling. She has a love/hate relationship with sidewalk chalk, which she mushes and smears with water and rubs on the sidewalk. She will rub until her fingers are raw, will scream and scream afterwards...so we have to limit her time doing this activity...which in turn makes her angry...she doesn't have control!

I think I need to find some craft activity that she can do more independently (like chalk and pens), that involves paint. She makes lovely colored paintings (nothing figurative at all), and has painted hundreds of cardboard paintings. I need to do some work on my art studio so that she and I can work together on some projects. I think she's painted more paintings than I have in the past few years!

Bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

Hi,

first of all, I would have her stay where you are...not allow her to go off by herself. Instead of chasing her, she would benefit from learning to stay where other people are for socialization-I don't know how she is at school or how old she is, but learning to stay with other people in a space is an important skill. I would set up an activity for her and let her try different things over time to see what she likes(you would have to sit with her and guide her through it). I would try: playdoh sets where she can learn to make something-playdoh hair grow or fake food(of course you would have to keep her from eating it). Maybe duplos (teach her to build). Shaving cream to fingerpaint on a tabletop is often fun.

She needs some play skills to replace the negative behaviors, and she also needs to stay with the family so you don't end up just chasing her around-it's exhausting for you and doesn't teach her anything for her to run all over and get into things. I know this is really hard because I babysit a child like this(his big thing is eating all kinds of things so you have to watch him constantly-he will eat dangerous substances and is a houdini at getting out).

I would explain it to her, and then just keep her in the area(s) you want her to be in and have things for her to do. If she tries to run out, just keep returning her to the room.

It sounds like you really need someone to help so you can trade off monitoring her. It is exhausting to do that yourself. Is there a sympathetic teenage girl in your area you could hire for a couple hours a day to teach her play skills and give yourself a break?

I personally believe in timeouts for some kids or some other kind of consequence-if she makes a mess, I would have her clean it up, and the area around it(overcorrection). That did a lot to change some of my own child's habits.

You will have to be really consistent in whatever you decide to do-and I wouldn't completely rule out meds. Sometimes OCD can be lessened on one drug when not on another.

Good luck,

Sally

January 5, 2004

Yep, setting up the environment is good. We do this somewhat, but probably not enough. However, I often wonder what happens when she is in a different environment or away from me?...Not everyone knows what to look for as an antecedent or has their homes set up for her. I would like to include her in more of her community...even visiting her friends at their homes, but it is so difficult!

I do think you have a major piece though...she needs to feel as if she is in control...

Thanks for your input!

Bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

Here's my theory, now, I'm not saying this will not be hard or that this will be supported by our group LOL, but it works with CB who is a very busy person too. I raised two average kids with this and so what else would I do but apply this to an undiagnosed autistic ( at the time ) The answer is YES ! Yes you may touch the ________, Granny supervises the touching , playing with. Medicine bottles are emptied and washed, by a bottle of cheap dish soap leave on counter for squeezing into sink (CB's Favorite thing at the time ) Toilet flushing..play rocket ship.... the point being take the attention getting no out of the action. He works all the DVD,VCR,computer, camcorder, with adult like function now (he's 6 ) I don't have too many areas in the house that need my total supervision. The front yard fence we are working on. You want to go get that toy car....let granny help you, the fall from the fence will hurt ! Pretty soon... they get uninterested, because they CAN. CB's Grannyps. Buy a huge pilates ball....its working like a dream for pressure and aggression, under inflate slightly. He bounces , uses it as a chair ,does Pilates (LOL )ie." His exercises" If its kicked hard doesnt cause any damage. And they are cheaper than therapy balls.

January 5, 2004

Residential placement has not evaded my mind. I often wonder if I were not here how quickly my husband would have to place Tammy (12 autistic) in a home. There was a time this past month that my husband said that when she turns 18, it will be her or him. When we have bad days, it really is tough, especially without family support. My older daughters were homeschooled for several years, and while they worked here at home, were also excellent in helping out with Tammy, and helping to teach her. My middle daughter was in gymnastics, and taught Tammy to walk a balance beam, ride a 2 wheeler, and skate. We had a pretty good situation going until they both started attending college classes. Now they are both pretty much out of the home. My 19 yo has resentment about her little sis. My older one has taken the initiative to be hired by a respite agency, taken child development classes, and is our official "respite" sitter on our weekly "date nite". My 19 yo is angry. I think she feels that I don't have time for her anymore, and won't take the time to "set an appointment" with me. (sad that I have to set up an appointment just to be able to talk...but true, since Tammy won't sit quietly if others are talking). My 19 yo has Rolandic Epilepsy, and had a seizure at the age of 15. She was put on meds and didn't have another one until they messed up and gave her the generic type. She seized again during the summer, right before school started. She missed the entire second week of school, and was dropped form some of her classes. Her Dr. put her on new meds, and she ended up dropping out of college this last semester, (after 2 1/2 years...beginning in her junior year of highschool), and decided to work. She got a seasonal job at the mall...8 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. Any time that she has free, she spends with her boyfriend (who she met 4 years ago at a marshal arts studio). He's 32. Sometimes you just have to wash your hands, and hope that things will turn out. I think she just needs to figure out what she wants, and I wish I had done therapy with her as a family when we had the chance. Now that she is over 18, I can't force the issue...but have mentioned it. She is not interested. Her boyfriend told me he plans to propose to her soon. I hope she knows what she wants. Wish I could build more support around her...

Bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

hi there

you have descibed my 13 year old boy almost to a 'T'. he was home from 6 month residential. (one month to go) and has not changed one iota. our day is filled with running after brady unless he gets into TV (choice of activity) or he presevers in an activity. running to the sink and dumping detergent. fridgerator and tries to get his own apple juice which ends up all over the floor. flushing stuff down the toilet or playing in it. spraying cleaning supplies, anti-perspirant all over everything. grabbing food off peoples plates at the table. stabbing his fork into my hand. destroying his new toys santa got him. grabbing toys/books out of others hands and then running off. getting angry and mean at the drop of a hat. he has this in your face behavior constantly. wants attention all the time. it is sooooo exhausting, but you know that. we have tried so many meds that have either back fired and caused the opposite effect or the side effects were so bad we could not wait for a theraputic effect. does that sound familiar?

he is at residential which he hates badly for 6 months. they say he has improved at school and they will send him home in feb. all well and good. but home life is still the same. it was our school district that desided after so many violent incidents to pay for this and give it a try. if he comes home and the same starts up at school again, don't know what we will do then. our hands i feel like are bound.

i love our son more then anything. but the peace this house has seen since he has been at residential is like a breath of fresh air. our 8 year old daughter has needed it. she is a victim in all of this. how she has escaped serious injury is beyond me. by the grace of God.

well just letting you know that you are not alone. we love the children but our emotional and physical bodies tire out. normal i would say.

please continue to post and tell us more.

Hugs - Christiane Mom to:

ph (24) add, bi-polar - serving our country , stationed in Germany.Brady (13) pdd-nos, adhd, Bi-Polar,very aggressive. residing for 6 months at a treatment centerLibby (8) adhd. now a 3rd grader. wanna be teen. YIKES.

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January 5, 2004

Ok, I haven't heard about BVA, FGF/HGF, or transfer factor, but have done the test for yeast...and casein gluten free diet. Can you tell me about these other things you have mentioned? My dad has a "chi machine" that he wanted us to try too. Ever heard of one? We've also tried music therapy, OT, speech therapy, and recently tried to get a companion dog. The training was too long and strenuous and we were asked to leave because Tammy couldn't handle it. I think a dog would be good for her still, and may have one in the not-too-distant future.

I think what I'm going to do next is try to get a group of professionals to help me figure out a plan. Maybe if I set up something like an IEP meeting through our "Regional Center", and get a few heads together, someone could come up with something? Necessity is the mother of invention...and we do need to find some solutions.

Bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

wow everyone's stories sound so familiar. There must be something we can all do. I had some success with VBA and FGF/HGF but it's still not over. He's been acting up a lot lately we narrowed part of it down to transfer factor and I'm going to test for yeast. I was also looking at ADAM Technology but am worried it's a scam.

January 5, 2004

Well, we started going to one nearby. I don't think much of him, but like his nutritionist...she is the one that really knows stuff. I guess I'm not great on all the acronyms. What do the letters stand for?

bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

Have you been to a DAN Doctor?

In a message dated 1/5/2004 2:19:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, bjartworks@... writes:

Ok, I haven't heard about BVA, FGF/HGF, or transfer factor, but have done the test for yeast...and casein gluten free diet. Can you tell me about these other things you have mentioned? My dad has a "chi machine" that he wanted us to try too. Ever heard of one? We've also tried music therapy, OT, speech therapy, and recently tried to get a companion dog. The training was too long and strenuous and we were asked to leave because Tammy couldn't handle it. I think a dog would be good for her still, and may have one in the not-too-distant future.

I think what I'm going to do next is try to get a group of professionals to help me figure out a plan. Maybe if I set up something like an IEP meeting through our "Regional Center", and get a few heads together, someone could come up with something? Necessity is the mother of invention...and we do need to find some solutions.

Bj

January 5, 2004

Hi BJ,

it sounds like you have done quite a lot! That is great that she likes art and you are trying to channel that into skills. I didn't know her age or much about her, so I just offered some general suggestions. I hope you can get more help than you have been getting. Take care, Sally

January 6, 2004

Hi Sally,

You seem pretty knowledgeable about behavior, and have great suggestions! I appreciate them! Is your child older? a teen? I'd love to hear about him/her...what things have you learned over the years that work? What things didn't?

Thanks,

Bj

Re: complusive/impulsive behaviors/self control

Hi BJ,

it sounds like you have done quite a lot! That is great that she likes art and you are trying to channel that into skills. I didn't know her age or much about her, so I just offered some general suggestions. I hope you can get more help than you have been getting. Take care, Sally

January 6, 2004

bj, i hear you loud and clear. we have a 25 year old son who had numerous problems in the past. he was very angry and resentful over his brother. dropped out of school, did drugs, had 2 children by women who had even more problems. he then joined the army and met a girl from spain. he is now married and has a little trouble being as sympathetic and respectful as he could be with his wife. bonding is also a problem. as a child he was diagnosed as add and bi-polar. no meds. we are hoping for the best for him and his wife. he has returned from iraq safely and we are so thankful and proud for that. he is now stationed in Ft. Kentucky.

our youngest child is a girl. she is 8 years old. very much ADHD. immature and just a different kid. i take her as she comes. she is a challenge as well, has trouble in school with grades and peers to a certain degree. nothing like brady. she is strong willed and very hyper/impulsive. normal IQ and language is ok.

well that is our family in a nutshell. just talked to residential today since brady returned yesterday. that was a bad scene. he was sooooo upset. they said basically why didn't you return him after he hurt libby the first time . well for one we live 4 hours away from the home and besides.......we wanted him with us over the holidays. he is a special child. loves us so much, yet he is so inapropriate with people and things. your daughters antics sound like things brady will do. the playdough and the sidewalk chalk. diddo..........she must be a female version of brady. lol

brady is coming home next month and i am half scared. and sad that things are not better. is your girl on meds?

well better scoot. have a great tuesday.

until later:

Hugs - Christiane Mom to:

ph (24) add, bi-polar - serving our country , stationed in Germany.Brady (13) pdd-nos, adhd, Bi-Polar,very aggressive. residing for 6 months at a treatment centerLibby (8) adhd. now a 3rd grader. wanna be teen. YIKES.

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